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Topic: Generalized hate
42BlackBBW Joined Mon 09/12/11 Posts: 3243	Sat 01/14/12 10:42 AM
We can choose love and forgiveness over hate and fear anytime we want it.... if we want it enough. It's really not that hard. How nice would it be if love & hate of others were by our choice!But it don't happen.... My question is why do people hate a particular class,community, nation,race,religion,continent? How can they hate in so generalized way,that too up to the extent to kill some innocents? Generalized hatred is mere Ignorance. The inability to understand something or someone, outside you're small little world!! I agree with this...and attract people with a propensity for violence - I was thinking in terms of some of the race hate groups.

Grim14u Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 390	Sat 01/14/12 10:44 AM
and sad but true......soooo much of it is ... Learned behavior..... Some folks have no ability to.... Think for themselves!!

prashant01 Joined Wed 05/06/09 Posts: 14148	Sat 01/14/12 10:48 AM
We can choose love and forgiveness over hate and fear anytime we want it.... if we want it enough. It's really not that hard. How nice would it be if love & hate of others were by our choice!But it don't happen.... My question is why do people hate a particular class,community, nation,race,religion,continent? How can they hate in so generalized way,that too up to the extent to kill some innocents? I think it stems from fear,, fear of what might happen mostly people see all kinds of negative images and events associated with one group or person, they begin to fear that group or person will do those things to them, and they develop hate Well,it's natural & considerable in their interest if the group they are hating is really engaged in some negative activity, but it is really sad & shameful that the hate develops due to jealousy & fear ( like loss of employment etc.) arising out of positive activities like creative work,hard work,talent at work places etc.

Ladylid2012 Joined Sun 07/05/09 Posts: 42269	Sat 01/14/12 10:48 AM
We can choose love and forgiveness over hate and fear anytime we want it.... if we want it enough. It's really not that hard. How nice would it be if love & hate of others were by our choice!But it don't happen.... My question is why do people hate a particular class,community, nation,race,religion,continent? How can they hate in so generalized way,that too up to the extent to kill some innocents? "be the change you wish to see".... People are so disconnected from who they really are. It is impossible to want to hurt another when we understand we are all one.

42BlackBBW Joined Mon 09/12/11 Posts: 3243	Sat 01/14/12 10:49 AM
and sad but true......soooo much of it is ... Learned behavior..... Some folks have no ability to.... Think for themselves!! Some people don't want to (think for themselves)...plausible deniability makes its easier to blame others - their leaders - than to accept responsibility for their actions!

Bravalady Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 1034	Sat 01/14/12 01:40 PM
We can choose love and forgiveness over hate and fear anytime we want it.... if we want it enough. It's really not that hard. How nice would it be if love & hate of others were by our choice!But it don't happen.... My question is why do people hate a particular class,community, nation,race,religion,continent? How can they hate in so generalized way,that too up to the extent to kill some innocents? I truly believe that many people feel threatened when others have different opinions and different lifestyles, because it points out that their own way is not the ONLY way. And I think subconsciously these people feel insecure about their own beliefs. A truly confident person doesn't feel the need to lash out at those with different politics or different skin color or different religion, because they trust themselves. They know that even if they turn out to be wrong, they'll still be able to function in the world. It's easier to define yourself negatively, separating yourself from everyone else. In fact, infants HAVE to do this in order to achieve their own identity. It takes a moral leap to accept that we are all very much alike, even if we have surface differences. It helps a lot if you've been taught this attitude (which is really the Golden Rule) by your parents, but most people who've heard of the Golden Rule don't practice it. It's hard, and the rewards are not necessarily immediate. That's just my own personal psychological analysis of humanity. It might be wrong. I'm not a shrink, but I do think about these things.

