Topic: Where in the Genesis is Jesus - part 3
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Mon 01/16/12 08:15 PM



Cowboy...this is why you are a wolf in

sheepclothing...


that would make a pretty cool Halloween costume

we should have a Mingle2 Halloween party in which everyone dress up like a biblical character


lol that would be pretty neat. Don't know if I would have the guts to do it or even if it would be right, but no joke because of my long hair many people through out my life has told me I remind them of Jesus. By no means am I saying I'm as great or even close to as great as Jesus.


Dude are you crazy? ..do you know how many people in this forum want the opportunity to nail you to the cross for real...if you come to the party dress like Jesus you're be making the same crazy decisions that the one in the bible made


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Mon 01/16/12 08:19 PM




Cowboy...this is why you are a wolf in

sheepclothing...


that would make a pretty cool Halloween costume

we should have a Mingle2 Halloween party in which everyone dress up like a biblical character


lol that would be pretty neat. Don't know if I would have the guts to do it or even if it would be right, but no joke because of my long hair many people through out my life has told me I remind them of Jesus. By no means am I saying I'm as great or even close to as great as Jesus.


Dude are you crazy? ..do you know how many people in this forum want the opportunity to nail you to the cross for real...if you come to the party dress like Jesus you're be making the same crazy decisions that the one in the bible made




lol would never go anywhere dressed as Jesus.

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Mon 01/16/12 08:19 PM





Adam was not placed there to till no garden.


I know this may come to a shock to you...but according to the bible... God needed a man to tend the garden that he created

perhaps to grow and sell fresh vegetables to the Elohim


Place give the verse(s) that say they were there to tend the Garden. Please teach us all Funches.


ok no problem..but I have to say that it's scary that you claim to be a Christian and don't know the story of Adam adn Eve


Genesis 2:15
The LORD God placed the man in the Garden of Eden to tend and watch over it.


I wasn't a big fan of teaching religion in public school...but jeez how else are you guys going to learn what you believe in


All I see is empty words in your post.

Genesis 2:15
15And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.


God needed a man to tend the garden that he created


The above verse shows differently then your vein words. God gave the Garden to Man, he was not there to just till it and work on it. He was there to make the Garden his home.


Cowboy didn't you once believe that the holy spirit and the holy ghost was two different entities simple because of the wording in the bible but yet recently I taught you that they were the same entity

well "tend" and "dress up" means the same thing...or do you believe that Adam place dresses on the trees in the garden

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Mon 01/16/12 08:20 PM





Cowboy...this is why you are a wolf in

sheepclothing...


that would make a pretty cool Halloween costume

we should have a Mingle2 Halloween party in which everyone dress up like a biblical character


lol that would be pretty neat. Don't know if I would have the guts to do it or even if it would be right, but no joke because of my long hair many people through out my life has told me I remind them of Jesus. By no means am I saying I'm as great or even close to as great as Jesus.


Dude are you crazy? ..do you know how many people in this forum want the opportunity to nail you to the cross for real...if you come to the party dress like Jesus you're be making the same crazy decisions that the one in the bible made




lol would never go anywhere dressed as Jesus.


Not out of fear, not out of being ashamed. Just I am not worthy to be as such.

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Mon 01/16/12 08:24 PM






Adam was not placed there to till no garden.


I know this may come to a shock to you...but according to the bible... God needed a man to tend the garden that he created

perhaps to grow and sell fresh vegetables to the Elohim


Place give the verse(s) that say they were there to tend the Garden. Please teach us all Funches.


ok no problem..but I have to say that it's scary that you claim to be a Christian and don't know the story of Adam adn Eve


Genesis 2:15
The LORD God placed the man in the Garden of Eden to tend and watch over it.


I wasn't a big fan of teaching religion in public school...but jeez how else are you guys going to learn what you believe in


All I see is empty words in your post.

Genesis 2:15
15And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.


God needed a man to tend the garden that he created


The above verse shows differently then your vein words. God gave the Garden to Man, he was not there to just till it and work on it. He was there to make the Garden his home.


