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Topic: Where in the Genesis is Jesus - part 3
CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 01/16/12 06:40 PM
Yes he was omniscient before he became flesh. But the time of judgement is not set in stone, it is not set for a specific day. He will return when all prophecies are fulfilled. There is not a time frame set for the fulfillment of the prophecies. Could take hundreds, could take thousands, heck could even take millions of years. according to the bible one day is like a thousand years and a thousand years is like a day...which is why to an omniscient entity everything would be set in stone, that's why they are omniscient ..... so am I'm to assume that you are unable to provide a passage from the bible to back up what you are saying and/or which states that Jesus in fact does know the time of Judgement Day if not....make sure you inform the serpent that what he told you about Jesus being omniscient and a God was false according to the bible one day is like a thousand years and a thousand years is like a day...which is why to an omniscient entity everything would be set in stone, that's why they are omniscient Please give some verses that support such a statement Funches. I am unaware of any verses that support God saying this or that in a day, a 1000 years, or whatever may be the case to mean anything other then the amount of time he has said. For how are we to know how long, how many, ect if God means something other then what he is saying? God is giving us the knowledge, how would he be giving us any knowledge if when he says 1 day he means 100 years or something but does not inform us of such? according to the events in the bible God can't be any older than 6,000 years old which is when his alpha began ...so when it comes to the realm of time he's like a tiny baby God .. Please do enlighten us with these verses that back your claim. Cause I never seen in my readings where it said "These are the days when the LORD God made the Earth and Heavens in 500 bc. or anything of such. So please do enlighten us where you get this time frame.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 01/16/12 06:45 PM
Jesus didn't know the time of judgement while he was on Earth, this much is true. That is because he humbled himself taking on the form of a servant, separating himself from God temporarily till he returned to Heaven. so Jesus had amnesia? .... Cowboy...so....er...are you trying to prove that Jesus is God or prove that he isn't? by claiming that he has memory lost is a vote leaning towards that he isn't Jesus is God. And I'm not trying to prove anything. You believing Jesus is God has no bearing on my salvation, I do this out of love for you Funches and the other's that read this forum. And no Jesus didn't have "amnesia". God the Father knows the time of judgement, The Father, The Word, and The Holy Spirit are all one God. Jesus left his glory behind and took on the form of a servant eg., separating himself from the Father temporarily, thus not knowing the time of judgement and only the father knowing for at this point and time Jesus was separated temporarily from the Father.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 01/16/12 06:46 PM
Adam was not placed there to till no garden. I know this may come to a shock to you...but according to the bible... God needed a man to tend the garden that he created perhaps to grow and sell fresh vegetables to the Elohim Place give the verse(s) that say they were there to tend the Garden. Please teach us all Funches.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 01/16/12 06:51 PM
Genesis 3:4 And the serpent said to the woman, You shall not surely die: wouldn't the knowledge or the conception of Death fall into the realm of having the knowledge of evil,which Eve supposedly didn't have , so whether she would die or not die if she ate the fruit would not present any effect on her decision since she lacked that knowledge Does not matter if God said she would grow a tail, a third leg, a third arm, or even another toe. Bottom line is God told them not to, doesn't matter the consequence. God only gave a direct command to Adam not to eat from the tree...he did not give this command to Eve Weather God told Eve directly or not, she knew. She disobeyed even knowing what was she not to do. Genesis 3 1Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? 2And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: 3But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die

MorningSong Joined Mon 02/11/08 Posts: 4505	Mon 01/16/12 07:18 PM
