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Topic: Air Force pursuing antimatter weapons
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Tue 09/20/11 07:01 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 09/20/11 07:09 PM
9/11 documentary evidence of use of directed energy weapons at WTC

1. Seismic Record: “The energy budget recorded in the seismic record on the day of 9/11 and the collapse of the WTC buildings did not reflect the mass of building materials involved in the collapse, nor the nearly freefall of the collapsing buildings. The seismic record demonstrates an event on the scale of a quarry blast. Where was the thud [that would have accompanied a WTC building collapse]?”

2. Kinetic Energy: “Two robust WTC buildings with very robust steel beam reinforcement would release a sizeable amount of kinetic energy from the buildings falling – that would be all of the energy that went into the construction of the WTC buildings. The release of that amount of kinetic energy is not reflected in the physical evidence on the seismic record. Into what physical process did that kinetic energy go?”

3. Molecular Dissociation: “The collapse of the WTC buildings produced the highest mass per volume of very fine particles (nanoparticles) ever measured in an air sample in the United States. It takes a tremendous amount of energy to dissociate or break the molecular bonds of steel, concrete and other building materials that were “powdered” into very fine particles during the collapse of the buildings. The largest mass per volume of metals ever measured in an air sample in the US were reported by Dr. Thomas Cahill who did air monitoring for 5 months. Metal is used in buildings because it is very strong – and would require large amounts of energy to reduce it to nanoparticles. Chemical explosives do not release enough energy to produce that volume of very fine particles. A much more energetic process was involved such as laser or beam energy which releases focused and concentrated energy as complex waveforms necessary to cause molecular dissociation.”

4. Physical Evidence of Buildings Collapsing: “In videos of the collapses on 9/11 the WTC buildings erupted into emulsion like a drinking fountain, and the rubble did not hit the ground. Even on tape huge pieces of aluminum building siding vaporized as they were freefalling, and never hit the ground.”

5. Controlled Demolition: “The [collapse of the WTC buildings] was not a 'controlled demolition' for the following reasons:

WTC Detritus Pile - “Should have been 1/3 the height of the WTC buildings. The 100+ story WTC buildings were about 1 story high when the collapse of the buildings ended. A fireman on one of the news videos said the antenna that had been on the top of WTC Building 1 was on the top of a pile of rubble about one story high. The rubble pile should have been 35 stories if it was a conventional controlled demolition.”

WTC Rubble Never Hit the Ground – “This defies gravity, where did the rubble go?”

Footprints – “Geometrically Round Holes:contiguous round holes 24’ in diameter were in the footprints of the WTC buildings 1 and 2, and a 60’ deep geometrically round hole was in the middle of Liberty Street near the WTC. This is evidence of beam weapons. There was no debris inside the footprints of the two WTC buildings, only bare dirt with circles in the dirt.”

Dust - “In videos of the collapse larger particles fell and cascaded down from the buildings under the forces of gravity, but before they hit the ground they vaporized and suddenly went up into the atmosphere like an antigravity demonstration. Nanoparticles are so tiny that they are not subject to the forces of gravity, so molecular dissociation occurred on the larger particles as they were freefalling, reducing them into nano-particles (0.1 microns in diameter and smaller) that suddenly obeyed other physical laws of quantum mechanics. More evidence of [directed energy weapon or] HAARP/beam weapon technology applied during collapse.”

9/11 Satellite photos - “[9/11 satellite photographs showed] dust going into upper atmosphere –which had to be nanoparticles and may have been enhanced by other technology because most very fine particles/dust would stay in the Troposphere and be rained out in 2 months as we know from depleted uranium particulate releases from battlefield already.”

1400 Toasted Cars - “Located blocks from the WTC buildings, with door handles missing, engine blocks missing, blistering on some parts of the car finish, strange rust patterns on the bodies of the cars.”

Paper Around Cars Not Burned - "Whatever ‘vaporized’ the engine blocks and the door handles on 1400 cars did not ignite fragile and flammable paper lying all over the ground around the cars. If engine blocks and door handles selectively vaporized, why didn’t body of car vaporize?”

Pile of Cars Spontaneously Combusted - “In a news video, the entire pile of cars started burning spontaneously at the same time with no visible cause, it was not a fire that started in one car and spread to others.”

Rust Occurred Immediately - “On cars and trucks, and in FEMA photos there was heavy rust on steel beams – steel does not rust, and it is a slow oxidation process that results in rusting of iron. This rusting happened immediately.”

