I guess it's natural behavior.
every lady has to see like that at least once when she encounters with a stranger,else she will be in trouble every other occasion.

No I'm a lover not a sex hound and making love would never involve a favor or money attached to it, i was just trying to add a little humor to the story lol.There are some women that i am not happy with that i put my butt on the line for only to be quickly forgotten but in that case what go;s around comes around.Martin

The sex thing has never been my issue but favors done "supposedly" from the goodness of heart seem to transform into a debt of some kind later. Which usually gets ugly.

If I give time or money to another person, I consider it a gift and there is no going back later about it or feeling I now get to tell them how to live their lives because I gave. I expect the same but don't get it so I don't let people do favors for me most of the time. If I cannot do something back for them or pay them back I just don't let them do anything.

It is sad that the control freaks who use the ruse of kindness change people but it sure does happen.

Has it ever dawned on women that this may be one of the reasons some men aren't chivalrous anymore.

Thank you for saying the most sensible thing in this thread.

Some men aren't chivalrous anymore because some women have had experiences with men in the past who do favors with the expectation of getting sex in return?

The truth is I can't stand the embarrassment any longer. I resolved never to offer help to women, especially beautiful ones, except if they ask for it. I believe when people ask for help, what they expect is help. It is up to them to decide how to pay back, (that's if they ever think of it).

The truth is I can't stand the embarrassment any longer. I resolved never to offer help to women, especially beautiful ones, except if they ask for it. I believe when people ask for help, what they expect is help. It is up to them to decide how to pay back, (that's if they ever think of it).

exactly. Some women feel that way just like some men feel that being a 'friend' is a dead end path that means they can never evolve into anything else,,,,


but not all women or men believe these things,,,

I agree. From a young age we're warned about men and their perverted ways. We're told they're only after one thing.

When we grow up, we still have this engraved, so naturally we're going to wonder what the "nice" guys hidden intentions are.

Maybe they just fancy you :)

Most of the time women have thease bloody idea in there head that "All Men have Sex on there mind but yet a lot cant get over the fact that maybe they have the issue as well.

I helped a lot of people i dont ask for anything back i dont take things for granted and yet some women are way to pig headed to believe that there are men out there who do have the heart to help.
So get over it not all men out there think that way.

This is just true of HUMAN beings. NOTHING is done without motivation.

Altruism is as rare as friendship.

Cherish it every-time you see it. The problem is of course not being so Jaded you never see it even when its right in front of you . . .


BTW, I DO have sex on my mind nearly 24/7, but I also have physics going thru this head 24/7 and random statistics, and lots of other things as well, what I act on however is another matter.

Realizing that someone can want to sleep with you, but will also help you without thinking or expecting ANYTHING in return is more realistic.

Just my .02

A nicer way of thinking IMHO.

Why is it you keep generalizing on every thread?

Men haven't been chivalrous since they stopped being knights. They were just showing good manners which is something we all should be doing anyways.

I just usually buy the guy lunch and send him on his way.

Hello were not finished here.

Granted a lot of us men are or can be PIGS and yes iam not afriaed to admit that i seen a lot of men out there who mentaly abuse women by screwing with there amotions etc pretty dam sick guys get a life.

But also there are women out there who do that same crap so the point is this i help men and women out there i never ask for anything you know why iam not that type to get anything in return now what if a woman offerd sex to me i would refuse iam not gay ok first of all i would look at it as the woman that offer sex to me for helping is like paying a hooker for a good time you realy think that female would find any one desent know she be treated as a whore no affense to any one.

Thats what it would be like i hear women b1tc a lot say men such pigs no wonder why i turn gay heres a women who believes in all men wich is judging all not seeing the small amount who dont share that intrest talking about not thinking omfg.

There is a few women i helped and i with they would of payed me back with sex lol,hmmm instead i got payed back with nothing at all.

Heres the answere it's called a c0ck tease and yes women play the part as well as men works bouth ways.My best advice is if your going to help any one out there better know the facts are you going to risk it SAY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SEX WTH U THINKING?? A laywer once told me a lot of cases he seen is over rape it could be staged rape etc but people dont think of the risk do they they think ok help this person and maybe get her in the sack or maybe a blow but when a woman turns that guy down i seen this the guy calls that woman every name in the book i realy think that male or female should think befor they act.

Iam so glad i never ask for anything in return if a person offerd money or a gift so be it at least i didn't ask or want it.