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Topic: Air Force pursuing antimatter weapons
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Wed 09/21/11 10:13 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 09/21/11 10:19 PM
This is a moving gif image showing a steel beam turning to dust and collapsing. This dust was all over the area of the trade center. Some of the dust also remained in the upper atmosphere. The whole area was covered with inches of this dust. The rubble from the 110 story towers amounted to only about 2% of the mass of the buildings.

110 stories. Offices with furniture, bathrooms, over 200 elevators, 400 toilets at least had to be in that building. No broken parts were found. No file cabinets were found, not very many steel beams were actually found, no chunks of concrete were found. They were all "dustified."

Not normal.




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Thu 09/22/11 07:29 AM
Concrete dust from concrete being destroyed. Sigh, it really makes no sense what you are claiming.

Chazster's photo
Thu 09/22/11 08:42 AM
As someone that used to watch a discovery channel or history channel show on non lethal weapons I recognize the first 3 of those pictures. The third one down is a basically a heating lamp on a humvee. Its called the Active Denial System and you can look it up. The LA police department said they were gonna start using them in prisons. Some buildings have them with motion sensors to keep thieves from breaking in by cutting their fences.

I the top 2 look like the sonic weapon I saw on the show. Basically using heat to compress the air in a targeted location to create a sonic boom at an intensity loud enough to make everyone in the area pass out. The object was to be able to infiltrate an are where enemies were hiding among civilians with little harm to the civilian population. Yes suck evil intentions.

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Thu 09/22/11 10:59 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 09/22/11 11:24 AM

Concrete dust from concrete being destroyed. Sigh, it really makes no sense what you are claiming.


So how was the concrete destroyed? From falling? I don't think so. That is not what happens in controlled demolitions. Tons of stuff have to be carted off.

Sorry, but concrete encased inside of steel beams falling one floor on top of another would not be pulverized into fine dust particles. (Especially as quickly as this happened.) Do you not see the pictures I put up here? That is a steal beam being turned into dust. Can you not believe what you see?

What the official report claims does not make sense. A 110 story building, falling one floor on top of another in succession does not turn everything to fine dust. And that is clearly not what happened. It would be a pile of rubble over 6 stories high. There would be things in that rubble. Furniture, glass, file cabinets, toilets, elevators, dead bodies etc.

Do you realize that none of this was found? Only a few things from the bottom floor remained. The rubble did not go into the floors below the building.

Do you honestly think an airplane made of aluminum could slice through steal and concrete like paper or air? Do you honestly believe that a plane hitting a tower on the 94th floor would cause 1400 - 1600 cars to be destroyed a block away but paper filling the streets was not burned?

If you think that what I am claiming does not make sense, I have yet to see any of you scientific types explain any of this.

Do you really think all these people investigating 9-11 are wasting their time making all this stuff up? Creating a bunch of fake pictures? Lying about interviewing really witnesses? Really? Why would they waste their time just to be subjected to abuse and ridicule from people who want to believe the official story no matter what?

I am baffled. Totally baffled at people who still cling to the governments official and extremely lame account of what happened who don't ask questions, and who can't answer these questions.




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Thu 09/22/11 11:03 AM

As someone that used to watch a discovery channel or history channel show on non lethal weapons I recognize the first 3 of those pictures. The third one down is a basically a heating lamp on a humvee. Its called the Active Denial System and you can look it up. The LA police department said they were gonna start using them in prisons. Some buildings have them with motion sensors to keep thieves from breaking in by cutting their fences.

I the top 2 look like the sonic weapon I saw on the show. Basically using heat to compress the air in a targeted location to create a sonic boom at an intensity loud enough to make everyone in the area pass out. The object was to be able to infiltrate an are where enemies were hiding among civilians with little harm to the civilian population. Yes suck evil intentions.


Chaster I know what those weapons are. I looked them up. What do you think I put the pictures up there for?

