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religion a : the state of a religious <a nun in her 20th year of religion> b (1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance 2: a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices 3archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness 4: a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith terrorism : the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion I dont personally see how terrorism could be considered a religion, except in the fourth context, which would also include ; nationalism, constitutionalism, mysticism, buddhism, or any other system of beliefs... although, people use many different ISMS to try to justify terrorizing others (see list above with the exception of buddhism,,lol) Right on. 1. Terrorism is killing of innocent people. 2 Religion advocates sanctity of life and no religion advocates killing innocent people. Terrorism is the opposite of religion. 
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S1owhand, terrorism is not simply "the killing of innocent people." Once you are dead, you are no longer able to feel fear and you can not be terrorized. Only the living can be terrorized. The dead cannot be terrorized. terrorism : the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion. Threat of death is terrorism. Threat of violence is terrorism. Killing innocent people is just murder. |
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I actually thought that was an airstrike engineered by the UN,,,, Under the UN Charter, no country is allowed to carry out acts of aggression against another sovereign nation or interfere in its domestic affairs.The US has breached that obviously to control Libyan oil like they did in iraq.They have aided a small group of disgruntled elements to overthrow a legitimate govt.Who says democracy is the best form of govt? I think the world is being misinformed... |
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I actually thought that was an airstrike engineered by the UN,,,, the US led strikes in Sitre may have killed over 2000 unarmed civilians, according to reports; that is a war crime. The rebels are also executing blacks; that too is a war crime. Yet no one is executing warrants against them. I think the numbers of people so far killed in this war do not justify the outcome for the Libyans, and it may just spurn more hate towards the US by those aggrieved. |
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Right because what peaceful, innocent people want is WAR in their country. Yeah that makes sense............ I don't think that uprising was popular. God doesn't like injustice. I hope the US knows where it is headed with its cowboy mentality. |
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Right because what peaceful, innocent people want is WAR in their country. Yeah that makes sense............ I don't think that uprising was popular. God doesn't like injustice. I hope the US knows where it is headed with its cowboy mentality. Its the same old story. Globalization. The U.S has been infiltrated. It is no longer about Nationalism, its about spreading a kind of tyranny and calling it "democracy." Its Capitalism. The powers that run the world want a one world economy, and a one world power. They want to illuminate real money and replace it with air. (Digital money.) They do everything it takes to start and cause wars. They manipulate people, back coups, and commit genocide. People just need to realize this and stop participating in it. What is the military except some guy you don't know telling you to wack some other guy you don't know for some unknown reason. It is insane. Stop the insanity. |
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S1owhand, terrorism is not simply "the killing of innocent people." Once you are dead, you are no longer able to feel fear and you can not be terrorized. Only the living can be terrorized. The dead cannot be terrorized. terrorism : the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion. Threat of death is terrorism. Threat of violence is terrorism. Killing innocent people is just murder. The threat of violence or the threat of killing innocent people is empty unless it is carried out. Terrorism as we know it today involves carrying out the threat. Actual killing is involved. Killing of innocent people. So I stand by my assertion. Terrorism means the killing of innocent people. Cafe bombs, Bus bombs, firing missiles indiscriminately into homes, schools and businesses, hotel and subway bombings and flying planeloads of people and fuel into office buildings timed in such a way as to kill as many innocent men, women and children as possible. Let's not mince words. All religions of the world abhor and condemn these acts of Terrorism. That is why Religion is correctly seen as the opposite of Terrorism.
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S1owhand, terrorism is not simply "the killing of innocent people." Once you are dead, you are no longer able to feel fear and you can not be terrorized. Only the living can be terrorized. The dead cannot be terrorized. terrorism : the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion. Threat of death is terrorism. Threat of violence is terrorism. Killing innocent people is just murder. The threat of violence or the threat of killing innocent people is empty unless it is carried out. Terrorism as we know it today involves carrying out the threat. Actual killing is involved. Killing of innocent people. So I stand by my assertion. Terrorism means the killing of innocent people. Cafe bombs, Bus bombs, firing missiles indiscriminately into homes, schools and businesses, hotel and subway bombings and flying planeloads of people and fuel into office buildings timed in such a way as to kill as many innocent men, women and children as possible. Let's not mince words. All religions of the world abhor and condemn these acts of Terrorism. That is why Religion is correctly seen as the opposite of Terrorism. What about devil worship? 