Cowboy didn't you once believe that the holy spirit and the holy ghost was two different entities simple because of the wording in the bible but yet recently I taught you that they were the same entity

well "tend" and "dress up" means the same thing...or do you believe that Adam place dresses on the trees in the garden


Tending and "dress up" are not the same. Gardeners "tend" their gardens. Dressing something up would be more so making it home, making it the way you want it. In this specific area, would have some gardening yes. Planting flowers, plants, and other shrubs where Adam wanted them placed in his home. Making shelter where he wished out of what he wished to use, ect.

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Mon 01/16/12 08:26 PM

Does not matter if Eve was there or not when the law was given, fact still remains that she knew. I'd like to see you use this in Court for a speeding ticket. "Well I was not there when the law of not speeding was given" Would be your defense. Again, does not matter if she was there or not when the law was given, the below verses shows clearly that she knew not to eat of the fruit.


Cowboy you know God's Laws and Jesus's teachings but yet you have admitted to sinning....and nothing happened to you

but if God floated down and gave you a direct command...you would be punish for sure if you do not follow it

when God told Adam not to eat from the tree it was not a law it was a direct command ...God did not give a direct command to Eve...

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Mon 01/16/12 08:30 PM


Does not matter if Eve was there or not when the law was given, fact still remains that she knew. I'd like to see you use this in Court for a speeding ticket. "Well I was not there when the law of not speeding was given" Would be your defense. Again, does not matter if she was there or not when the law was given, the below verses shows clearly that she knew not to eat of the fruit.


Cowboy you know God's Laws and Jesus's teachings but yet you have admitted to sinning....and nothing happened to you

but if God floated down and gave you a direct command...you would be punish for sure if you do not follow it

when God told Adam not to eat from the tree it was not a law it was a direct command ...God did not give a direct command to Eve...


Yes I have sinned and no nothing happened to me, because that's not how the covenant we are under now does things. In the covenant we have now, there is ONE judgement, one punishment. In the covenant before the one we are currently under, people were judged and punished for their sins then and there.

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Mon 01/16/12 08:30 PM






Cowboy...this is why you are a wolf in

sheepclothing...


that would make a pretty cool Halloween costume

we should have a Mingle2 Halloween party in which everyone dress up like a biblical character


lol that would be pretty neat. Don't know if I would have the guts to do it or even if it would be right, but no joke because of my long hair many people through out my life has told me I remind them of Jesus. By no means am I saying I'm as great or even close to as great as Jesus.


Dude are you crazy? ..do you know how many people in this forum want the opportunity to nail you to the cross for real...if you come to the party dress like Jesus you're be making the same crazy decisions that the one in the bible made




lol would never go anywhere dressed as Jesus.


Not out of fear, not out of being ashamed. Just I am not worthy to be as such.


let's face it all the guys in those biblical days had long hair, wore togas and earth shoes before Jesus showed up

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Mon 01/16/12 08:32 PM







Cowboy...this is why you are a wolf in

sheepclothing...


that would make a pretty cool Halloween costume

we should have a Mingle2 Halloween party in which everyone dress up like a biblical character


lol that would be pretty neat. Don't know if I would have the guts to do it or even if it would be right, but no joke because of my long hair many people through out my life has told me I remind them of Jesus. By no means am I saying I'm as great or even close to as great as Jesus.


Dude are you crazy? ..do you know how many people in this forum want the opportunity to nail you to the cross for real...if you come to the party dress like Jesus you're be making the same crazy decisions that the one in the bible made




lol would never go anywhere dressed as Jesus.


Not out of fear, not out of being ashamed. Just I am not worthy to be as such.


let's face it all the guys in those biblical days had long hair, wore togas and earth shoes before Jesus showed up


True, but they were not trying to impersonate anyone eg., dressing up LIKE Jesus. That was just the way people dressed in that day and age.

The two have almost nothing to do with one another, people in those days dressing like Jesus because that is the way people then dressed in comparison to someone in this day and age trying to appear to be Jesus.