prashant01 Joined Wed 05/06/09 Posts: 14148	Sat 01/14/12 11:00 PM
I will like to know some views over this Well,it's natural & considerable in their interest if the group they are hating is really engaged in some negative activity, but how about the hate if develops due to jealousy & fear ( like loss of employment etc.) arising out of positive activities like creative work,hard work,talent at work places etc.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 01/15/12 12:22 AM Edited by msharmony on Sun 01/15/12 12:22 AM
I will like to know some views over this Well,it's natural & considerable in their interest if the group they are hating is really engaged in some negative activity, but how about the hate if develops due to jealousy & fear ( like loss of employment etc.) arising out of positive activities like creative work,hard work,talent at work places etc. I dont know how natural it is to hate people for being involved in negative things,,,...????

prashant01 Joined Wed 05/06/09 Posts: 14148	Sun 01/15/12 08:56 AM Edited by prashant01 on Sun 01/15/12 09:08 AM
I will like to know some views over this Well,it's natural & considerable in their interest if the group they are hating is really engaged in some negative activity, but how about the hate if develops due to jealousy & fear ( like loss of employment etc.) arising out of positive activities like creative work,hard work,talent at work places etc. I dont know how natural it is to hate people for being involved in negative things,,,...???? It's natural & as societies advanced it's cultural too. I can illustrate with examples too,but it's not my question. I'm eager to know views over my concern but how about the hate if develops due to jealousy & fear ( like loss of employment etc.) arising out of positive activities like creative work,hard work,talent at work places etc.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 01/15/12 09:03 AM Edited by msharmony on Sun 01/15/12 09:03 AM
hate the sin and not the sinner seperate the issue from the person , I dont know if these are learned or natural or whether hate is to be honest,,but perhaps its why hate is such a hard emotion for me to grasp I think jealousy is nasty and so is fear, and its even sadder if it turns into hate,,but I think that its also sometimes not as simple as it looks and that there may be other reasons someone develops hatred of an individual who is working hard or performing 'positive' activities thats whats dynamic about hate and love, VERY few people engage only in positive activities,, but sometimes people choose to define others by their negative attributes and activities to the exclusion of ANYTHING positive and other times people choose to define others by the positive attributes and activities to the EXCLUSION of ANYTHING negative but most the time, people just dont know what they are talking about and insist on judging (and hating) STRANGERS they know little about in reality

Grim14u Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 390	Sun 01/15/12 09:09 AM
hate the sin and not the sinner seperate the issue from the person , I dont know if these are learned or natural or whether hate is to be honest,,but perhaps its why hate is such a hard emotion for me to grasp I think jealousy is nasty and so is fear, and its even sadder if it turns into hate,,but I think that its also sometimes not as simple as it looks and that there may be other reasons someone develops hatred of an individual who is working hard or performing 'positive' activities thats whats dynamic about hate and love, VERY few people engage only in positive activities,, but sometimes people choose to define others by their negative attributes and activities to the exclusion of ANYTHING positive and other times people choose to define others by the positive attributes and activities to the EXCLUSION of ANYTHING negative but most the time, people just dont know what they are talking about and insist on judging (and hating) STRANGERS they know little about in reality You Hit the nail on the Head.......Hate the sin. We choose to hate....just as we choose to love. If we have a choice....we should choose to hate the sin....not the sinner. We also choose to Forgive easily......Or Not! I for one believe....when we choose Not....we become no better than....They!!!! JMO

Ladylid2012 Joined Sun 07/05/09 Posts: 42269	Sun 01/15/12 09:12 AM
YOU don't get to pick other people's 'sins' it's very personal. 'Love the sinner hate the sin' is judging others... we can't love while were judging.

prashant01 Joined Wed 05/06/09 Posts: 14148	Sun 01/15/12 09:15 AM
Love the sinner? U loved Osama?? I think it's easy to say that but practically impossible to love those sinner.

