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Topic: Ground Zero Mega Mosque renamed "Prayerspace"
msharmony's photo
Sat 08/13/11 01:09 PM
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s1owhand's photo
Sat 08/13/11 01:16 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgASBVMyVFI

msharmony's photo
Sat 08/13/11 01:32 PM


wow, do we still have national brotherhood week?

pretty cool,,lol

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Sat 08/13/11 02:07 PM

Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses count too.


Yep I agree bigsmile

I am not familiar with the Shiite and Suni thing. I don't know what their problem is. what

Baptists and Catholics? Well they still hate each other, but they aren't killing each other, at least in this country.

How about Protestants and Catholics in Ireland? Are they still killing each other?

Hey lets just all be friends. Don't mess with me and I won't shoot you. Okay?

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When Mohammad died he left behind two people who one was to be named successor but the naming never happened. Basically it was like Rome without a Pope. Now when one of the two people was chosen there was a HUGE disagreement between the faction who wanted the other person chosen. I am not naming names because I don't remember them. You can find more information of this conflict by looking up "Shiite Suni war" or "Conflict" and it spells out it was a fight over which person would succeed Mohammad as the leader (Caliph) of Islam. In essence it is like the Eastern Orthodox Church and Rome having a war. This bitterness has also caused a split in who's flavor of Islam is true. That ADDS more fuel for the fire.

Now again I view the written word on several merits but one I will not overlook how the situation with people ignoring Hitler's own words in Mein Kamph happened to be his agenda. Well, the Quaran spells it our pretty well. They are out to dominate the world by brutal subjugation. With them it is a matter of time before they feel froggy enough to leap. I can not get behind tolerating a religion that will not tolerate me. God I could see visiting Mecca and now giving into their customs. Just walking in grace among them is not good enough. And if I stood up for a woman not covering her face by her choice... I would love to see the tolerance there. Please tell me otherwise PLEASE!

When Islam gives up the Quaran I will breath easier. Until then I feel condemned by them sight unseen!

Again this is a case where you are preaching tolerance for a group or organization you know nothing about. You may as well say the Mexican Mafia is misunderstood too! I have asked Msharmony this one question and never seem to get a straight answer but I will ask it with a slightly different twist, Can YOU live as a man's property, LET ALONE A SECOND CLASS CITIZEN AT BEST, knowing if you are raped and you complain you WILL be sentenced to death unless you got four witnesses who will testify against the accused, knowing your husband OWNS you and if he comes home all pissed off he can beat you just because he felt like it? How about living in a place where kissing the one you love in public IS a death sentence more than likely for her or both? From other stuff you said you are way to independent to survive long under Sharia law. THAT IS THE LAW OF ISLAM and most of its punishments involve whippings, amputations, and murder. It is one thing to execute a prisoner who's actions fit the punishment but to kill a woman for Adultery when she had sex with her boyfriend when she wasn't married? how about kids killed because of something one of their parents did? How about the idea you can sell your children? How about the fact that Sharia Law allows slavery?

Still feeling tolerant??? So do they get to live here and impose their laws here too? Look at England AND France! Tell me that hasn't happened! PLEASE!

no photo
Sat 08/13/11 02:23 PM

Look at England AND France! Tell me that hasn't happened! PLEASE!


You do know the burka is banned in France, rght? And last I checked I'm not living under some Sharia law.

There are muslim extremists yeah, but there are extremists in every world view.
And not all muslims are bloodthirsty savages who want to rule the world. There are many who simply go about their daily business like everyone else. The Quran has violent passages and peaceul passages, as has been explained earlier.

The bible has violent passages as well as peaceful passages and a hell of a lot of violence has ben done in its name. (doesnt matter how long ago those attrocities were, the bible hasn't changed.) Now wouldn't you say christianity has a greater influence on American culture? They even have a phrase printed on dollars. Shouldnt you be more terrified by christians? They seem more of a pressing threat. Every one of them is just frothing at the mouth to launch anoth crusade and burn women for being witches. Right?

msharmony's photo
Sat 08/13/11 02:27 PM


ok, one by one,,

Can YOU live as a man's property?


It depends upon the man and how good he is to 'property'


LET ALONE A SECOND CLASS CITIZEN AT BEST?


my income bracket already makes me that, so I guess I CAN ,
although I dont completely enjoy it


, knowing if you are raped and you complain you WILL be sentenced to death unless you got four witnesses who will testify against the accused knowing your husband OWNS you and if he comes home all pissed off he can beat you just because he felt like it?

