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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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I don't "fear fire." I simply have some knowledge of its destructive powers touche I dont 'fear hell' or 'fear death' , I simply have knowledge of its destructive powers its a thin line between having no interest in experiencing something and FEARING It I have no interest in experiencing ETERNAL Death, whether it be by hell or in a grave I think MANY people deemed 'religious' would say the same thing as to being controlled and not being able to change things those are also qualities I could easily apply to many things in our life, but still would not conclude that it is merely a reaction to 'fear' as if there is no logic or reason to it,,, msharmony, You cannot experience "eternal death" because you are DEAD. Therefore, there is no experience to be had, other than dying. There is nothing fearful about actually being dead... unless you believe in some sort of life after death that might not be pleasant... (like Hell.) Also, you can't possibly have any knowledge of Hell's destructive powers because you haven't seen it or been there. You don't even know if it exists other than from what you have heard from religions that preach about it. I'm afraid of dying because I like living, but I know that I am going to die someday and I can't do anything about it. I just hope its not too painful.  I'm not afraid of hell because I don't believe in it -- and even if it does exist, I don't plan to go there after I die. Its a big universe and I'm sure there are better places than Hell and even Heaven.  |
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I don't "fear fire." I simply have some knowledge of its destructive powers touche I dont 'fear hell' or 'fear death' , I simply have knowledge of its destructive powers its a thin line between having no interest in experiencing something and FEARING It I have no interest in experiencing ETERNAL Death, whether it be by hell or in a grave I think MANY people deemed 'religious' would say the same thing as to being controlled and not being able to change things those are also qualities I could easily apply to many things in our life, but still would not conclude that it is merely a reaction to 'fear' as if there is no logic or reason to it,,, msharmony, You cannot experience "eternal death" because you are DEAD. Therefore, there is no experience to be had, other than dying. There is nothing fearful about actually being dead... unless you believe in some sort of life after death that might not be pleasant... (like Hell.) Also, you can't possibly have any knowledge of Hell's destructive powers because you haven't seen it or been there. You don't even know if it exists other than from what you have heard from religions that preach about it. I'm afraid of dying because I like living, but I know that I am going to die someday and I can't do anything about it. I just hope its not too painful. I'm not afraid of hell because I don't believe in it -- and even if it does exist, I don't plan to go there after I die. Its a big universe and I'm sure there are better places than Hell and even Heaven. I have also not experienced an abusive parent, but I know I dont wish to experience it because I rather appreciate the parents I have likewise, I know I dont want to be ETERNALLY dead, because I rather appreciate 'living' |
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I am 62 years old and my opinion is from my personal experience and it is just as valid as yours. Why do you think that your opinion is any better than anyone else? Because you go to church? BAH! If you look at any successful business person in any small town, 9 time out of 10 they are members of a large church in that town, and they also get involved in other community groups. No, they don't do business at church, but they make friends. Friends that do eventually become customers. There are many people who will refuse to do business with someone they don't trust or don't like. That's just the way it is. Whether they are religious believers or not, you will find them there in church. If you live in a very small town, like I do, these things are a lot easier to spot. In larger cities, it is not so noticeable. Your opinion is your opinion but it is incorrect. Just because many successful business people go to one church or another this does not imply that people go to church for business purposes.  It is faulty logic. Churchgoers and non-churchgoers are both successful in business. In a larger city this is more obvious in a tiny rural community the perspective may be skewed by the limited social scene. Like you said, people don't do business with untrustworthy people it does not matter if they go to church or not! |
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Stop with the personal attacks. If you can't debate the topic in a civil manner, then please don't debate.
Keep the debate on the topic and not make attacks toward members. Kim |
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I am 62 years old and my opinion is from my personal experience and it is just as valid as yours. Why do you think that your opinion is any better than anyone else? Because you go to church? BAH! If you look at any successful business person in any small town, 9 time out of 10 they are members of a large church in that town, and they also get involved in other community groups. No, they don't do business at church, but they make friends. Friends that do eventually become customers. There are many people who will refuse to do business with someone they don't trust or don't like. That's just the way it is. Whether they are religious believers or not, you will find them there in church. If you live in a very small town, like I do, these things are a lot easier to spot. In larger cities, it is not so noticeable. Your opinion is your opinion but it is incorrect. Just because many successful business people go to one church or another this does not imply that people go to church for business purposes. It is faulty logic. Churchgoers and non-churchgoers are both successful in business. In a larger city this is more obvious in a tiny rural community the perspective may be skewed by the limited social scene. Like you said, people don't do business with untrustworthy people it does not matter if they go to church or not! Opinions are not correct or incorrect, they are simply opinions. You can agree with them or not. I interviewed many businessmen, and business owners and have read many books on starting and running a successful business and this is where I get my information for my opinions. |
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I expect those attending church merely for 'business' connections are an extreme minority
I go to congregate and hear about God and sometimes its not easy for me to sit through,,,lol, let alone to be dedicated to joining or attending something so passionate and be amongst so many impassioned people for something that I had no real passion for myself I just dont imagine that happens often, but not to say it never does |
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I am 62 years old and my opinion is from my personal experience and it is just as valid as yours. Why do you think that your opinion is any better than anyone else? Because you go to church? BAH! If you look at any successful business person in any small town, 9 time out of 10 they are members of a large church in that town, and they also get involved in other community groups. No, they don't do business at church, but they make friends. Friends that do eventually become customers. There are many people who will refuse to do business with someone they don't trust or don't like. That's just the way it is. Whether they are religious believers or not, you will find them there in church. If you live in a very small town, like I do, these things are a lot easier to spot. In larger cities, it is not so noticeable. Your opinion is your opinion but it is incorrect. Just because many successful business people go to one church or another this does not imply that people go to church for business purposes. It is faulty logic. Churchgoers and non-churchgoers are both successful in business. In a larger city this is more obvious in a tiny rural community the perspective may be skewed by the limited social scene. Like you said, people don't do business with untrustworthy people it does not matter if they go to church or not! Opinions are not correct or incorrect, they are simply opinions. You can agree with them or not. I interviewed many businessmen, and business owners and have read many books on starting and running a successful business and this is where I get my information for my opinions. Opinions are incorrect all the time. One opinion with evidence to back it up certainly can be true while another opinion with no evidence to substantiate it can be false. Any two opinions are not equal! One person has the opinion that the leaves on trees are green because there are little green fairies who live in them. Another person has the opinion that it's chlorophyll. The first opinion is simply false whereas the second informed opinion is true. One can agree or disagree but they are not equally valid. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Sun 09/18/11 05:06 PM
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While facts can be declared true or false, opinions are just opinions.