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Mon 01/16/12 08:34 PM

Tending and "dress up" are not the same. Gardeners "tend" their gardens. Dressing something up would be more so making it home, making it the way you want it. In this specific area, would have some gardening yes. Planting flowers, plants, and other shrubs where Adam wanted them placed in his home. Making shelter where he wished out of what he wished to use, ect.


you asked for a passage from the bible that stated "tend" the garden and I gave you one...if you are not going to except it....only shows that you have no respect for what's in the bible

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Mon 01/16/12 08:39 PM

Yes I have sinned and no nothing happened to me, because that's not how the covenant we are under now does things. In the covenant we have now, there is ONE judgement, one punishment. In the covenant before the one we are currently under, people were judged and punished for their sins then and there.


you sinned because you don't care...but yet you are so quick to condemn Eve

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Mon 01/16/12 08:41 PM


Tending and "dress up" are not the same. Gardeners "tend" their gardens. Dressing something up would be more so making it home, making it the way you want it. In this specific area, would have some gardening yes. Planting flowers, plants, and other shrubs where Adam wanted them placed in his home. Making shelter where he wished out of what he wished to use, ect.


you asked for a passage from the bible that stated "tend" the garden and I gave you one...if you are not going to except it....only shows that you have no respect for what's in the bible


But God didn't place Adam in the Garden to "Tend" it. He placed Adam in the Garden to make it his home. To dress it and keep it, dress it says he could do whatever he wished to the altering/caring of the Garden. If he was placed there to "Tend" it, there would have been guidelines, God would have told Adam to do specific things to the Garden. To grow a lawn, or some form of Garden, you already know you need to plant the plants and water them for them to grow, because you have been taught that as you grew up. Adam had no "growing" up in the same sense we do. He was made a man, not a child. So God had to tell him to tend the Garden so it wouldn't wither away, because again Adam did not have any knowledge at all except what God had revealed to him.

Genesis 2:15
15And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.

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Mon 01/16/12 08:43 PM


Yes I have sinned and no nothing happened to me, because that's not how the covenant we are under now does things. In the covenant we have now, there is ONE judgement, one punishment. In the covenant before the one we are currently under, people were judged and punished for their sins then and there.


you sinned because you don't care...but yet you are so quick to condemn Eve


You have no idea why I sinned, but thanks for showing your arrogance :). And quick to judge, for I condemned no one. I said nothing foul of Eve. I've never once said I was better then Eve or any other person, nor have I downed anyone for anything they may have done. What in the world are you talking about Funches? Please try to stay on topic and not attack the person discussing with you with saying things such as "you sinned because you don't care".

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Mon 01/16/12 08:45 PM









Yes he was omniscient before he became flesh. But the time of judgement is not set in stone, it is not set for a specific day. He will return when all prophecies are fulfilled. There is not a time frame set for the fulfillment of the prophecies. Could take hundreds, could take thousands, heck could even take millions of years.


according to the bible one day is like a thousand years and a thousand years is like a day...which is why to an omniscient entity everything would be set in stone, that's why they are omniscient .....

so am I'm to assume that you are unable to provide a passage from the bible to back up what you are saying and/or which states that Jesus in fact does know the time of Judgement Day

if not....make sure you inform the serpent that what he told you about Jesus being omniscient and a God was false



according to the bible one day is like a thousand years and a thousand years is like a day...which is why to an omniscient entity everything would be set in stone, that's why they are omniscient


Please give some verses that support such a statement Funches. I am unaware of any verses that support God saying this or that in a day, a 1000 years, or whatever may be the case to mean anything other then the amount of time he has said. For how are we to know how long, how many, ect if God means something other then what he is saying?

God is giving us the knowledge, how would he be giving us any knowledge if when he says 1 day he means 100 years or something but does not inform us of such?


according to the events in the bible God can't be any older than 6,000 years old which is when his alpha began ...so when it comes to the realm of time he's like a tiny baby God ..