I would no more want to live under such strict HADD law than I
would the strict laws of deutoronomy

How about living in a place where kissing the one you love in public IS a death sentence more than likely for her or both?

Again, this is one that I wouldnt enjoy. But would not be hard
to 'sacrifice'. I could adapt to keeping affections private.


From other stuff you said you are way to independent to survive long under Sharia law. THAT IS THE LAW OF ISLAM and most of its punishments involve whippings, amputations, and murder. It is one thing to execute a prisoner who's actions fit the punishment but to kill a woman for Adultery when she had sex with her boyfriend when she wasn't married? how about kids killed because of something one of their parents did? How about the idea you can sell your children? How about the fact that Sharia Law allows slavery?


How about the strict punishments in Deuteronomy? I probably
wouldnt do well with them either.


I do not and would not assume that all who follow Islam follow such a strict interpretation of the (HADD) laws in their lives and lifestyles.

I can imagine the numbers of muslims would be FAR less if those laws were indeed strictly followed and endorsed as the norm.

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Sat 08/13/11 03:43 PM



wow, do we still have national brotherhood week?

pretty cool,,lol


3rd Week in February!

laugh

This is the list of annual observances recognized in the United States and no more than two other independent countries.

MONTHS

February - Black History Month
February - American Heart Month
March - National Nutrition Month, Frozen Foods Month
March - Women's History Month
April - National Poetry Month
April - Confederate History Month (Limited to some state and local governments)
April - Cancer Control Month
May - Asian Pacific American Heritage Month
May - Steelmark Month
June - Lesbian and Gay Pride Month
September 15 - October 15 - National Hispanic Heritage Month
September - National Preparedness Month
October - Filipino American History Month
October - National Disability Employment Awareness Month
October - Mexican-American History Month
October - Breast Cancer Awareness Month
November- Native American History Month


WEEKS

3rd in February - National Brotherhood Week
1st in March - Save Your Vision Week
3rd in March - National Poison Prevention Week
week of May 15 - Police Week
week ending Friday before Memorial Day - National Safe Boating Week
week of 3rd Friday in May - National Transportation Week
week of June 14 - National Flag Week
June 14 (Flag Day) - July 4 (Independence Day) - Honor America Days
September 17 - September 23 - Constitution Week
2nd Sunday in October - National School Lunch Week
3rd Sunday in October - National Forest Products Week


DAYS

January 13 - Stephen Foster Memorial Day
January 15 - Martin Luther King Day
February 1 - National Freedom Day
February 14 - Valentine's Day
3rd Monday in February - Presidents Day
March 14 - Pi Day
April 13 - Thomas Jefferson's birthday
May 1 - Law Day, U.S.A.
May 1 - Loyalty Day
1st Thursday in May - National Day of Prayer
2nd Sunday in May - Mother's Day
3rd Saturday in May - Armed Forces Day
3rd Friday in May - National Defense Transportation Day
last Monday in May - Memorial Day
May 15 - Peace Officers Memorial Day
May 22 - National Maritime(US) Day
May 25 - Towel Day
Late June - Gay Pride
June 14 - Flag Day
3rd Sunday in June - Father's Day
June 25 - National Catfish Day (1987)
July 4 - Independence Day
4th Sunday in July - Parent's Day
August 19 - National Aviation Day
1st Monday in September - Labor Day
1st Saturday after Labor Day - Carl Garner Federal Lands Cleanup Day (US)
1st Sunday after Labor Day - National Grandparents Day
September 11 - Patriot Day
September 17 - Citizenship Day
September 19 - International Talk Like a Pirate Day [
last Sunday in September - Gold Star Mother's Day
1st Monday in October - Child Health Day
October 6 - German-American Day
October 9 - Leif Erikson Day
October 11 - National Coming Out Day
October 13 - Navy Day
2nd Monday in October - Columbus Day
October 15 - White Cane Safety Day
October 23 - National Mole Day
November 11 - Veterans Day
November 12 - National Pizza with the Works (except anchovies) Day
November 15 - America Recycles Day
December 7 - National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day
December 17 - Pan American Aviation Day
December 17 - Wright Brothers Day
Sources: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annual_obs

from the Wiki on US Natl Observances


no photo
Sat 08/13/11 03:45 PM
That is why both Christianity and Islam and Judaism should all be ended. They are all ridiculous and have some ridiculous ideas.

msharmony's photo
Sat 08/13/11 03:49 PM

That is why both Christianity and Islam and Judaism should all be ended. They are all ridiculous and have some ridiculous ideas.