I know all about the Active Denial System. It is soft soaped as being a "crowd control device." It distributes a lot of PAIN to crowds of people. BUT what they don't tell you is that they have weapons that can do much more than that. They have weapons that can totally blind an entire crowd, and that can kill people, melt cars etc. They have tested these weapons in Iraq.


mightymoe's photo
Thu 09/22/11 11:08 AM

This is a moving gif image showing a steel beam turning to dust and collapsing. This dust was all over the area of the trade center. Some of the dust also remained in the upper atmosphere. The whole area was covered with inches of this dust. The rubble from the 110 story towers amounted to only about 2% of the mass of the buildings.

110 stories. Offices with furniture, bathrooms, over 200 elevators, 400 toilets at least had to be in that building. No broken parts were found. No file cabinets were found, not very many steel beams were actually found, no chunks of concrete were found. They were all "dustified."

Not normal.






it's not normal that you can't see the forest for the trees... all the dust was coming from BELOW the beams, which we can clearly see in your pictures... do you really think they have something that turns steel into dust? So by what you are saying, you think they used 3 or 4 weapons on the WTC? The bombs, planes, and 2 different kinds of energy weapons, one that melts steel and another that turns it(steel) into dust? the cars were not turned into dust, why is that?

mightymoe's photo
Thu 09/22/11 11:11 AM
did they turn the people into dust, or did the people melt? they didn't find very many bodies...

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Thu 09/22/11 11:16 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 09/22/11 11:22 AM

This is a moving gif image showing a steel beam turning to dust and collapsing. This dust was all over the area of the trade center. Some of the dust also remained in the upper atmosphere. The whole area was covered with inches of this dust. The rubble from the 110 story towers amounted to only about 2% of the mass of the buildings.

110 stories. Offices with furniture, bathrooms, over 200 elevators, 400 toilets at least had to be in that building. No broken parts were found. No file cabinets were found, not very many steel beams were actually found, no chunks of concrete were found. They were all "dustified."

Not normal.





it's not normal that you can't see the forest for the trees... all the dust was coming from BELOW the beams, which we can clearly see in your pictures... do you really think they have something that turns steel into dust? So by what you are saying, you think they used 3 or 4 weapons on the WTC? The bombs, planes, and 2 different kinds of energy weapons, one that melts steel and another that turns it(steel) into dust? the cars were not turned into dust, why is that?



Chaster, that picture clearly shows a steal beam being turned into dust. The dust was everywhere because EVERYTHING was turning to dust. The steal beam is there one minute and gone the next.

What I might believe is totally irrelevant.

The cars were totaled, mangled, melted and instantly rusted. Glass in some were completely gone. The ones that were not turned into dust probably did not get a direct hit of whatever it was. There may have been some that were turned into dust but of course you would not be able to find them would you?

Just like they did not find any dead bodies, or anything else that was in those buildings. They found nothing. 200 elevators in each building, probably 500 - 1000 toilets, plumbing, furniture, etc. Nothing was found ... except one part of a single file cabinet.. melted.

Explain that before you start asking me about why the cars were not turned into dust. geeeeze.

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Thu 09/22/11 11:19 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 09/22/11 11:23 AM

did they turn the people into dust, or did the people melt? they didn't find very many bodies...


Good, at least you are starting to ask questions.

In Iraq, they claimed that the human remains they did find were about 1/3 the size of normal human remains. Some just had their heads destroyed or their eyes burned out. Others had injuries and cuts all over, or missing arms and legs, but there were no signs of bullets or projectiles. They had no idea what kind of weapons had been used on them.

Ask questions. That is what people should do. Don't kill the messengers.

mightymoe's photo
Thu 09/22/11 11:30 AM


This is a moving gif image showing a steel beam turning to dust and collapsing. This dust was all over the area of the trade center. Some of the dust also remained in the upper atmosphere. The whole area was covered with inches of this dust. The rubble from the 110 story towers amounted to only about 2% of the mass of the buildings.