Please do enlighten us with these verses that back your claim. Cause I never seen in my readings where it said "These are the days when the LORD God made the Earth and Heavens in 500 bc. or anything of such. So please do enlighten us where you get this time frame.


time started at Genesis 1:1......it took God six days to create and one day to rest, Christians believe that the Earth is only 6,000 years old, but the biblical stories suggest that it's less, so to be on the safe side that makes the age of God around 6,000 years and 7 days old, give or take a day or two ...


Time did not start in Genesis 1:1, the creation of Earth and Heaven happened in Genesis 1, but that does not mean time started then. And where do you get this that Christians believe the world is around 6000 years old? What scriptural evidence do they have to support such a statement?


time and Alpha started exactly at Genesis 1:1 simply because nothing supposedly existed not even time.....and at that point in time in Genesis 1:1 the bible becomes a diary as to how old the Earth and God may be ....with the adages "BC and AD" ....

according to this evidence God is no older than 6,000 years and 7 days old


Show me a verse where it says "God" was created, made, and or came into existence in Genesis. Genesis 1:1 says nothing about Alpha starting, or even really time starting. Only gives a summary of the information that was bout to be given in the scriptures about the creation of Heaven, Earth.

Genesis 1

1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.


right....that is the verse when time and the Alpha began ...you keep forgetting that nothing existed...wouldn't that also include "time"

this is why God is around 6,000 years old ...he's just a lad

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Mon 01/16/12 08:48 PM



Tending and "dress up" are not the same. Gardeners "tend" their gardens. Dressing something up would be more so making it home, making it the way you want it. In this specific area, would have some gardening yes. Planting flowers, plants, and other shrubs where Adam wanted them placed in his home. Making shelter where he wished out of what he wished to use, ect.


you asked for a passage from the bible that stated "tend" the garden and I gave you one...if you are not going to except it....only shows that you have no respect for what's in the bible


But God didn't place Adam in the Garden to "Tend" it. He placed Adam in the Garden to make it his home. To dress it and keep it, dress it says he could do whatever he wished to the altering/caring of the Garden. If he was placed there to "Tend" it, there would have been guidelines, God would have told Adam to do specific things to the Garden. To grow a lawn, or some form of Garden, you already know you need to plant the plants and water them for them to grow, because you have been taught that as you grew up. Adam had no "growing" up in the same sense we do. He was made a man, not a child. So God had to tell him to tend the Garden so it wouldn't wither away, because again Adam did not have any knowledge at all except what God had revealed to him.

Genesis 2:15
15And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.


nope..I gave you a passage that stated "tend"...all you did was run to another bible which indicate that you believe the words written in each bible have different meanings .....in other words...you have no Faith in the bible

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Mon 01/16/12 08:48 PM










Yes he was omniscient before he became flesh. But the time of judgement is not set in stone, it is not set for a specific day. He will return when all prophecies are fulfilled. There is not a time frame set for the fulfillment of the prophecies. Could take hundreds, could take thousands, heck could even take millions of years.


according to the bible one day is like a thousand years and a thousand years is like a day...which is why to an omniscient entity everything would be set in stone, that's why they are omniscient .....

so am I'm to assume that you are unable to provide a passage from the bible to back up what you are saying and/or which states that Jesus in fact does know the time of Judgement Day

if not....make sure you inform the serpent that what he told you about Jesus being omniscient and a God was false



according to the bible one day is like a thousand years and a thousand years is like a day...which is why to an omniscient entity everything would be set in stone, that's why they are omniscient


Please give some verses that support such a statement Funches. I am unaware of any verses that support God saying this or that in a day, a 1000 years, or whatever may be the case to mean anything other then the amount of time he has said. For how are we to know how long, how many, ect if God means something other then what he is saying?

God is giving us the knowledge, how would he be giving us any knowledge if when he says 1 day he means 100 years or something but does not inform us of such?


according to the events in the bible God can't be any older than 6,000 years old which is when his alpha began ...so when it comes to the realm of time he's like a tiny baby God ..