Basements Of WTC Buildings Undamaged - “Stuffed mannequins in the basement of WTC with clothing on were carried out of the basement undamaged. If a 100+-story WTC building collapsed into its basement and left a 35-story rubble pile, there would be nothing left in the basement. Even streetcars underground at the WTC were pulled out after the collapse and had no damage.”

Prof. Cahill Air Monitoring Samples - “The hardest and most durable materials vaporized (steel, concrete etc), and the most fragile materials (paper) cascading out of WTC windows and all over the ground for blocks were undamaged.”

Truckloads of Potting Soil - “Right after the WTC disaster, the ground was “fuming”, and sequential FEMA aerial photos show 130 dump trucks full of soil (filled almost to the top of the dump truck space) covered with tarps so that the dirt in the trucks was not visible to onlookers on the street, coming into the WTC area, dumping the soil and going out for more. This happened even before the rescues or cleanup started and it continued for some time. The piles of soil were left for a week and got higher each day in sequential photos. The soil ‘fuming’ lasted until March 2002 (8 months).”

Boots Disintegrated – “Boots on emergency responders disintegrated after 2 hours. They had to get new boots every 2 hours – an effect of molecular dissociation. It was not from burning, their skin would have been damaged.”

No Ground Fuming During Rain - “For 99 days the “burning” (fuming) continued at the WTC site, but when it rained there was no fuming. If it had been fires burning, the rain would have caused steam from heating rainwater.”

USGS: Iron versus Steel - “The USGS analyzed the mineral form of the rust on steel beams and iron objects at the WTC. They did not address the ‘steel does not rust’ issue, but dodged it by referring to the rusted steel beams in the rubble pile as ‘iron beams’ and gave mineral analyses of iron minerals produced by oxidation.”

Official Sample Data Not Reliable – “Spectral absorption images at the WTC indicated average particle size was about 1 micron, which is subjected to gravity and would have fallen with the collapsed buildings. USGS did not collect many dust samples and collecting samples by other different agencies did not agree with each other. No samples were taken at the toasted cars.”

Directed Energy Weapon Evidence- “Evidence of use of a directed energy weapon was present at the top of the WTC buildings as ‘lathering up’ started before buildings started coming down. ‘Lathering up’ in videos preceded the collapse of all buildings, even Building 7 which supposedly Larry Silverstein when he said, 'Pull it' to firefighters meant controlled demolition. Color alteration and modification in news videos compared to other photos/videos at tops of buildings indicates “doctoring” of images. When the Seattle Dome was destroyed with controlled demolition, the dust created by the destruction did not get any higher than the top of the building. The WTC dust got into the upper atmosphere almost immediately – which indicates very tiny atmospheric dust sized particles (0.1 micron and smaller), in fact smaller than atmospheric dust that stays mainly in the Troposphere.

“Lathering Up” Incriminating - “WTC Building 7 ‘lathered up’ even before WTC Building 2 went down. WTC Building 7 not damaged at all by WTC Building 2 going down – right next to each other.”

Freon tanks - “Very odd, large tanks were removed from WTC building and OSHA made bogus statement about what and why they were removed. Was freon used in WTC takedown? A NYC cop whom the researcher met with Cindy Sheehan said he was injured in WTC Building 7 and removed on a gurney, but his eyes were covered so he could not see anything as they left the building. He reported he was able to see dead bodies lying all over the floor as he was being carried out – before building 7 had collapsed. Was this due to Freon asphyxiation put through ventilation system like in a recent Russian submarine disaster?



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Tue 09/20/11 07:03 PM



i'm not sure i understand the point to this post...people have been making weapons for around 100,000 years already... so now they are a bit more technical.


The point she is making the government uses them for evil. That's the point.


evil is just a word, they are weapons, what to weapons do? help win wars, help keep the peace...and create jobs...



It is not only our country who are developing these types of weapons. We are apparently still in an arms race to destroy each other.

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Tue 09/20/11 07:06 PM




i'm not sure i understand the point to this post...people have been making weapons for around 100,000 years already... so now they are a bit more technical.


The point she is making the government uses them for evil. That's the point.


evil is just a word, they are weapons, what to weapons do? help win wars, help keep the peace...and create jobs...



It is not only our country who are developing these types of weapons. We are apparently still in an arms race to destroy each other.


the best thing that ever happened to weapons of mass destudtion was other countrys having them... balance of power

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Tue 09/20/11 07:11 PM
Yay we can equally destroy each other.

(I remember when we were all for disarmament peace treaties.)