110 stories. Offices with furniture, bathrooms, over 200 elevators, 400 toilets at least had to be in that building. No broken parts were found. No file cabinets were found, not very many steel beams were actually found, no chunks of concrete were found. They were all "dustified."

Not normal.





it's not normal that you can't see the forest for the trees... all the dust was coming from BELOW the beams, which we can clearly see in your pictures... do you really think they have something that turns steel into dust? So by what you are saying, you think they used 3 or 4 weapons on the WTC? The bombs, planes, and 2 different kinds of energy weapons, one that melts steel and another that turns it(steel) into dust? the cars were not turned into dust, why is that?



Chaster, that picture clearly shows a steal beam being turned into dust. The dust was everywhere because EVERYTHING was turning to dust. The steal beam is there one minute and gone the next.

What I might believe is totally irrelevant.

The cars were totaled, mangled, melted and instantly rusted. Glass in some were completely gone. The ones that were not turned into dust probably did not get a direct hit of whatever it was. There may have been some that were turned into dust but of course you would not be able to find them would you?

Just like they did not find any dead bodies, or anything else that was in those buildings. They found nothing. 200 elevators in each building, probably 500 - 1000 toilets, plumbing, furniture, etc. Nothing was found ... except one part of a single file cabinet.. melted.

Explain that before you start asking me about why the cars were not turned into dust. geeeeze.


yea, i'm sure those desks and toilets were made to withstand 1000's of tons of pressure...

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Thu 09/22/11 11:30 AM
On the afternoon of 9/11/01 the "rubble pile" left from WTC1 is essentially non-existent. WTC7 can be seen in the distance, revealing the photo was taken before 5:20 PM that day.

Does this look like 110 stories of rubble? Is it 6 stories high?



More pictures:

http://drjudywood.com/articles/DEW/StarWarsBeam6.html

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Thu 09/22/11 11:32 AM



This is a moving gif image showing a steel beam turning to dust and collapsing. This dust was all over the area of the trade center. Some of the dust also remained in the upper atmosphere. The whole area was covered with inches of this dust. The rubble from the 110 story towers amounted to only about 2% of the mass of the buildings.

110 stories. Offices with furniture, bathrooms, over 200 elevators, 400 toilets at least had to be in that building. No broken parts were found. No file cabinets were found, not very many steel beams were actually found, no chunks of concrete were found. They were all "dustified."

Not normal.





it's not normal that you can't see the forest for the trees... all the dust was coming from BELOW the beams, which we can clearly see in your pictures... do you really think they have something that turns steel into dust? So by what you are saying, you think they used 3 or 4 weapons on the WTC? The bombs, planes, and 2 different kinds of energy weapons, one that melts steel and another that turns it(steel) into dust? the cars were not turned into dust, why is that?



Chaster, that picture clearly shows a steal beam being turned into dust. The dust was everywhere because EVERYTHING was turning to dust. The steal beam is there one minute and gone the next.

What I might believe is totally irrelevant.

The cars were totaled, mangled, melted and instantly rusted. Glass in some were completely gone. The ones that were not turned into dust probably did not get a direct hit of whatever it was. There may have been some that were turned into dust but of course you would not be able to find them would you?

Just like they did not find any dead bodies, or anything else that was in those buildings. They found nothing. 200 elevators in each building, probably 500 - 1000 toilets, plumbing, furniture, etc. Nothing was found ... except one part of a single file cabinet.. melted.

Explain that before you start asking me about why the cars were not turned into dust. geeeeze.


yea, i'm sure those desks and toilets were made to withstand 1000's of tons of pressure...



There is no possible way they would have all been turned into fine dust. No possible way.

Where is the rubble people?

mightymoe's photo
Thu 09/22/11 11:35 AM




This is a moving gif image showing a steel beam turning to dust and collapsing. This dust was all over the area of the trade center. Some of the dust also remained in the upper atmosphere. The whole area was covered with inches of this dust. The rubble from the 110 story towers amounted to only about 2% of the mass of the buildings.