Please do enlighten us with these verses that back your claim. Cause I never seen in my readings where it said "These are the days when the LORD God made the Earth and Heavens in 500 bc. or anything of such. So please do enlighten us where you get this time frame.


time started at Genesis 1:1......it took God six days to create and one day to rest, Christians believe that the Earth is only 6,000 years old, but the biblical stories suggest that it's less, so to be on the safe side that makes the age of God around 6,000 years and 7 days old, give or take a day or two ...


Time did not start in Genesis 1:1, the creation of Earth and Heaven happened in Genesis 1, but that does not mean time started then. And where do you get this that Christians believe the world is around 6000 years old? What scriptural evidence do they have to support such a statement?


time and Alpha started exactly at Genesis 1:1 simply because nothing supposedly existed not even time.....and at that point in time in Genesis 1:1 the bible becomes a diary as to how old the Earth and God may be ....with the adages "BC and AD" ....

according to this evidence God is no older than 6,000 years and 7 days old


Show me a verse where it says "God" was created, made, and or came into existence in Genesis. Genesis 1:1 says nothing about Alpha starting, or even really time starting. Only gives a summary of the information that was bout to be given in the scriptures about the creation of Heaven, Earth.

Genesis 1

1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.


right....that is the verse when time and the Alpha began ...you keep forgetting that nothing existed...wouldn't that also include "time"

this is why God is around 6,000 years old ...he's just a lad


Where does it say in that verse "nothing" existed? Obviously something existed lol, "In the beginning when "God" created". Does not say when God was created, does not say when time was created.

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Mon 01/16/12 08:54 PM



Yes I have sinned and no nothing happened to me, because that's not how the covenant we are under now does things. In the covenant we have now, there is ONE judgement, one punishment. In the covenant before the one we are currently under, people were judged and punished for their sins then and there.


you sinned because you don't care...but yet you are so quick to condemn Eve


You have no idea why I sinned, but thanks for showing your arrogance :). And quick to judge, for I condemned no one. I said nothing foul of Eve. I've never once said I was better then Eve or any other person, nor have I downed anyone for anything they may have done. What in the world are you talking about Funches? Please try to stay on topic and not attack the person discussing with you with saying things such as "you sinned because you don't care".


so are you trying to say that you can provide a good excuse why it's ok for you to sin ....jeez and you called me arrogant

you keep forgetting that it was sin that got Adam and Eve kicked out of Eden

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Mon 01/16/12 08:54 PM




Tending and "dress up" are not the same. Gardeners "tend" their gardens. Dressing something up would be more so making it home, making it the way you want it. In this specific area, would have some gardening yes. Planting flowers, plants, and other shrubs where Adam wanted them placed in his home. Making shelter where he wished out of what he wished to use, ect.


you asked for a passage from the bible that stated "tend" the garden and I gave you one...if you are not going to except it....only shows that you have no respect for what's in the bible


But God didn't place Adam in the Garden to "Tend" it. He placed Adam in the Garden to make it his home. To dress it and keep it, dress it says he could do whatever he wished to the altering/caring of the Garden. If he was placed there to "Tend" it, there would have been guidelines, God would have told Adam to do specific things to the Garden. To grow a lawn, or some form of Garden, you already know you need to plant the plants and water them for them to grow, because you have been taught that as you grew up. Adam had no "growing" up in the same sense we do. He was made a man, not a child. So God had to tell him to tend the Garden so it wouldn't wither away, because again Adam did not have any knowledge at all except what God had revealed to him.

Genesis 2:15
15And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.


nope..I gave you a passage that stated "tend"...all you did was run to another bible which indicate that you believe the words written in each bible have different meanings .....in other words...you have no Faith in the bible


But nevertheless even with the word "tend". Adam was to make the Garden his home. He wasn't out there in the Garden hoeing God's potatoes, or any work specifically for God. God was merely saying he would have to work for his food eg., tending a garden and that the food wasn't going to be handed to him on a silver platter.