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S1owhand, terrorism is not simply "the killing of innocent people." Once you are dead, you are no longer able to feel fear and you can not be terrorized. Only the living can be terrorized. The dead cannot be terrorized. terrorism : the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion. Threat of death is terrorism. Threat of violence is terrorism. Killing innocent people is just murder. The threat of violence or the threat of killing innocent people is empty unless it is carried out. Terrorism as we know it today involves carrying out the threat. Actual killing is involved. Killing of innocent people. So I stand by my assertion. Terrorism means the killing of innocent people. Cafe bombs, Bus bombs, firing missiles indiscriminately into homes, schools and businesses, hotel and subway bombings and flying planeloads of people and fuel into office buildings timed in such a way as to kill as many innocent men, women and children as possible. Let's not mince words. All religions of the world abhor and condemn these acts of Terrorism. That is why Religion is correctly seen as the opposite of Terrorism. What about devil worship?
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Right because what peaceful, innocent people want is WAR in their country. Yeah that makes sense............ I don't think that uprising was popular. God doesn't like injustice. I hope the US knows where it is headed with its cowboy mentality. I have read other sources where Libyans are posting otherwise. That this revolution is long overdue and they have waited years for someone to help them and noone would. |
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Edited by
s1owhand
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Mon 09/19/11 06:03 PM
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What about devil worship? I don't really consider that to be a religion! More like an anti-religion. 
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Edited by
msharmony
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Mon 09/19/11 05:57 PM
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I actually thought that was an airstrike engineered by the UN,,,, Under the UN Charter, no country is allowed to carry out acts of aggression against another sovereign nation or interfere in its domestic affairs.The US has breached that obviously to control Libyan oil like they did in iraq.They have aided a small group of disgruntled elements to overthrow a legitimate govt.Who says democracy is the best form of govt? I think the world is being misinformed... March 17: The UN Security Council gives permission to impose a “no-fly zone” over Libyan airspace. It also authorises military action to be taken for the protection of civilians from Gaddafi’s army. March 19: The first air strikes are launched in Libya to impede the progress of Gaddafi’s forces on Benghazi. March 28: Qatar becomes the first Arab nation to recognise the National Transitional Council (NTC). March 30: Libyan Foreign Minister defects from Gaddafi’s government and flees to England. April 30: A NATO-led air strike destroys a house in Tripoli, claiming the life of Gaddafi’s youngest son, Saif al-Arab, as well as three of the Colonel’s grandchildren. June 27: Arrest warrants for Gaddafi, his son Saif al-Islam, and his intelligence chief Abdullah al-Senussi are issued by the International Criminal Court (ICC). July 15: The NTC is recognised by the US as the government of Libya during a conference in Turkey. so ,technically, it wasnt the call of any COUNTRY, it was the call of the UN and ...I dont live there so I dont know if its 'better' or not just like it may have been BETTER under Saddam, than it is now,, but thats very subjective and I wouldnt speculate as someone who doesnt live there,,, I can consider the possibility on both sides, that people may REALLY need help against 'terrorist' dictators sometimes and that other times, they may not but which side should we err on is a very difficult moral dilemma in my opinion |
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Edited by
s1owhand
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Mon 09/19/11 06:07 PM
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Now that Terrorism has been revealed to be the opposite of Religion the anti-religion folks want to talk about Libya instead. They should just go and start another Libya thread! |
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Terrorism Prophesized?
Isa 28:14-19 14 Therefore hear the word of Yahweh, you scornful men,Who rule this people who are in Jerusalem, 15 Because you have said, "We have made a covenant with death,And with Sheol we are in agreement.When the overflowing scourge passes through,It will not come to us,For we have made lies our refuge,And under falsehood we have hidden ourselves." 16 Therefore thus says Yahweh Elohim: "Behold, I lay in Zion a stone for a foundation,A tried stone, a precious cornerstone, a sure foundation;Whoever believes will not act hastily. 17 Also I will make justice the measuring line,And righteousness the plummet;The hail will sweep away the refuge of lies,And the waters will overflow the hiding place. 18 Your covenant with death will be annulled,And your agreement with Sheol will not stand;When the overflowing scourge passes through,Then you will be trampled down by it. 19 As often as it goes out it will take you;For morning by morning it will pass over,And by day and by night;It will be a terror just to understand the report." NKJV A Covenent of Death. Terror.. Todays News.. but who? Blessings..Miles |
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I actually thought that was an airstrike engineered by the UN,,,, Under the UN Charter, no country is allowed to carry out acts of aggression against another sovereign nation or interfere in its domestic affairs. then how do you explain un resolution 1973 authorizing military intervention in lybia??? |
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If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck .....