??

nationally recognized holidays are religious?



I kind of think if its not mandated and if its not celebrating atrocities done to others

its no big deal

msharmony's photo
Sat 08/13/11 03:55 PM




wow, do we still have national brotherhood week?

pretty cool,,lol


3rd Week in February!

laugh

This is the list of annual observances recognized in the United States and no more than two other independent countries.

MONTHS

February - Black History Month
February - American Heart Month
March - National Nutrition Month, Frozen Foods Month
March - Women's History Month
April - National Poetry Month
April - Confederate History Month (Limited to some state and local governments)
April - Cancer Control Month
May - Asian Pacific American Heritage Month
May - Steelmark Month
June - Lesbian and Gay Pride Month
September 15 - October 15 - National Hispanic Heritage Month
September - National Preparedness Month
October - Filipino American History Month
October - National Disability Employment Awareness Month
October - Mexican-American History Month
October - Breast Cancer Awareness Month
November- Native American History Month


WEEKS

3rd in February - National Brotherhood Week
1st in March - Save Your Vision Week
3rd in March - National Poison Prevention Week
week of May 15 - Police Week
week ending Friday before Memorial Day - National Safe Boating Week
week of 3rd Friday in May - National Transportation Week
week of June 14 - National Flag Week
June 14 (Flag Day) - July 4 (Independence Day) - Honor America Days
September 17 - September 23 - Constitution Week
2nd Sunday in October - National School Lunch Week
3rd Sunday in October - National Forest Products Week


DAYS

January 13 - Stephen Foster Memorial Day
January 15 - Martin Luther King Day
February 1 - National Freedom Day
February 14 - Valentine's Day
3rd Monday in February - Presidents Day
March 14 - Pi Day
April 13 - Thomas Jefferson's birthday
May 1 - Law Day, U.S.A.
May 1 - Loyalty Day
1st Thursday in May - National Day of Prayer
2nd Sunday in May - Mother's Day
3rd Saturday in May - Armed Forces Day
3rd Friday in May - National Defense Transportation Day
last Monday in May - Memorial Day
May 15 - Peace Officers Memorial Day
May 22 - National Maritime(US) Day
May 25 - Towel Day
Late June - Gay Pride
June 14 - Flag Day
3rd Sunday in June - Father's Day
June 25 - National Catfish Day (1987)
July 4 - Independence Day
4th Sunday in July - Parent's Day
August 19 - National Aviation Day
1st Monday in September - Labor Day
1st Saturday after Labor Day - Carl Garner Federal Lands Cleanup Day (US)
1st Sunday after Labor Day - National Grandparents Day
September 11 - Patriot Day
September 17 - Citizenship Day
September 19 - International Talk Like a Pirate Day [
last Sunday in September - Gold Star Mother's Day
1st Monday in October - Child Health Day
October 6 - German-American Day
October 9 - Leif Erikson Day
October 11 - National Coming Out Day
October 13 - Navy Day
2nd Monday in October - Columbus Day
October 15 - White Cane Safety Day
October 23 - National Mole Day
November 11 - Veterans Day
November 12 - National Pizza with the Works (except anchovies) Day
November 15 - America Recycles Day
December 7 - National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day
December 17 - Pan American Aviation Day
December 17 - Wright Brothers Day
Sources: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annual_obs

from the Wiki on US Natl Observances





thats pretty cool, I love when people can come together for something celebratory or joyous

most countries have holidays that are in line with their national history

no photo
Sat 08/13/11 04:02 PM


That is why both Christianity and Islam and Judaism should all be ended. They are all ridiculous and have some ridiculous ideas.



??

nationally recognized holidays are religious?



I kind of think if its not mandated and if its not celebrating atrocities done to others

its no big deal


I was responding the for post before that.
Religions set people against each other fighting over what God is the real god.

Its just silly.

mightymoe's photo
Sat 08/13/11 04:23 PM
religion is not about god, it's about control.

msharmony's photo
Sat 08/13/11 04:32 PM

religion is not about god, it's about control.



I guess it depends upon how one defines religion

a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith



religion, for me, is a form of congregating with peers who have similar values and standards,,,

mightymoe's photo
Sat 08/13/11 04:44 PM


religion is not about god, it's about control.