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Tue 09/20/11 07:15 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 09/20/11 07:21 PM

I would explain the reality of these weapons to you but you, once again, have created your own reality and would not be interested in the truth.


Furthermore, I am linking to credible and alternative news sources and government documents to download, if anyone is interested in reading them.

I finished reading the one I linked to in this thread and it is a reality that belongs to ALL OF US, not just my "own reality."

(Why do you always have to get personal? Please don't do that. If you are just going to get personal please stay out of this thread.)




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Tue 09/20/11 07:15 PM

Yay we can equally destroy each other.

(I remember when we were all for disarmament peace treaties.)


70 years of nukes, and we are still alive...i don't see these weapons being worse than those...

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Tue 09/20/11 07:18 PM


Yay we can equally destroy each other.

(I remember when we were all for disarmament peace treaties.)


70 years of nukes, and we are still alive...i don't see these weapons being worse than those...


Not all of us are still alive. A lot of people have died.

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Tue 09/20/11 07:20 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 09/20/11 07:24 PM
Anyway, support your local government they will keep you safe.

Maybe.waving

Goodnight folks. I gotta get off of this computer and go to work again in the real world.tongue2

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Tue 09/20/11 07:29 PM

i'm not sure i understand the point to this post...people have been making weapons for around 100,000 years already... so now they are a bit more technical.



The point is that these weapons exist and appear to have had a hand in the weird stuff that Dr. Judy Wood discovered in New York concerning the manner in which the twin towers were destroyed. I think she is onto something.

Then someone made fun of me as if to imply that this kind of technology does not exist.

It does exist. They continue to test it on humans.

That's the point.

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Wed 09/21/11 01:35 AM
This isn't quite related to the topic, but here's ANOTHER example of secrecy from them.

http://news.yahoo.com/u-builds-drone-bases-africa-arab-peninsula-report-044158461.html

At what point are we gonna start to say we've had enough of this?

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Wed 09/21/11 05:14 AM


I would explain the reality of these weapons to you but you, once again, have created your own reality and would not be interested in the truth.


Furthermore, I am linking to credible and alternative news sources and government documents to download, if anyone is interested in reading them.

I finished reading the one I linked to in this thread and it is a reality that belongs to ALL OF US, not just my "own reality."

(Why do you always have to get personal? Please don't do that. If you are just going to get personal please stay out of this thread.)






You are, once again, posting false information as fact. The US does not have the ability to produce particle weapons. The US military has a 10 kw laser which is a directed energy weapon, but is low power and is used to explode IUDs and unexploded shells.

The military also has a microwave transmitter that can be used for crowd control. The radiation heats the skin and causes discomfort. It was designed as a non-lethal weapon as it does not have the power or range to be of much use in combat.

The Air Force has worked on a mw scale laser in an airborne vehicle for years but shut down the program as a suitable power source was as yet unavailable. There were other problems as well.

An antimatter weapon is many decades away, if ever. Some research has been done on containment but even that is insignificant. Most antimatter containment is done at CERN.

The US Navy is investigating a laser weapon for onboard ship use since ships have huge power supplies. The intent of the weapon is the ability to shoot down incoming missiles.

Your comments and evidence of energy weapons used on 9/11 are simply ridiculous.

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Wed 09/21/11 06:14 AM



I would explain the reality of these weapons to you but you, once again, have created your own reality and would not be interested in the truth.


Furthermore, I am linking to credible and alternative news sources and government documents to download, if anyone is interested in reading them.

I finished reading the one I linked to in this thread and it is a reality that belongs to ALL OF US, not just my "own reality."

(Why do you always have to get personal? Please don't do that. If you are just going to get personal please stay out of this thread.)






You are, once again, posting false information as fact. The US does not have the ability to produce particle weapons. The US military has a 10 kw laser which is a directed energy weapon, but is low power and is used to explode IUDs and unexploded shells.

The military also has a microwave transmitter that can be used for crowd control. The radiation heats the skin and causes discomfort. It was designed as a non-lethal weapon as it does not have the power or range to be of much use in combat.

The Air Force has worked on a mw scale laser in an airborne vehicle for years but shut down the program as a suitable power source was as yet unavailable. There were other problems as well.

An antimatter weapon is many decades away, if ever. Some research has been done on containment but even that is insignificant. Most antimatter containment is done at CERN.

The US Navy is investigating a laser weapon for onboard ship use since ships have huge power supplies. The intent of the weapon is the ability to shoot down incoming missiles.

Your comments and evidence of energy weapons used on 9/11 are simply ridiculous.


laugh

WORD.