Jesus didn't know the time of judgement while he was on Earth, this much is true. That is because he humbled himself taking on the form of a servant, separating himself from God temporarily till he returned to Heaven. so Jesus had amnesia? .... Cowboy...so....er...are you trying to prove that Jesus is God or prove that he isn't? by claiming that he has memory lost is a vote leaning towards that he isn't Jesus is God. And I'm not trying to prove anything. You believing Jesus is God has no bearing on my salvation, I do this out of love for you Funches and the other's that read this forum. And no Jesus didn't have "amnesia". God the Father knows the time of judgement, The Father, The Word, and The Holy Spirit are all one God. Jesus left his glory behind and took on the form of a servant eg., separating himself from the Father temporarily, thus not knowing the time of judgement and only the father knowing for at this point and time Jesus was separated temporarily from the Father. Cowboy...this is why you are a wolf in sheepclothing... right here in your post above , it "SOUNDS" to the world, like you are one of the sheep.......and that you actually do believe JESUS is God, like Christians do....and that you beleive The Father and Son and Holy Spirit are One God, like Christians do. BUT you DON't BELIEVE IT THE SAME WAY AS CHRISTIANS DO !!! AND THAT IS WHERE THE DECEPTION COMES IN!!!!!!! ANT THAT IS WHY YOU ARE A WOLF !!! BECAUSE YOU ONLY BELEIVE THEY ARE GOD ,IN THE SENSE OF BEING SOME KIND OF 'GOVERNMENT"....BUT NOT AS ONE ENTITY !!! AND YOU BELIEVE JESUS IS GOD , BUT NOT ONE ENTITY WiTH GOD THE FATHER....BUT ONLY AS AN ENTIRELY SEPARATE ENTITY FROM GOD THE FATHER ENTIRELY !!!! AND THAT IS EXACTLY HOW A FALSE TEACHER SNEAKS INTO THE FOLD.....A FALSE TEACHER DOES EXACTLY THIS..... BUT IS ONLY A WOLF WHO "PRETENDS" TO BELEIVE AS OTHER SHEEP DO...BUT ALL ALONG, HE KNOWS HE DOES NOT BELEIVE THE SAME WAY AS THE SHEEP DO AT ALL......AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU DO ON HERE.....EVEN NOW, YOU STILL PRETEND TO BE A SHEEP,ONLY BECAUSE YOU WERE CONFRONTED!!! JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO, YOU POSTED THAT YOU DID NOT BEELIEVE THE FATHER JESUS AND THE HOLY SPRIT IS ONE ENTITY AT ALL... AND HERE JUST NOW, YOU ARE TRYINB TO FOOL PEOPLE INTO BELEIVING THAT YOU DO BELEIVE THE FATHER AND SON AND HOLY SPIRIT IS ONE GOD... BUT THE PEOLPE DON'T KNOWE YOU BELIEVE SOMETHING EMTIRELY DIFFERENT FROM THE SHEEP....AND THAT IS HOW YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FOOL OTHERS ON HERE FOR OVER 2 YEARS NOW. BUT I KNOW IN MY HEART THAT GOD WILL NOT LET YOU CONTINUE DECEIVING FOREVER...... GOD WILL EVENTUALLY DEAL WITH YOU. I WEEP...CAUSE AT ONE TIME,I HAD SUCH HIGH HOPES FOR YOU.......NOW I JUST WEEP...AND PRAY .

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 01/16/12 07:29 PM
Jesus didn't know the time of judgement while he was on Earth, this much is true. That is because he humbled himself taking on the form of a servant, separating himself from God temporarily till he returned to Heaven. so Jesus had amnesia? .... Cowboy...so....er...are you trying to prove that Jesus is God or prove that he isn't? by claiming that he has memory lost is a vote leaning towards that he isn't Jesus is God. And I'm not trying to prove anything. You believing Jesus is God has no bearing on my salvation, I do this out of love for you Funches and the other's that read this forum. And no Jesus didn't have "amnesia". God the Father knows the time of judgement, The Father, The Word, and The Holy Spirit are all one God. Jesus left his glory behind and took on the form of a servant eg., separating himself from the Father temporarily, thus not knowing the time of judgement and only the father knowing for at this point and time Jesus was separated temporarily from the Father. Cowboy...this is why you are a wolf in sheepclothing... right here in your post above , it "SOUNDS" to the world, like you are one of the sheep.......and that you actually do believe JESUS is God, like Christians do....and that you beleive The Father and Son and Holy Spirit are One God, like Christians do. BUT you DON't BELIEVE IT THE SAME WAY AS CHRISTIANS DO !!! AND THAT IS WHERE THE DECEPTION COMES IN!!!!!!! ANT THAT IS WHY YOU ARE A WOLF !!! BECAUSE YOU ONLY BELEIVE THEY ARE GOD ,IN THE SENSE OF BEING SOME KIND OF 'GOVERNMENT"....BUT NOT AS ONE ENTITY !!! AND YOU BELIEVE JESUS IS GOD , BUT NOT ONE ENTITY WiTH GOD THE FATHER....BUT ONLY AS AN ENTIRELY SEPARATE ENTITY FROM GOD THE FATHER ENTIRELY !!!! AND THAT IS EXACTLY HOW A FALSE TEACHER SNEAKS INTO THE FOLD.....A FALSE TEACHER DOES EXACTLY THIS..... BUT IS ONLY A WOLF WHO "PRETENDS" TO BELEIVE AS OTHER SHEEP DO...BUT ALL ALONG, HE KNOWS HE DOES NOT BELEIVE THE SAME WAY AS THE SHEEP DO AT ALL......AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU DO ON HERE.....EVEN NOW, YOU STILL PRETEND TO BE A SHEEP,ONLY BECAUSE YOU WERE CONFRONTED!!! JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO, YOU POSTED THAT YOU DID NOT BEELIEVE THE FATHER JESUS AND THE HOLY SPRIT IS ONE ENTITY AT ALL... AND HERE JUST NOW, YOU ARE TRYINB TO FOOL PEOPLE INTO BELEIVING THAT YOU DO BELEIVE THE FATHER AND SON AND HOLY SPIRIT IS ONE GOD... BUT THE PEOLPE DON'T KNOWE YOU BELIEVE SOMETHING EMTIRELY DIFFERENT FROM THE SHEEP....AND THAT IS HOW YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FOOL OTHERS ON HERE FOR OVER 2 YEARS NOW. BUT I KNOW IN MY HEART THAT GOD WILL NOT LET YOU CONTINUE DECEIVING FOREVER...... GOD WILL EVENTUALLY DEAL WITH YOU. I WEEP...CAUSE AT ONE TIME,I HAD SUCH HIGH HOPES FOR YOU.......NOW I JUST WEEP...AND PRAY . OF 'GOVERNMENT"....BUT NOT AS ONE ENTITY !!! If they are one ENTITY, please explain why then while Jesus was on the cross he cried out to his God, his father, why he prayed to his father, why even in Genesis at the very start it totally separates God the Father and the Word. Explain this to me please. Don't give me any other information then what I seek as you usually do. I usually ask questions as such, then you go off with explaining why they are one God. That is not the specific question/conversation in this statement. Answer why it separates the Father and the Word even at the very beginning if they are one entity. If they are one "entity" it would have been so much clearer if it would have just said "God". But no, even in the first chapter, there is "God" and "LORD God". Separating the two very specifically.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 01/16/12 07:30 PM