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Mon 01/16/12 08:58 PM




Yes I have sinned and no nothing happened to me, because that's not how the covenant we are under now does things. In the covenant we have now, there is ONE judgement, one punishment. In the covenant before the one we are currently under, people were judged and punished for their sins then and there.


you sinned because you don't care...but yet you are so quick to condemn Eve


You have no idea why I sinned, but thanks for showing your arrogance :). And quick to judge, for I condemned no one. I said nothing foul of Eve. I've never once said I was better then Eve or any other person, nor have I downed anyone for anything they may have done. What in the world are you talking about Funches? Please try to stay on topic and not attack the person discussing with you with saying things such as "you sinned because you don't care".


so are you trying to say that you can provide a good excuse why it's ok for you to sin ....jeez and you called me arrogant

you keep forgetting that it was sin that got Adam and Eve kicked out of Eden


There is no excuse, nothing that justifies my sinful actions, don't know what you're talking about. Again, please try not to attack the one your discussing with.

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Mon 01/16/12 09:02 PM











Yes he was omniscient before he became flesh. But the time of judgement is not set in stone, it is not set for a specific day. He will return when all prophecies are fulfilled. There is not a time frame set for the fulfillment of the prophecies. Could take hundreds, could take thousands, heck could even take millions of years.


according to the bible one day is like a thousand years and a thousand years is like a day...which is why to an omniscient entity everything would be set in stone, that's why they are omniscient .....

so am I'm to assume that you are unable to provide a passage from the bible to back up what you are saying and/or which states that Jesus in fact does know the time of Judgement Day

if not....make sure you inform the serpent that what he told you about Jesus being omniscient and a God was false



according to the bible one day is like a thousand years and a thousand years is like a day...which is why to an omniscient entity everything would be set in stone, that's why they are omniscient


Please give some verses that support such a statement Funches. I am unaware of any verses that support God saying this or that in a day, a 1000 years, or whatever may be the case to mean anything other then the amount of time he has said. For how are we to know how long, how many, ect if God means something other then what he is saying?

God is giving us the knowledge, how would he be giving us any knowledge if when he says 1 day he means 100 years or something but does not inform us of such?


according to the events in the bible God can't be any older than 6,000 years old which is when his alpha began ...so when it comes to the realm of time he's like a tiny baby God ..


Please do enlighten us with these verses that back your claim. Cause I never seen in my readings where it said "These are the days when the LORD God made the Earth and Heavens in 500 bc. or anything of such. So please do enlighten us where you get this time frame.


time started at Genesis 1:1......it took God six days to create and one day to rest, Christians believe that the Earth is only 6,000 years old, but the biblical stories suggest that it's less, so to be on the safe side that makes the age of God around 6,000 years and 7 days old, give or take a day or two ...


Time did not start in Genesis 1:1, the creation of Earth and Heaven happened in Genesis 1, but that does not mean time started then. And where do you get this that Christians believe the world is around 6000 years old? What scriptural evidence do they have to support such a statement?


time and Alpha started exactly at Genesis 1:1 simply because nothing supposedly existed not even time.....and at that point in time in Genesis 1:1 the bible becomes a diary as to how old the Earth and God may be ....with the adages "BC and AD" ....

according to this evidence God is no older than 6,000 years and 7 days old


Show me a verse where it says "God" was created, made, and or came into existence in Genesis. Genesis 1:1 says nothing about Alpha starting, or even really time starting. Only gives a summary of the information that was bout to be given in the scriptures about the creation of Heaven, Earth.

Genesis 1

1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.


right....that is the verse when time and the Alpha began ...you keep forgetting that nothing existed...wouldn't that also include "time"

this is why God is around 6,000 years old ...he's just a lad


Where does it say in that verse "nothing" existed? Obviously something existed lol, "In the beginning when "God" created". Does not say when God was created, does not say when time was created.


the bible reveals the day when the Heavens and the Earth was created ..they were created on the first day ...this is when "time" and God's birthday start