An actual fact is not an opinion, but the opinion that a declared fact is true or false(not a fact) is an opinion. Think about that a while. |
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While facts can be declared true or false, opinions are just opinions. An actual fact is not an opinion, but the opinion that a declared fact is true or false(not a fact) is an opinion. Think about that a while. 
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Nah. Your premise is wrong. Religion in general is not based on fear most religions do not believe in heaven and hell. Buddhism and Hinduism, Judaism and Taoism for example do not believe in heaven and hell in these religions one is rewarded spiritually by being ethical, just and kind. Terrorism is the new holy war. Like the Crusades and Inquisition except terrorism today is based on Islam. Terrorism is not a religion itself but extortion in the name of Islam.  Religious intolerance of spiritual principles. 
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Edited by
highflyer14
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Sun 09/18/11 08:07 PM
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"We attacked two countries on the other side of the world to make us safer...Our military budget has doubled in 10 years, mainly to help fight terrorism....."
I say that the imperialist US engineered attack on Libya now shows that they are the greatest terrorists in the world. |
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"We attacked two countries on the other side of the world to make us safer...Our military budget has doubled in 10 years, mainly to help fight terrorism....." I say that the imperialist US engineered attack on Libya now shows that they are the greatest terrorists in the world. And they have been for a long time. |
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"We attacked two countries on the other side of the world to make us safer...Our military budget has doubled in 10 years, mainly to help fight terrorism....." I say that the imperialist US engineered attack on Libya now shows that they are the greatest terrorists in the world. And they have been for a long time. |
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I would go to church with the religious friends and have gone with family but they don't invite me most of the time because they know how I feel.
I have no issue with a church or church goers at all until they get into politics and effect my life in anyway, then they become the enemy. There is nothing to fear for a non believer in a church. There is more to fear for a believer...lol Same with hell or a devil, non believers have nothing to fear but the believers do...lol |
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We have to keep going to war, its good business. Look at how many people would be out of work if it weren't for war.
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Edited by
msharmony
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Sun 09/18/11 11:01 PM
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"We attacked two countries on the other side of the world to make us safer...Our military budget has doubled in 10 years, mainly to help fight terrorism....." I say that the imperialist US engineered attack on Libya now shows that they are the greatest terrorists in the world. And they have been for a long time. I actually thought that was an airstrike engineered by the UN,,,,  and I bet plenty of LIBYANS are glad it happened, being their fatalities havent ended up like Iraqs and the pressure from the strike has seemed to nurture an atmosphere of political change ..... |
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Right because what peaceful, innocent people want is WAR in their country. Yeah that makes sense............
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"We attacked two countries on the other side of the world to make us safer... hell, we attacked more than two in ww2. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Mon 09/19/11 05:33 AM
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Right because what peaceful, innocent people want is WAR in their country. Yeah that makes sense............ I think 'peaceful' people are sometimes actually trying ot put an end to dictatorship and military rule and call it 'revolution' we had our own CIVIL war in our own country, because of a cause some felt worthy of fighting and dying for and whats happening in Libya isnt even that violent or deadly or really even a 'war' as far as us troops are concerned, where UN merely has troops and police PRESENT, but no real warfare is going on involving them I think many Libyans feel that way about their country and welcome any help they receive toward that purpose |
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religion
a : the state of a religious <a nun in her 20th year of religion> b (1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance 2: a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices 3archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness 4: a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith terrorism : the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion I dont personally see how terrorism could be considered a religion, except in the fourth context, which would also include ; nationalism, constitutionalism, mysticism, buddhism, or any other system of beliefs... although, people use many different ISMS to try to justify terrorizing others (see list above with the exception of buddhism,,lol) |
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