What I was trying to accomplish is to learn from parents with the same situation as me. I want to hear and learn how they addressed this kind of issue when they were raising their own children and or if they still on the same boat as me, maybe they can help me improve my parenting style. As I mentioned in my past posting, I want to get and learn the best out of everything. The results were overwhelming, I would say positive/negative feedback were both noted and would help and guide me in parenting my son. Hopefully, I can give you a feedback on the years to come.


To all contributors, from my heart, thank you very much. I am closing this thread and God bless you and your family.


Happy Holidays to all of you


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I just wanted to add my brother was a hemophiliac who died of AIDS from HIV tainted plasma. I had been raised homosexuality was wrong. As I cried my eyes out in the ICU waiting room, it was gay men back then (1989) who were losing friends and lovers who held me as an 18 year old straight girl and comforted me. Back then, they had hot pink and red bio-hazard signs. It was awful. No one wanted to touch you. It was like those babies who die in orphanages because no one holds them. As the sister of a guy with AIDS, everyone was afraid or made judgments that he was an IV drug user or gay and could "catch it from me". As there are no atheists in fox holes, when you go through something like that and another human being regardless of sexuality holds you in their arms and says that they understand (I am crying as writing this) you cannot hate them. I changed my mind then and have never gone back. A good person gay or straight is a good person. A loving person gay or straight is loving person. I absolutely refuse and reject the idea of god punishing those men who held me for hours. Who bought me food and drinks out of vending machines for hours. Who handed me Kleenex after Kleenex after Kleenex as they lost their best friends and companions. If those men who did that for me go to hell, may I go to hell as well because I want to be with them and not judgmental narrow minded jerks.

I think this is a practical concern, and agree there is a benefit in changing our habits so as to influence the kinds of interactions we have with others. I learned not to sit in half-lotus or gomukh asana it certain situations, even though it prevent me from getting back pains, as it attracted too much unwanted curiosity and conversation.

everyone who commits a crime , rather breaking mans law or a spiritual one, IM sure has people they love who love them, and people they have done wonderful things for

yet, the consequence, or punishment, isnt lifted because such loved ones can be found,,,,,


I am not one to insist that any such broken law ALWAYS faces judgment in the mortal world, or ALWAYS leads by itself to a judgment seperated from God in the spiritual one

but breaking a law is breaking a law, whether we agree with or understand the law

and I dont think anyone who breaks a law automatically is seperated from God, because I dont think anyone has been capable of upholding all laws their whole life

but I do think willful, stubborn, and continuous breaking of laws is more likely to lead to seperation from God

just like someone who may have stolen a candy bar once may not go to jail, but someone who makes a habit of stealing probably will have a greater chance of doing so

God has no laws like that beyond that we exist, religion makes them up for control and power, which has worked quite well on the likes of you quite obviously.

Think outside your box for a minute. Does it REALLY make sense that a loving God would punish anyone for simply choosing to LOVE another person of the same sex? I'm sorry but that's NOT the God I know. Any God that would do that is FAR from a loving God, and the God I know has love that knows no bounds.

if you think so,,,,,

if you think the offense is in 'loving' someone, as opposed to having 'carnal' relations

let me ask you if you think a grown man who 'loves' a child should be excused from our laws?

love and sex are not the same thing, the consequences are not the same either,,,

love and sex, I dont think, are the same thing to GOD



if you think love absolves all consequences,,,that explains alot and there is nothing I could really explain that would make sense to you

Hey people, chillax.

We're not helping out the lady out by trying to shove our beliefs down each others throats. Let us allow the thread to fizzle out as we have 16 pages on the matter.

If you guys want to keep the subject going, try posting a new thread and go there to banter.

Not trying to be confrontational, just a suggestion.

good suggestion

Its a very sensitive topic for me,

I hope the OP got something useful out of the posts, IM gonna leave it at this,,,

Number one, a man loving a child, and two consensual adults loving each other are nowhere near the same thing. As such that extreme argument just doesn't work.

Second, in the contest of a committed relationship, be it hetero or homo the act of sex symbolizes the same thing, expressing love to their partner. If you wanna think God frowns on that with two men or two women that's your business, but I choose to think higher of God than that.

Lastly, I don't think there's much more I can say that would make sense to you either. No matter what anyone tries to tell you, you have consistently shown a pattern of parroting what your religion tells you to believe. You refuse to step out of that box to the idea that there is something more to life than you are being told.

Quite frankly I find that very sad, but if you wanna believe such things I suppose so be it.

Having said all that, I like you did in your last post will leave the topic at this.

the argument comparing mere 'love' to having sex is the one that seems extreme to me

but to each their own,,,