I guess it depends upon how one defines religion

a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith



religion, for me, is a form of congregating with peers who have similar values and standards,,,


yes, birds of a feather...people mostly like to be around others that think similar to themselves...

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Mon 08/15/11 11:42 AM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Mon 08/15/11 11:43 AM



what i heard is that this 'mega' mosque is more than just a regular mosque. It has a prayer area for muslims, yeah, but doesn't it also have prayer/meditation areas for other faiths?

For muslims and others to be praying to their respective faiths under one roof sounds like a pretty big middle finger to the Islamic extremists.

(unless of course, ALL muslims everywhere are terrorists, eh? ... pfft)


Indonesia, Sudan, Egypt, Yemen, what have they all in common? Islamic Majorities. Now what do they also have in common especially in recent history? Violence aimed at Churches and Christians. This includes murdering Christians.

So you tell me, they might not all be terrorists but what happens when they have the majority and likewise the Mob Mentality takes over???


Mob mentality fueled violence is not a sole product of Islam or muslims. Christians have been just as guilty in the past. But it is not just a religious product either. Nazi germany for example. Mob violence against minorities has also occured due to racial motivations, political differences and countless other reasons. Sometimes the majority will act violently, other times they will lash out with lies, slurs and generalisations in an attempt to demonise them. Such mob mentalities often originates from fear or sheer blind ignorance. Sometimes both.



>Such mob mentalities often originates from fear or sheer blind ignorance. Sometimes both.

This quite good.

You do realize, you just described how Islam works.
Women live in fear, and the blind, ignorant, horny Jihad's
can't wait to die for Allah and his virgins


You do realize he just described the behaviors of many in this thread?




religion is not about god, it's about control.



I guess it depends upon how one defines religion

a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith



religion, for me, is a form of congregating with peers who have similar values and standards,,,
You know msharmony, you seem like the kind of person I would get along with very well. Tolerate, thoughtful, kind. I am not a believer in the supernatural, but I do believe in thoughtful tolerance.

Cheers!

frn12345's photo
Mon 08/15/11 11:48 AM
>I am not familiar with the Shiite and Suni thing. I don't know what their problem is.

Ah... Divorce Court.... Who's the rightful successor to Mo?
His adopted Son, or his Highest ranking officer?

Here is the split.

Funny they kill each other of this stuff, but stop and kill the Jews and Infidels first. They must die as Mo wills it.



msharmony's photo
Mon 08/15/11 11:55 PM




what i heard is that this 'mega' mosque is more than just a regular mosque. It has a prayer area for muslims, yeah, but doesn't it also have prayer/meditation areas for other faiths?

For muslims and others to be praying to their respective faiths under one roof sounds like a pretty big middle finger to the Islamic extremists.

(unless of course, ALL muslims everywhere are terrorists, eh? ... pfft)


Indonesia, Sudan, Egypt, Yemen, what have they all in common? Islamic Majorities. Now what do they also have in common especially in recent history? Violence aimed at Churches and Christians. This includes murdering Christians.

So you tell me, they might not all be terrorists but what happens when they have the majority and likewise the Mob Mentality takes over???


Mob mentality fueled violence is not a sole product of Islam or muslims. Christians have been just as guilty in the past. But it is not just a religious product either. Nazi germany for example. Mob violence against minorities has also occured due to racial motivations, political differences and countless other reasons. Sometimes the majority will act violently, other times they will lash out with lies, slurs and generalisations in an attempt to demonise them. Such mob mentalities often originates from fear or sheer blind ignorance. Sometimes both.



>Such mob mentalities often originates from fear or sheer blind ignorance. Sometimes both.

This quite good.

You do realize, you just described how Islam works.
Women live in fear, and the blind, ignorant, horny Jihad's
can't wait to die for Allah and his virgins


You do realize he just described the behaviors of many in this thread?




religion is not about god, it's about control.



I guess it depends upon how one defines religion

a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith



religion, for me, is a form of congregating with peers who have similar values and standards,,,
You know msharmony, you seem like the kind of person I would get along with very well. Tolerate, thoughtful, kind. I am not a believer in the supernatural, but I do believe in thoughtful tolerance.

Cheers!


thanx bushhhhhhhhh

I get along with anyone who isnt extremely

A)rude
B) condescending
C) hateful/ignorant
D) needy


,,, so IM sure we would get along fine,, you seem to be none of the above

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