110 stories. Offices with furniture, bathrooms, over 200 elevators, 400 toilets at least had to be in that building. No broken parts were found. No file cabinets were found, not very many steel beams were actually found, no chunks of concrete were found. They were all "dustified."

Not normal.





it's not normal that you can't see the forest for the trees... all the dust was coming from BELOW the beams, which we can clearly see in your pictures... do you really think they have something that turns steel into dust? So by what you are saying, you think they used 3 or 4 weapons on the WTC? The bombs, planes, and 2 different kinds of energy weapons, one that melts steel and another that turns it(steel) into dust? the cars were not turned into dust, why is that?



Chaster, that picture clearly shows a steal beam being turned into dust. The dust was everywhere because EVERYTHING was turning to dust. The steal beam is there one minute and gone the next.

What I might believe is totally irrelevant.

The cars were totaled, mangled, melted and instantly rusted. Glass in some were completely gone. The ones that were not turned into dust probably did not get a direct hit of whatever it was. There may have been some that were turned into dust but of course you would not be able to find them would you?

Just like they did not find any dead bodies, or anything else that was in those buildings. They found nothing. 200 elevators in each building, probably 500 - 1000 toilets, plumbing, furniture, etc. Nothing was found ... except one part of a single file cabinet.. melted.

Explain that before you start asking me about why the cars were not turned into dust. geeeeze.


yea, i'm sure those desks and toilets were made to withstand 1000's of tons of pressure...



There is no possible way they would have all been turned into fine dust. No possible way.

Where is the rubble people?


well, good luck with your research, i'm sure between you and a few others in here will figure out the big conspiracy, and make the government stop lying to us...

Chazster's photo
Thu 09/22/11 11:36 AM


As someone that used to watch a discovery channel or history channel show on non lethal weapons I recognize the first 3 of those pictures. The third one down is a basically a heating lamp on a humvee. Its called the Active Denial System and you can look it up. The LA police department said they were gonna start using them in prisons. Some buildings have them with motion sensors to keep thieves from breaking in by cutting their fences.

I the top 2 look like the sonic weapon I saw on the show. Basically using heat to compress the air in a targeted location to create a sonic boom at an intensity loud enough to make everyone in the area pass out. The object was to be able to infiltrate an are where enemies were hiding among civilians with little harm to the civilian population. Yes suck evil intentions.


Chaster I know what those weapons are. I looked them up. What do you think I put the pictures up there for?

I know all about the Active Denial System. It is soft soaped as being a "crowd control device." It distributes a lot of PAIN to crowds of people. BUT what they don't tell you is that they have weapons that can do much more than that. They have weapons that can totally blind an entire crowd, and that can kill people, melt cars etc. They have tested these weapons in Iraq.



No they don't have that. That technology doesn't exist sorry.

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Thu 09/22/11 11:39 AM
So why do people continue to make up excuses in an attempt to defend the lame official story of what happened on 9-11?

Why do people refuse to believe the actual evidence?

And here is a good question.

WHY IS IT A "TRUTHER" WHO IS PROVIDING THESE PICTURES AND NOT OUR OWN GOVERNMENT INVESTIGATORS?

And why is everything CLASSIFIED? Why can't independent civilian investigators have access to certain information if everything that happened was just a plane hitting a tower and was flown by Islamic terrorists with box-cutters?

Why does the FBI say that they have no real hard evidence connecting Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda to this attack?

Again, why is it all classified?

What is so "secret?"


Chazster's photo
Thu 09/22/11 11:40 AM




This is a moving gif image showing a steel beam turning to dust and collapsing. This dust was all over the area of the trade center. Some of the dust also remained in the upper atmosphere. The whole area was covered with inches of this dust. The rubble from the 110 story towers amounted to only about 2% of the mass of the buildings.

110 stories. Offices with furniture, bathrooms, over 200 elevators, 400 toilets at least had to be in that building. No broken parts were found. No file cabinets were found, not very many steel beams were actually found, no chunks of concrete were found. They were all "dustified."