Yes he was omniscient before he became flesh. But the time of judgement is not set in stone, it is not set for a specific day. He will return when all prophecies are fulfilled. There is not a time frame set for the fulfillment of the prophecies. Could take hundreds, could take thousands, heck could even take millions of years. according to the bible one day is like a thousand years and a thousand years is like a day...which is why to an omniscient entity everything would be set in stone, that's why they are omniscient ..... so am I'm to assume that you are unable to provide a passage from the bible to back up what you are saying and/or which states that Jesus in fact does know the time of Judgement Day if not....make sure you inform the serpent that what he told you about Jesus being omniscient and a God was false according to the bible one day is like a thousand years and a thousand years is like a day...which is why to an omniscient entity everything would be set in stone, that's why they are omniscient Please give some verses that support such a statement Funches. I am unaware of any verses that support God saying this or that in a day, a 1000 years, or whatever may be the case to mean anything other then the amount of time he has said. For how are we to know how long, how many, ect if God means something other then what he is saying? God is giving us the knowledge, how would he be giving us any knowledge if when he says 1 day he means 100 years or something but does not inform us of such? according to the events in the bible God can't be any older than 6,000 years old which is when his alpha began ...so when it comes to the realm of time he's like a tiny baby God .. Please do enlighten us with these verses that back your claim. Cause I never seen in my readings where it said "These are the days when the LORD God made the Earth and Heavens in 500 bc. or anything of such. So please do enlighten us where you get this time frame. time started at Genesis 1:1......it took God six days to create and one day to rest, Christians believe that the Earth is only 6,000 years old, but the biblical stories suggest that it's less, so to be on the safe side that makes the age of God around 6,000 years and 7 days old, give or take a day or two ...

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 01/16/12 07:32 PM
Jesus didn't know the time of judgement while he was on Earth, this much is true. That is because he humbled himself taking on the form of a servant, separating himself from God temporarily till he returned to Heaven. so Jesus had amnesia? .... Cowboy...so....er...are you trying to prove that Jesus is God or prove that he isn't? by claiming that he has memory lost is a vote leaning towards that he isn't Jesus is God. And I'm not trying to prove anything. You believing Jesus is God has no bearing on my salvation, I do this out of love for you Funches and the other's that read this forum. And no Jesus didn't have "amnesia". God the Father knows the time of judgement, The Father, The Word, and The Holy Spirit are all one God. Jesus left his glory behind and took on the form of a servant eg., separating himself from the Father temporarily, thus not knowing the time of judgement and only the father knowing for at this point and time Jesus was separated temporarily from the Father. Cowboy...this is why you are a wolf in sheepclothing... right here in your post above , it "SOUNDS" to the world, like you are one of the sheep.......and that you actually do believe JESUS is God, like Christians do....and that you beleive The Father and Son and Holy Spirit are One God, like Christians do. BUT you DON't BELIEVE IT THE SAME WAY AS CHRISTIANS DO !!! AND THAT IS WHERE THE DECEPTION COMES IN!!!!!!! ANT THAT IS WHY YOU ARE A WOLF !!! BECAUSE YOU ONLY BELEIVE THEY ARE GOD ,IN THE SENSE OF BEING SOME KIND OF 'GOVERNMENT"....BUT NOT AS ONE ENTITY !!! AND YOU BELIEVE JESUS IS GOD , BUT NOT ONE ENTITY WiTH GOD THE FATHER....BUT ONLY AS AN ENTIRELY SEPARATE ENTITY FROM GOD THE FATHER ENTIRELY !!!! AND THAT IS EXACTLY HOW A FALSE TEACHER SNEAKS INTO THE FOLD.....A FALSE TEACHER DOES EXACTLY THIS..... BUT IS ONLY A WOLF WHO "PRETENDS" TO BELEIVE AS OTHER SHEEP DO...BUT ALL ALONG, HE KNOWS HE DOES NOT BELEIVE THE SAME WAY AS THE SHEEP DO AT ALL......AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU DO ON HERE.....EVEN NOW, YOU STILL PRETEND TO BE A SHEEP,ONLY BECAUSE YOU