Grim14u Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 390	Sun 01/15/12 09:16 AM
I think Judgement only takes place when the "judge" forgets that....They too are .....Human. If we can stay within ourselves.....remember we are human also... we see a little more clearly. And Hopefully Forgive quickly. Hatred is a natural emotion I choose to avoid. I believe in acceptance and Forgiveness. I prefer NOT to carry anything around in me that is negitive.

Ladylid2012 Joined Sun 07/05/09 Posts: 42269	Sun 01/15/12 09:18 AM
Love the sinner? U loved Osama?? I think it's easy to say that but practically impossible to love those sinner. Well maybe that's why WE should NOT judge others and make our own decisions what a sin is or not! It is as easy to live as to say...for me. I won't judge what YOUR sins are if you don't judge mine! And actually, I have NO problem with osama.....I believe he was a political scapegoat anyway.

prashant01 Joined Wed 05/06/09 Posts: 14148	Sun 01/15/12 09:21 AM
I think Judgement only takes place when the "judge" forgets that....They too are .....Human. If we can stay within ourselves.....remember we are human also... we see a little more clearly. And Hopefully Forgive quickly. Hatred is a natural emotion I choose to avoid. I believe in acceptance and Forgiveness. I prefer NOT to carry anything around in me that is negitive. That's right. Me too think,negative emotions like hate acquires too much mental space for long time.If I hate something then it is just hating.

prashant01 Joined Wed 05/06/09 Posts: 14148	Sun 01/15/12 09:25 AM
And actually, I have NO problem with osama.....I believe he was a political scapegoat anyway. We were not discussing about problem. It was about loving sinner. Won't it be an insult of Love to love those who are not worth? They are not even worth of compassion.

Ladylid2012 Joined Sun 07/05/09 Posts: 42269	Sun 01/15/12 09:30 AM
And actually, I have NO problem with osama.....I believe he was a political scapegoat anyway. We were not discussing about problem. It was about loving sinner. Won't it be an insult of Love to love those who are not worth? They are not even worth of compassion. You bought Osama up, not me. Maybe you feel some are not worthy of love...i believe love is all we have. Love for another is never wasted. It is the ONLY thing that can change fear and hate.... When we decide who is worthy of love and who is not, would be be playing god then? I'm not a religious person..however, my definition of 'god' would be love.

singmesweet Joined Mon 07/28/08 Posts: 26661	Sun 01/15/12 09:34 AM
No Generalizing for me........ I'm an Equal Opportunity Hater!!!!!! Based on performance.....Nothing more!!!!! obviously I cannot speak for everyone but in general we do not invite the haters here Maybe you did not fully understand my statement!! I will be honest with you. I am not all that interested in understanding it - hating equally is still hating and unwelcome Hate is as common an emotion as Love.....we all hate....some just refuse to admit it. The wise know.....it's not always the person.....but what motivation. Example: We elect a President who is human. He has something in his past (as we all do) that we might not like if we knew about it. But He has some really good Idea's about change. When that change doesn't take place, should we hate him? or hate the reasons why His changes don't happen. I for one....understand that there will be things I won't like, even possibly Hate in life........ I just have enough wisdom to base it on performance, rather than the person!! I don't waste much energy hating people/things. Does that mean I never hate anything? No, but most of the time it's just not even worth the energy.

prashant01 Joined Wed 05/06/09 Posts: 14148	Sun 01/15/12 09:45 AM
And actually, I have NO problem with osama.....I believe he was a political scapegoat anyway. We were not discussing about problem. It was about loving sinner. Won't it be an insult of Love to love those who are not worth? They are not even worth of compassion. You bought Osama up, not me. Maybe you feel some are not worthy of love...i believe love is all we have. Love for another is never wasted. It is the ONLY thing that can change fear and hate.... When we decide who is worthy of love and who is not, would be be playing god then? I'm not a religious person..however, my definition of 'god' would be love. U said 'Love sinner',hence as an extreme example I brought him up & as I can see,even thinking of loving him is impossible for u,it's quite obvious. I think u r not differentiating in love & compassion.