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Wed 09/21/11 10:29 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 09/21/11 10:46 AM



I would explain the reality of these weapons to you but you, once again, have created your own reality and would not be interested in the truth.


Furthermore, I am linking to credible and alternative news sources and government documents to download, if anyone is interested in reading them.

I finished reading the one I linked to in this thread and it is a reality that belongs to ALL OF US, not just my "own reality."

(Why do you always have to get personal? Please don't do that. If you are just going to get personal please stay out of this thread.)






You are, once again, posting false information as fact. The US does not have the ability to produce particle weapons. The US military has a 10 kw laser which is a directed energy weapon, but is low power and is used to explode IUDs and unexploded shells.

The military also has a microwave transmitter that can be used for crowd control. The radiation heats the skin and causes discomfort. It was designed as a non-lethal weapon as it does not have the power or range to be of much use in combat.

The Air Force has worked on a mw scale laser in an airborne vehicle for years but shut down the program as a suitable power source was as yet unavailable. There were other problems as well.

An antimatter weapon is many decades away, if ever. Some research has been done on containment but even that is insignificant. Most antimatter containment is done at CERN.

The US Navy is investigating a laser weapon for onboard ship use since ships have huge power supplies. The intent of the weapon is the ability to shoot down incoming missiles.

Your comments and evidence of energy weapons used on 9/11 are simply ridiculous.


The evidence of energy weapons used on 9/11 is not my evidence. You can have any opinion about that you want, but the evidence is there. A plane crashing into the 94th floor of a 110 story building did not cause that kind of damage. Cars were melted, the building was turned into dust.

"Nanoparticles are so tiny that they are not subject to the forces of gravity, so molecular dissociation occurred on the larger particles as they were freefalling, reducing them into nano-particles (0.1 microns in diameter and smaller) that suddenly obeyed other physical laws of quantum mechanics. More evidence of [directed energy weapon or] HAARP/beam weapon technology applied during collapse.”


Laser weapons mentioned do exist and are being tested.

Antimatter weapons are being researched. How many decades away they are or if they will ever have and/or use them is unknown. Things like that are always CLASSIFIED.

What kind of weapons they actually have NOW and are testing has not been made public it is CLASSIFIED. But people in Iraq have used them and seen them in action. But don't expect to get a memo on it.

They are not simply "investigating" the use of these weapons. They have spent about a half billion dollars developing them, testing them etc. That is more than "investigating."

The information I post on this site is for people who are interested. They can come to their own conclusions about it.

The link to the government report on these weapons is real and unclassified. If that is unclassified, I can only begin to imagine what is actually still classified.

Your opinions are noted, but I don't agree that these weapons are not being used. I watched a video tape where Donald Rumsfeld acknowledge that they do exist and that they are "probably" being tested and used. Both people pretended that they had no control over that, or did not know much about it, but I could tell they just didn't want to talk about it. That makes me wonder. Maybe they do and maybe they don't, but either way that's a scary prospect. They did not go into any details.

There are several different kind of weapons being developed and tested. The military wants to buy up OUR land and OUR town and OUR free ranges and farming land in Colorado just for use in training and testing these new weapons. Our farmers and ranchers are constantly fighting court battles to keep and preserve our land. This is not fantasy, this is our reality.

I think some kind of high energy weapon was used on 9-11. There is plenty of evidence to support that. It is certainly not a"ridiculous" idea.

The rusting of steel, the cars, the dust, the lack of enough debris can't be explained by "physics."

People's boots disintegrating in two hours can't be explained either, when paper was not even burned. A lot of the damage cannot be explained.

The aftermath of 9-11 has sickened and killed more people. Later the clean up crews don't just wear masks, they wore respirators in order to work there for extended periods.






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Wed 09/21/11 05:21 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 09/21/11 05:23 PM
The US pursuit of Direct Energy Weapons follows three paths, each developing at
a unique rate. The three primary technologies being followed as direct energy weapons
include Lasers, Millimeter Waves, and Microwaves. Laser technologies receive the most
attention in both the budget and the press.


The US Air Force currently pursues a number of Laser weapons including the Airborne Laser (ABL), Advanced Tactical Laser (ATL)
and the Personnel Halting and Stimulation Response (PHaSR).

These Laser weapons exist in various stages of development, but none are fielded.

The millimeter wave system produced by the Air Force is the Active Denial System (ADS); the Navy developed the Neutralizing IEDs with Radio Frequencies (NIRF) system.