WERE CONFRONTED!!! JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO, YOU POSTED THAT YOU DID NOT BEELIEVE THE FATHER JESUS AND THE HOLY SPRIT IS ONE ENTITY AT ALL... AND HERE JUST NOW, YOU ARE TRYINB TO FOOL PEOPLE INTO BELEIVING THAT YOU DO BELEIVE THE FATHER AND SON AND HOLY SPIRIT IS ONE GOD... BUT THE PEOLPE DON'T KNOWE YOU BELIEVE SOMETHING EMTIRELY DIFFERENT FROM THE SHEEP....AND THAT IS HOW YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FOOL OTHERS ON HERE FOR OVER 2 YEARS NOW. BUT I KNOW IN MY HEART THAT GOD WILL NOT LET YOU CONTINUE DECEIVING FOREVER...... GOD WILL EVENTUALLY DEAL WITH YOU. I WEEP...CAUSE AT ONE TIME,I HAD SUCH HIGH HOPES FOR YOU.......NOW I JUST WEEP...AND PRAY . JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO, YOU POSTED THAT YOU DID NOT BEELIEVE THE FATHER JESUS AND THE HOLY SPRIT IS ONE ENTITY AT ALL... AND HERE JUST NOW, YOU ARE TRYINB TO FOOL PEOPLE INTO BELEIVING THAT YOU DO BELEIVE THE FATHER AND SON AND HOLY SPIRIT IS ONE GOD... BUT THE PEOLPE DON'T KNOWE YOU BELIEVE SOMETHING EMTIRELY They are one God. Again, that does not mean they are one entity, one being. For throughout the ENTIRE bible it separates the three. From Genesis to revelations, it separates the two, from God, LORD God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 01/16/12 07:34 PM
Jesus didn't know the time of judgement while he was on Earth, this much is true. That is because he humbled himself taking on the form of a servant, separating himself from God temporarily till he returned to Heaven. so Jesus had amnesia? .... Cowboy...so....er...are you trying to prove that Jesus is God or prove that he isn't? by claiming that he has memory lost is a vote leaning towards that he isn't Jesus is God. And I'm not trying to prove anything. You believing Jesus is God has no bearing on my salvation, I do this out of love for you Funches and the other's that read this forum. And no Jesus didn't have "amnesia". God the Father knows the time of judgement, The Father, The Word, and The Holy Spirit are all one God. Jesus left his glory behind and took on the form of a servant eg., separating himself from the Father temporarily, thus not knowing the time of judgement and only the father knowing for at this point and time Jesus was separated temporarily from the Father. God the Father knows but according to the bible Jesus has no clue when the time of Judgement day is....he can't make a move or even return until God gives him permission..he is powerless to do so ...which only shows how he is simply a puppet of the father

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 01/16/12 07:34 PM
Yes he was omniscient before he became flesh. But the time of judgement is not set in stone, it is not set for a specific day. He will return when all prophecies are fulfilled. There is not a time frame set for the fulfillment of the prophecies. Could take hundreds, could take thousands, heck could even take millions of years. according to the bible one day is like a thousand years and a thousand years is like a day...which is why to an omniscient entity everything would be set in stone, that's why they are omniscient ..... so am I'm to assume that you are unable to provide a passage from the bible to back up what you are saying and/or which states that Jesus in fact does know the time of Judgement Day if not....make sure you inform the serpent that what he told you about Jesus being omniscient and a God was false according to the bible one day is like a thousand years and a thousand years is like a day...which is why to an omniscient entity everything would be set in stone, that's why they are omniscient Please give some verses that support such a statement Funches. I am unaware of any verses that support God saying this or that in a day, a 1000 years, or whatever may be the case to mean anything other then the amount of time he has said. For how are we to know how long, how many, ect if God means something other then what he is saying? God is giving us the knowledge, how would he be giving us any knowledge if when he says 1 day he means 100 years or something but does not inform us of such? according to the events in the bible God can't be any older than 6,000 years old which is when his alpha began ...so when it comes to the realm of time he's like a tiny baby God .. Please do enlighten us with these verses that back your claim. Cause I never seen in my readings where it said "These are the days when the LORD God made the Earth and Heavens in 500 bc. or anything of such. So please do enlighten us where you get this time frame. time started at Genesis 1:1......it took God six days to create and one day to rest, Christians believe that the Earth is only 6,000 years old, but the biblical stories suggest that it's less, so to be on the safe side that makes the age of God around 6,000 years and 7 days old, give or take a day or two ... Time did not start in Genesis 1:1, the creation of Earth and Heaven happened in Genesis 1, but that does not mean time started then. And where do you get this that Christians believe the world is around 6000 years old? What scriptural evidence do they have to support such a statement?