Not normal.





it's not normal that you can't see the forest for the trees... all the dust was coming from BELOW the beams, which we can clearly see in your pictures... do you really think they have something that turns steel into dust? So by what you are saying, you think they used 3 or 4 weapons on the WTC? The bombs, planes, and 2 different kinds of energy weapons, one that melts steel and another that turns it(steel) into dust? the cars were not turned into dust, why is that?



Chaster, that picture clearly shows a steal beam being turned into dust. The dust was everywhere because EVERYTHING was turning to dust. The steal beam is there one minute and gone the next.

What I might believe is totally irrelevant.

The cars were totaled, mangled, melted and instantly rusted. Glass in some were completely gone. The ones that were not turned into dust probably did not get a direct hit of whatever it was. There may have been some that were turned into dust but of course you would not be able to find them would you?

Just like they did not find any dead bodies, or anything else that was in those buildings. They found nothing. 200 elevators in each building, probably 500 - 1000 toilets, plumbing, furniture, etc. Nothing was found ... except one part of a single file cabinet.. melted.

Explain that before you start asking me about why the cars were not turned into dust. geeeeze.


yea, i'm sure those desks and toilets were made to withstand 1000's of tons of pressure...



There is no possible way they would have all been turned into fine dust. No possible way.

Where is the rubble people?


So you are saying if I dropped 1000s of tons of metal and cement from hunderds of feet up in the air onto a toilet it wouldnt be reduced to nothing? What exactly would happen? What is your knowledge based off of?

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Thu 09/22/11 11:42 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 09/22/11 11:43 AM



As someone that used to watch a discovery channel or history channel show on non lethal weapons I recognize the first 3 of those pictures. The third one down is a basically a heating lamp on a humvee. Its called the Active Denial System and you can look it up. The LA police department said they were gonna start using them in prisons. Some buildings have them with motion sensors to keep thieves from breaking in by cutting their fences.

I the top 2 look like the sonic weapon I saw on the show. Basically using heat to compress the air in a targeted location to create a sonic boom at an intensity loud enough to make everyone in the area pass out. The object was to be able to infiltrate an are where enemies were hiding among civilians with little harm to the civilian population. Yes suck evil intentions.


Chaster I know what those weapons are. I looked them up. What do you think I put the pictures up there for?

I know all about the Active Denial System. It is soft soaped as being a "crowd control device." It distributes a lot of PAIN to crowds of people. BUT what they don't tell you is that they have weapons that can do much more than that. They have weapons that can totally blind an entire crowd, and that can kill people, melt cars etc. They have tested these weapons in Iraq.



No they don't have that. That technology doesn't exist sorry.


Yes it does!
But I'm sure they didn't send you a memo.
ITS CLASSIFIED.

Tell the doctors and the victims and the witnesses in Iraq that it does not exist. They will look at you as if your are crazy.

Don't be so sure. If it "did not exist" what did the US spend a half billion dollars developing? Did you read the unclassified report I posted?

Now, imagine what the classified reports will say.

Have you noticed how much stuff is classified? Have you served in the military? I have relatives in the military working in classified areas and they can't tell anyone anything.


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Thu 09/22/11 11:49 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 09/22/11 11:53 AM





This is a moving gif image showing a steel beam turning to dust and collapsing. This dust was all over the area of the trade center. Some of the dust also remained in the upper atmosphere. The whole area was covered with inches of this dust. The rubble from the 110 story towers amounted to only about 2% of the mass of the buildings.

110 stories. Offices with furniture, bathrooms, over 200 elevators, 400 toilets at least had to be in that building. No broken parts were found. No file cabinets were found, not very many steel beams were actually found, no chunks of concrete were found. They were all "dustified."

Not normal.





it's not normal that you can't see the forest for the trees... all the dust was coming from BELOW the beams, which we can clearly see in your pictures... do you really think they have something that turns steel into dust? So by what you are saying, you think they used 3 or 4 weapons on the WTC? The bombs, planes, and 2 different kinds of energy weapons, one that melts steel and another that turns it(steel) into dust? the cars were not turned into dust, why is that?