Microwave weapon systems are the least developed branch of the Direct Energy weapons trio.

The Department of Defense (DoD) does not currently advertise the development of any weaponized microwave systems, however developmental experiments continue.

In addition to these more mature systems, the services continue to pursue technologies and need a methodology to help determine which ones will bear the most fruit.

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Wed 09/21/11 06:09 PM



i'm not sure i understand the point to this post...people have been making weapons for around 100,000 years already... so now they are a bit more technical.


The point she is making the government uses them for evil. That's the point.


evil is just a word, they are weapons, what to weapons do? help win wars, help keep the peace...and create jobs...

I've got nothing against weapons in private hands. It's when governments get hold of them that they are most often used as tools for merchants of death. Who else but governments would turn everyday useful things like vehicles into delivery systems for carnage against innocent people thousands of miles away (and grossly overpay for it, too).

Your knee-jerk answer would probably be "the terrorists", but no. You'll never find a "terrorist" flying a stealth bomber, dropping napalm on civilians, or blowing up other people's infrastructures with tanks and mortars. Besides, the militants who have an interest in attacking US targets is because of decades of US intervention/occupation.

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Wed 09/21/11 07:53 PM
Edited by Kleisto on Wed 09/21/11 07:53 PM

You'll never find a "terrorist" flying a stealth bomber, dropping napalm on civilians, or blowing up other people's infrastructures with tanks and mortars. Besides, the militants who have an interest in attacking US targets is because of decades of US intervention/occupation.


In fact to that end it is been said that we PROVOKED pearl harbor so we would have a reason to go to war. When it comes to stuff like this you must always consider who has the most to gain from war, and usually it's those in the highest offices of the land that do either financially or politically.

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Wed 09/21/11 08:21 PM
What kind of weapon can cause steel beams to turn to dust?





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Wed 09/21/11 08:46 PM




i'm not sure i understand the point to this post...people have been making weapons for around 100,000 years already... so now they are a bit more technical.


The point she is making the government uses them for evil. That's the point.


evil is just a word, they are weapons, what to weapons do? help win wars, help keep the peace...and create jobs...

I've got nothing against weapons in private hands. It's when governments get hold of them that they are most often used as tools for merchants of death. Who else but governments would turn everyday useful things like vehicles into delivery systems for carnage against innocent people thousands of miles away (and grossly overpay for it, too).

Your knee-jerk answer would probably be "the terrorists", but no. You'll never find a "terrorist" flying a stealth bomber, dropping napalm on civilians, or blowing up other people's infrastructures with tanks and mortars. Besides, the militants who have an interest in attacking US targets is because of decades of US intervention/occupation.


it's called war, or police action if you will...i have no problem making any weapon they want, as long as other countries are not using them on people over here... and those weapons are what keeps that from happening over here. progress is going to happen, no matter how much people want to cry about secrets and lies, and progress is a good thing. without progress, we would still be living in trees and caves, if we would even still be here. Other counties would not hesitate using anything they can to win, but we shouldn't?

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Wed 09/21/11 08:49 PM

What kind of weapon can cause steel beams to turn to dust?







i know your not that blind, even you should know that the dust comes from everything around the steel, not from it. and how do you know the silo was empty?

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Wed 09/21/11 09:48 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 09/21/11 09:56 PM
mightymo,

The silo is not relevant. Behind the silo is a steel beam. That steel beam turns to dust and blows away. These are pictures of that happening. It has nothing to do with the silo. Look at the four pictures. The steel beam turns to dust.

Here (below) is a close up of a steel beam that survived 9-11 and was taken from the towers. There were 110 stories in those buildings. If the buildings fell, one floor on top of another floor, as described in the official report, the rubble should have been at least 6 stories high. It wasn't.

There were no toilets, elevators, wires, office furniture, plumbing, desks, couches, chairs.... NOTHING WAS FOUND IN THE RUBBLE.

It all turned to dust, and that can't happen from just falling. Geeeze I can't believe people think this is normal. frustrated Are you kidding me?

There was nothing left of the buildings and the WTC dust got into the upper atmosphere almost immediately – which indicates very tiny atmospheric dust sized particles (0.1 micron and smaller), in fact smaller than atmospheric dust that stays mainly in the Troposphere.

And this is what an airplane was supposed to have flown through like paper. An aluminum airplane went through these beams... like it was going through air.

Really? I don't think so.

So they are telling people that the wings of an airplane cut through and severed these kinds of steel beams and disappeared inside of the building without any parts of the plane falling. It all went inside. I don't believe that for a second.





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