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 01/16/12 07:44 PM
Cowboy...this is why you are a wolf in sheepclothing... that would make a pretty cool Halloween costume we should have a Mingle2 Halloween party in which everyone dress up like a biblical character

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 01/16/12 07:47 PM
Cowboy...this is why you are a wolf in sheepclothing... that would make a pretty cool Halloween costume we should have a Mingle2 Halloween party in which everyone dress up like a biblical character lol that would be pretty neat. Don't know if I would have the guts to do it or even if it would be right, but no joke because of my long hair many people through out my life has told me I remind them of Jesus. By no means am I saying I'm as great or even close to as great as Jesus.

MorningSong Joined Mon 02/11/08 Posts: 4505	Mon 01/16/12 07:47 PM Edited by MorningSong on Mon 01/16/12 07:50 PM
Jesus didn't know the time of judgement while he was on Earth, this much is true. That is because he humbled himself taking on the form of a servant, separating himself from God temporarily till he returned to Heaven. so Jesus had amnesia? .... Cowboy...so....er...are you trying to prove that Jesus is God or prove that he isn't? by claiming that he has memory lost is a vote leaning towards that he isn't Jesus is God. And I'm not trying to prove anything. You believing Jesus is God has no bearing on my salvation, I do this out of love for you Funches and the other's that read this forum. And no Jesus didn't have "amnesia". God the Father knows the time of judgement, The Father, The Word, and The Holy Spirit are all one God. Jesus left his glory behind and took on the form of a servant eg., separating himself from the Father temporarily, thus not knowing the time of judgement and only the father knowing for at this point and time Jesus was separated temporarily from the Father. Cowboy...this is why you are a wolf in sheepclothing... right here in your post above , it "SOUNDS" to the world, like you are one of the sheep.......and that you actually do believe JESUS is God, like Christians do....and that you beleive The Father and Son and Holy Spirit are One God, like Christians do. BUT you DON't BELIEVE IT THE SAME WAY AS CHRISTIANS DO !!! AND THAT IS WHERE THE DECEPTION COMES IN!!!!!!! ANT THAT IS WHY YOU ARE A WOLF !!! BECAUSE YOU ONLY BELEIVE THEY ARE GOD ,IN THE SENSE OF BEING SOME KIND OF 'GOVERNMENT"....BUT NOT AS ONE ENTITY !!! AND YOU BELIEVE JESUS IS GOD , BUT NOT ONE ENTITY WiTH GOD THE FATHER....BUT ONLY AS AN ENTIRELY SEPARATE ENTITY FROM GOD THE FATHER ENTIRELY !!!! AND THAT IS EXACTLY HOW A FALSE TEACHER SNEAKS INTO THE FOLD.....A FALSE TEACHER DOES EXACTLY THIS..... BUT IS ONLY A WOLF WHO "PRETENDS" TO BELEIVE AS OTHER SHEEP DO...BUT ALL ALONG, HE KNOWS HE DOES NOT BELEIVE THE SAME WAY AS THE SHEEP DO AT ALL......AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU DO ON HERE.....EVEN NOW, YOU STILL PRETEND TO BE A SHEEP,ONLY BECAUSE YOU WERE CONFRONTED!!! JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO, YOU POSTED THAT YOU DID NOT BEELIEVE THE FATHER JESUS AND THE HOLY SPRIT IS ONE ENTITY AT ALL... AND HERE JUST NOW, YOU ARE TRYINB TO FOOL PEOPLE INTO BELEIVING THAT YOU DO BELEIVE THE FATHER AND SON AND HOLY SPIRIT IS ONE GOD... BUT THE PEOLPE DON'T KNOWE YOU BELIEVE SOMETHING EMTIRELY DIFFERENT FROM THE SHEEP....AND THAT IS HOW YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FOOL OTHERS ON HERE FOR OVER 2 YEARS NOW. BUT I KNOW IN MY HEART THAT GOD WILL NOT LET YOU CONTINUE DECEIVING FOREVER...... GOD WILL EVENTUALLY DEAL WITH YOU. I WEEP...CAUSE AT ONE TIME,I HAD SUCH HIGH HOPES FOR YOU.......NOW I JUST WEEP...AND PRAY . JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO, YOU POSTED THAT YOU DID NOT BEELIEVE THE FATHER JESUS AND THE HOLY SPRIT IS ONE ENTITY AT ALL... AND HERE JUST NOW, YOU ARE TRYINB TO FOOL PEOPLE INTO BELEIVING THAT YOU DO BELEIVE THE FATHER AND SON AND HOLY SPIRIT IS ONE GOD... BUT THE PEOLPE DON'T KNOWE YOU BELIEVE SOMETHING EMTIRELY They are one God. Again, that does not mean they are one entity, one being. For throughout the ENTIRE bible it separates the three. From Genesis to revelations, it separates the two, from God, LORD God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. THEY ARE 3 SEPARATE PERSONS IN ONE ENTITY!!!!!!!!! THIS HAS BEEN EXPLAINED TO YOU FOR ALMOST A YEAR NOW!! 3 SEPARATE PERSONS IN ONE ENTITY!!! AGAIN...GOD WILL NOT ALLOW THIS DECEPTION OF YOURS TO GO ON FOREVER.....GOD IS STILL GOD ..AND IS STILL IN CONTROL...EVEN OVER FALSE TEACHERS. GOODBYE COWBOY.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 01/16/12 07:51 PM Edited by CowboyGH on Mon 01/16/12 07:52 PM