Chaster, that picture clearly shows a steal beam being turned into dust. The dust was everywhere because EVERYTHING was turning to dust. The steal beam is there one minute and gone the next.

What I might believe is totally irrelevant.

The cars were totaled, mangled, melted and instantly rusted. Glass in some were completely gone. The ones that were not turned into dust probably did not get a direct hit of whatever it was. There may have been some that were turned into dust but of course you would not be able to find them would you?

Just like they did not find any dead bodies, or anything else that was in those buildings. They found nothing. 200 elevators in each building, probably 500 - 1000 toilets, plumbing, furniture, etc. Nothing was found ... except one part of a single file cabinet.. melted.

Explain that before you start asking me about why the cars were not turned into dust. geeeeze.


yea, i'm sure those desks and toilets were made to withstand 1000's of tons of pressure...



There is no possible way they would have all been turned into fine dust. No possible way.

Where is the rubble people?


So you are saying if I dropped 1000s of tons of metal and cement from hunderds of feet up in the air onto a toilet it wouldnt be reduced to nothing? What exactly would happen? What is your knowledge based off of?


The 110 floors of the world trade center were said to have fallen one on top of another, in succession. Toilets did not drop from hundreds of feet to the ground. There were 1000's of toilets, file cabinets, furniture, plumbing, steal beams filled with concrete, windows, elevators etc. There is NO WAY possible that they were all turned into fine dust from that collapse.

I have seen demolitions of much smaller buildings while living in Las Vegas and there was tons of rubble and concrete to be hauled away afterwards. And a lot of the contents of these buildings had the stuff inside removed before hand. They did not create a dust cloud that went up into the upper atmosphere either, and the dust cleared very quickly.

Don't start making this personal and asking me what my knowledge is based on just because you call yourself an engineer. All one has to have is COMMON SENSE and a moderate amount of reasoning ability.

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Thu 09/22/11 11:59 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 09/22/11 12:03 PM
If anyone reading this does have education in engineering knowledge and thinks they can explain these things, (and I mean explain, not belittle others)then I welcome your input.

But use some common sense and use what you know to try to figure out what happened, not to belittle others who may not have a degree in engineering like you.

If the evidence for high energy weapons of some kind is there, don't just say they don't exist so its impossible.

Lots of things exist that you don't know about. Technology exists that is way above the heads of even our finest scientific minds and generals. Just because you don't understand it or don't believe it, don't go blind and say it does not exist. Apparently it does. People have died from it in Iraq. Dr Judy Wood provided a link to download a video with interviews of doctors in Iraq who treated people and recovered bodies.

It exists, they are testing it.

I don't know who may have used it on the twin towers. It could have been our own people involved, or it could have been some other powerful group. We are not the only country who are developing these energy weapons. Russian, China, Israel, etc.may all have programs like this.

Don't just say it does not exist so it must be impossible.

Explain what happened to the buildings and where is the rubble?




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Thu 09/22/11 12:15 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 09/22/11 12:18 PM
well, good luck with your research, i'm sure between you and a few others in here will figure out the big conspiracy, and make the government stop lying to us...


As long as there are people who will continue to believe everything they are told, they will continue to build their web of lies.

People just have to stop listening to and reacting to the lies. THEY ARE LIES.

Yes, there are hundreds of people who want the truth, and will figure out the big conspiracy of lies. So do them a favor and stop belittling them. Don't kill the messengers. Help them expose the lies or find the truth if you care.

If you don't care then just get out of their way. They will find the truth.

Instead of attacking the "truthers" try investigating the Liars and make them prove their story. Tell them to declassify everything. You can't ask them questions because they won't answer you. They will say "THAT'S CLASSIFIED" or you can't know that because of "NATIONAL SECURITY."

Go ahead. Ask them to answer some questions. You won't get anywhere.

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