Islamic extremism is a terrorist organization. It is a subset under the religion of Islam. They recruit, seek financing among members, and operate not unlike the Christians providing bake sales for the needy but with ill intent. It appears to be growing due to various factors. Propaganda. There are many families in places like Lebanon where the mother, father, and siblings encourage young children to be suicide bombers, and all that goes with the concept. The community supports the concept of terrorism. Young minds are easily molded. Retaliation. Once a country like the US, Russia, Israel, etc., bombs, attacks, or sends troops into a terrorist area and causes death, there is then a blood feud between all members of the families where fatalities occurred and the attacking party. Violence begets violence in an ever escalating scale. History. Some groups like the Arabs and Jews have fought for centuries and it is part of their tradition. Terrorism is the new method of the old fight. Effectiveness. When one person can cause the death of many, with a "war" mentality, the event is perceived as a victory. Weapons inequality. Persons without military equipment are limited to "guerrilla warfare" tactics. These tactics have been proven effective in actual wars by actual soldiers. Ideology. Islamic leaders, in large numbers, are preaching that terrorism is the proper method of worship and will result in the attacker reaching Paradise. They teach that the West is evil and must be destroyed. Religion is infused into every aspect of idea of dying for your country/people/religion. The war is real. The terrorists are religious zealots. Call it what you will. |
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one mans terrorist,, and all that
most of what is mentioned can be attributed just as easily to patriotism and militancy, in the hands of extremist or violent minds,,,, I would put terrorism and religion in the same context only if I could do the same with patriotism and religion or militancy and religion militancy as a religion, because it often leads to 'victories' of the most deaths and it encourages blind allegiance,,, patriotism, because, in many cases,, it invokes the same attitude , the more of 'them' we get, the more victorious we are because nobody messes with 'US' |
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If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck ..... Islamic extremism is a terrorist organization. It is a subset under the religion of Islam. They recruit, seek financing among members, and operate not unlike the Christians providing bake sales for the needy but with ill intent. It appears to be growing due to various factors. Propaganda. There are many families in places like Lebanon where the mother, father, and siblings encourage young children to be suicide bombers, and all that goes with the concept. The community supports the concept of terrorism. Young minds are easily molded. Retaliation. Once a country like the US, Russia, Israel, etc., bombs, attacks, or sends troops into a terrorist area and causes death, there is then a blood feud between all members of the families where fatalities occurred and the attacking party. Violence begets violence in an ever escalating scale. History. Some groups like the Arabs and Jews have fought for centuries and it is part of their tradition. Terrorism is the new method of the old fight. Effectiveness. When one person can cause the death of many, with a "war" mentality, the event is perceived as a victory. Weapons inequality. Persons without military equipment are limited to "guerrilla warfare" tactics. These tactics have been proven effective in actual wars by actual soldiers. Ideology. Islamic leaders, in large numbers, are preaching that terrorism is the proper method of worship and will result in the attacker reaching Paradise. They teach that the West is evil and must be destroyed. Religion is infused into every aspect of idea of dying for your country/people/religion. The war is real. The terrorists are religious zealots. Call it what you will. Terrorism is neither new nor confined to religious motivations but is distinguished by a disregard for human life and the act of killing innocent people to make a political statement. Terrorism is mass murder of innocent people, a war crime pure and simple. It can be distinguished from actual warfare which prohibits killing innocent people. So there is no "one man's terrorist". There is a clear definition of terrorist and it can be easily applied across the board for everyone. Terrorism is not synonymous with guerrilla warfare. Historically, Muslims and Jews lived peacefully together throughout the Mideast for over a millenium and a half. It is only in the last 50-100 years that antisemitism and intolerance of judaism has divided the Muslims and the Jews. Now, at this time, the main proponents of terrorist activity around the world are Islamic fundamentalists who abuse their religion by using it as an excuse to kill innocent people whose views they imagine differ from their own twisted ideology. Everyone should stand up against such vile misanthropy. But this is a misuse of religion. Islam actually teaches the sanctity of human life like all other religions and it is purely a perversion of Islam to use religious fervor as a reason to mass murder innocent people regardless of their religious beliefs. Islamic extremism should not be viewed as a subset of Islam but rather as a perversion of Islam outside and not condoned by Muslims. But more Islamic leaders should make this clear. There. I said it. |
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then how do you explain un resolution 1973 authorizing military intervention in lybia??? Msharmony I like your take on this: all our views are based on what we read. Note however that Gaddafi's son and grandchildren killed in those strikes were innocent civillians. Thousands of other innocents have died in this war, and if what is good for the goose is good for the gander, then Syria should be the next target of those jets. And Obama ought to resign because of the wall street protesters |
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...Its the same old story. Globalization. The U.S has been infiltrated. It is no longer about Nationalism, its about spreading a kind of tyranny and calling it "democracy." Its Capitalism.... That seems to me like the rule of the Beast in Revelation. The G7 countries are the seven heads of the beast. capitalism is their religion and they terrorise those that don't believe in it. Mugabe was spared the bombs because he didn't have oil...Afterall the Queen of England is not elected and... |
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