Jesus didn't know the time of judgement while he was on Earth, this much is true. That is because he humbled himself taking on the form of a servant, separating himself from God temporarily till he returned to Heaven. so Jesus had amnesia? .... Cowboy...so....er...are you trying to prove that Jesus is God or prove that he isn't? by claiming that he has memory lost is a vote leaning towards that he isn't Jesus is God. And I'm not trying to prove anything. You believing Jesus is God has no bearing on my salvation, I do this out of love for you Funches and the other's that read this forum. And no Jesus didn't have "amnesia". God the Father knows the time of judgement, The Father, The Word, and The Holy Spirit are all one God. Jesus left his glory behind and took on the form of a servant eg., separating himself from the Father temporarily, thus not knowing the time of judgement and only the father knowing for at this point and time Jesus was separated temporarily from the Father. Cowboy...this is why you are a wolf in sheepclothing... right here in your post above , it "SOUNDS" to the world, like you are one of the sheep.......and that you actually do believe JESUS is God, like Christians do....and that you beleive The Father and Son and Holy Spirit are One God, like Christians do. BUT you DON't BELIEVE IT THE SAME WAY AS CHRISTIANS DO !!! AND THAT IS WHERE THE DECEPTION COMES IN!!!!!!! ANT THAT IS WHY YOU ARE A WOLF !!! BECAUSE YOU ONLY BELEIVE THEY ARE GOD ,IN THE SENSE OF BEING SOME KIND OF 'GOVERNMENT"....BUT NOT AS ONE ENTITY !!! AND YOU BELIEVE JESUS IS GOD , BUT NOT ONE ENTITY WiTH GOD THE FATHER....BUT ONLY AS AN ENTIRELY SEPARATE ENTITY FROM GOD THE FATHER ENTIRELY !!!! AND THAT IS EXACTLY HOW A FALSE TEACHER SNEAKS INTO THE FOLD.....A FALSE TEACHER DOES EXACTLY THIS..... BUT IS ONLY A WOLF WHO "PRETENDS" TO BELEIVE AS OTHER SHEEP DO...BUT ALL ALONG, HE KNOWS HE DOES NOT BELEIVE THE SAME WAY AS THE SHEEP DO AT ALL......AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU DO ON HERE.....EVEN NOW, YOU STILL PRETEND TO BE A SHEEP,ONLY BECAUSE YOU WERE CONFRONTED!!! JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO, YOU POSTED THAT YOU DID NOT BEELIEVE THE FATHER JESUS AND THE HOLY SPRIT IS ONE ENTITY AT ALL... AND HERE JUST NOW, YOU ARE TRYINB TO FOOL PEOPLE INTO BELEIVING THAT YOU DO BELEIVE THE FATHER AND SON AND HOLY SPIRIT IS ONE GOD... BUT THE PEOLPE DON'T KNOWE YOU BELIEVE SOMETHING EMTIRELY DIFFERENT FROM THE SHEEP....AND THAT IS HOW YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FOOL OTHERS ON HERE FOR OVER 2 YEARS NOW. BUT I KNOW IN MY HEART THAT GOD WILL NOT LET YOU CONTINUE DECEIVING FOREVER...... GOD WILL EVENTUALLY DEAL WITH YOU. I WEEP...CAUSE AT ONE TIME,I HAD SUCH HIGH HOPES FOR YOU.......NOW I JUST WEEP...AND PRAY . JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO, YOU POSTED THAT YOU DID NOT BEELIEVE THE FATHER JESUS AND THE HOLY SPRIT IS ONE ENTITY AT ALL... AND HERE JUST NOW, YOU ARE TRYINB TO FOOL PEOPLE INTO BELEIVING THAT YOU DO BELEIVE THE FATHER AND SON AND HOLY SPIRIT IS ONE GOD... BUT THE PEOLPE DON'T KNOWE YOU BELIEVE SOMETHING EMTIRELY They are one God. Again, that does not mean they are one entity, one being. For throughout the ENTIRE bible it separates the three. From Genesis to revelations, it separates the two, from God, LORD God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. [COLOR-BLUE]THEY ARE 3 SEPARATE PERSONS IN ONE ENTITY!!!!!!!!! THIS HAS BEEN EXPLAINED TO YOU FOR ALMOST A YEAR NOW!! 3 SEPARATE PERSONS IN ONE ENTITY!!! AGAIN...GOD WILL NOT ALLOW THIS DECEPTION OF YOURS TO GO ON FOREVER.....GOD IS STILL GOD ..AND IS STILL IN CONTROL...EVEN OVER FASLE TEACHERS. GOODBYE COWBOY. THEY ARE 3 SEPARATE PERSONS IN ONE ENTITY!!!!!!!!! THIS HAS BEEN EXPLAINED TO YOU FOR ALMOST A YEAR NOW!! The way you explain would mean that God the father took on the form of a person eg., Jesus Christ and walked upon this Earth. And God the Father in Spirit is known as The Holy Spirit. 1. Jesus can not be his Father, his God in the flesh for he refers to his father in third person, would be lying if they were one entity. And God the Father spoke and or made an appearance at the exact same time as Jesus. Thus they could not even remotely possibly be one "entity". 2. 3 separate persons can not be one entity. They are either one, or three "entities". "Family", is it one "entity"? No, it is not one "entity", but it is "one" even though made up of multiple people, it is still nevertheless a singular noun. Good bye MorningSong.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 01/16/12 07:54 PM
Adam was not placed there to till no garden. I know this may come to a shock to you...but according to the bible... God needed a man to tend the garden that he created perhaps to grow and sell fresh vegetables to the Elohim Place give the verse(s) that say they were there to tend the Garden. Please teach us all Funches. ok no problem..but I have to say that it's scary that you claim to be a Christian and don't know the story of Adam adn Eve Genesis 2:15 The LORD God placed the man in the Garden of Eden to tend and watch over it. I wasn't a big fan of teaching religion in public school...but jeez how else are you guys going to learn what you believe in

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 01/16/12 07:58 PM
Genesis 3:4 And the serpent said to the woman, You shall not surely die: wouldn't the knowledge or the conception of Death fall into the realm of having the knowledge of evil,which Eve supposedly didn't have , so whether she would die or not die if she ate the fruit would not present any effect on her decision since she lacked that knowledge Does not matter if God said she would grow a tail, a third leg, a third arm, or even another toe. Bottom line is God told them not to, doesn't matter the consequence. God only gave a direct command to Adam not to eat from the tree...he did not give this command to Eve Weather God told Eve directly or not, she knew. She disobeyed even knowing what was she not to do. Genesis 3 1Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? 2And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: 3But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die Cowboy when God gave that command to Adam, he still had all his ribs...Eve was not formed yet ...God punish Eve for no reason

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 01/16/12 07:59 PM
Adam was not placed there to till no garden. I know this may come to a shock to you...but according to the bible... God needed a man to tend the garden that he created perhaps to grow and sell fresh vegetables to the Elohim Place give the verse(s) that say they were there to tend the Garden. Please teach us all Funches. ok no problem..but I have to say that it's scary that you claim to be a Christian and don't know the story of Adam adn Eve Genesis 2:15 The LORD God placed the man in the Garden of Eden to tend and watch over it. I wasn't a big fan of teaching religion in public school...but jeez how else are you guys going to learn what you believe in All I see is empty words in your post. Genesis 2:15 15And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it. God needed a man to tend the garden that he created The above verse shows differently then your vein words. God gave the Garden to Man, he was not there to just till it and work on it. He was there to make the Garden his home.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 01/16/12 08:02 PM Edited by CowboyGH on Mon 01/16/12 08:03 PM
Genesis 3:4 And the serpent said to the woman, You shall not surely die: wouldn't the knowledge or the conception of Death fall into the realm of having the knowledge of evil,which Eve supposedly didn't have , so whether she would die or not die if she ate the fruit would not present any effect on her decision since she lacked that knowledge Does not matter if God said she would grow a tail, a third leg, a third arm, or even another toe. Bottom line is God told them not to, doesn't matter the consequence. God only gave a direct command to Adam not to eat from the tree...he did not give this command to Eve Weather God told Eve directly or not, she knew. She disobeyed even knowing what was she not to do. Genesis 3 1Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? 2And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: 3But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die Cowboy when God gave that command to Adam, he still had all his ribs...Eve was not formed yet ...God punish Eve for no reason Does not matter if Eve was there or not when the law was given, fact still remains that she knew. I'd like to see you use this in Court for a speeding ticket. "Well I was not there when the law of not speeding was given" Would be your defense. Again, does not matter if she was there or not when the law was given, the below verses shows clearly that she knew not to eat of the fruit. 2And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: 3But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 01/16/12 08:08 PM
Yes he was omniscient before he became flesh. But the time of judgement is not set in stone, it is not set for a specific day. He will return when all prophecies are fulfilled. There is not a time frame set for the fulfillment of the prophecies. Could take hundreds, could take thousands, heck could even take millions of years. according to the bible one day is like a thousand years and a thousand years is like a day...which is why to an omniscient entity everything would be set in stone, that's why they are omniscient ..... so am I'm to assume that you are unable to provide a passage from the bible to back up what you are saying and/or which states that Jesus in fact does know the time of Judgement Day if not....make sure you inform the serpent that what he told you about Jesus being omniscient and a God was false according to the bible one day is like a thousand years and a thousand years is like a day...which is why to an omniscient entity everything would be set in stone, that's why they are omniscient Please give some verses that support such a statement Funches. I am unaware of any verses that support God saying this or that in a day, a 1000 years, or whatever may be the case to mean anything other then the amount of time he has said. For how are we to know how long, how many, ect if God means something other then what he is saying? God is giving us the knowledge, how would he be giving us any knowledge if when he says 1 day he means 100 years or something but does not inform us of such? according to the events in the bible God can't be any older than 6,000 years old which is when his alpha began ...so when it comes to the realm of time he's like a tiny baby God .. Please do enlighten us with these verses that back your claim. Cause I never seen in my readings where it said "These are the days when the LORD God made the Earth and Heavens in 500 bc. or anything of such. So please do enlighten us where you get this time frame. time started at Genesis 1:1......it took God six days to create and one day to rest, Christians believe that the Earth is only 6,000 years old, but the biblical stories suggest that it's less, so to be on the safe side that makes the age of God around 6,000 years and 7 days old, give or take a day or two ... Time did not start in Genesis 1:1, the creation of Earth and Heaven happened in Genesis 1, but that does not mean time started then. And where do you get this that Christians believe the world is around 6000 years old? What scriptural evidence do they have to support such a statement? time and Alpha started exactly at Genesis 1:1 simply because nothing supposedly existed not even time.....and at that point in time in Genesis 1:1 the bible becomes a diary as to how old the Earth and God may be ....with the adages "BC and AD" .... according to this evidence God is no older than 6,000 years and 7 days old

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 01/16/12 08:14 PM
Yes he was omniscient before he became flesh. But the time of judgement is not set in stone, it is not set for a specific day. He will return when all prophecies are fulfilled. There is not a time frame set for the fulfillment of the prophecies. Could take hundreds, could take thousands, heck could even take millions of years. according to the bible one day is like a thousand years and a thousand years is like a day...which is why to an omniscient entity everything would be set in stone, that's why they are omniscient ..... so am I'm to assume that you are unable to provide a passage from the bible to back up what you are saying and/or which states that Jesus in fact does know the time of Judgement Day if not....make sure you inform the serpent that what he told you about Jesus being omniscient and a God was false according to the bible one day is like a thousand years and a thousand years is like a day...which is why to an omniscient entity everything would be set in stone, that's why they are omniscient Please give some verses that support such a statement Funches. I am unaware of any verses that support God saying this or that in a day, a 1000 years, or whatever may be the case to mean anything other then the amount of time he has said. For how are we to know how long, how many, ect if God means something other then what he is saying? God is giving us the knowledge, how would he be giving us any knowledge if when he says 1 day he means 100 years or something but does not inform us of such? according to the events in the bible God can't be any older than 6,000 years old which is when his alpha began ...so when it comes to the realm of time he's like a tiny baby God .. Please do enlighten us with these verses that back your claim. Cause I never seen in my readings where it said "These are the days when the LORD God made the Earth and Heavens in 500 bc. or anything of such. So please do enlighten us where you get this time frame. time started at Genesis 1:1......it took God six days to create and one day to rest, Christians believe that the Earth is only 6,000 years old, but the biblical stories suggest that it's less, so to be on the safe side that makes the age of God around 6,000 years and 7 days old, give or take a day or two ... Time did not start in Genesis 1:1, the creation of Earth and Heaven happened in Genesis 1, but that does not mean time started then. And where do you get this that Christians believe the world is around 6000 years old? What scriptural evidence do they have to support such a statement? time and Alpha started exactly at Genesis 1:1 simply because nothing supposedly existed not even time.....and at that point in time in Genesis 1:1 the bible becomes a diary as to how old the Earth and God may be ....with the adages "BC and AD" .... according to this evidence God is no older than 6,000 years and 7 days old Show me a verse where it says "God" was created, made, and or came into existence in Genesis. Genesis 1:1 says nothing about Alpha starting, or even really time starting. Only gives a summary of the information that was bout to be given in the scriptures about the creation of Heaven, Earth. Genesis 1 1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.