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Topic: Ground Zero Mega Mosque renamed "Prayerspace"
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Tue 08/02/11 03:09 PM
Edited by mightymoe on Tue 08/02/11 03:13 PM
On Friday night, Park51 launched a fundraiser aimed at raising $7 million over the next month and a half, according to WNYC. The deadline for the funds is Sept. 10, which Mr. El-Gamal called “a motivational deadline,” its proximity to the 10th anniversary merely a coincidence.

Last November, when the project sought $5 million in 9/11 grants, it caused quite a stir, so any fundraising attempts could prove fraught. The geometric project is expected to cost $100 million.

Grants from who? The victims families?

WNYC also reports that the project’s name has been changed to PrayerSpace, but that appears to simply be the name of the 2,000-seat chapel planned for the 15-story community center, first known as Cordoba House and more widely called the “ground zero mosque,” while the overall project is still Park51.

Watch this supremaicist grifter, Ganal twists, "this project is going to show the world who we are" (and what they are.) and the blares out, "is failure an option!" the sparse crowd says no. Gamal yells, "Is failure an option?!? " and answers"No! Takbir!" "Takbir!" (expansionism) He speaks of lectures from Islamic scholars like who? Sheik Qaradawi, we know Imam Feisal Rauf is a huge fan of that genocidal imam.

911rallyfinal The morphing mosque narrative morphs yet again.

AFDI and its Stop Islamization of America (SIOA) program are encouraging all Americans to stand against the Islamic supremacist mega-mosque at Ground Zero and the anti-Semitic Durban III conference that will be held in New York City at the same time, and for American values on the tenth anniversary of the worst attack ever on American soil.

Building the Ground Zero mosque is not an issue of religious freedom, but of resisting an effort to insult the victims of 9/11 and to establish a beachhead for political Islam and Islamic supremacism in New York. Cordoba Initiative board member imam Feisal Abdul Rauf is an open proponent of Sharia, Islamic law, a system that denies the freedom of speech, the freedom of conscience, and the equality of rights of all people before the law. Given the thousands of triumphal mosques that have been built on the cherished sites of conquered peoples throughout Islamic history, the mosque leaders’ claim that this mosque would be understood differently by Muslims worldwide lack foundation.

The Durban III conference follows upon two previous conferences that scapegoated and demonized the state of Israel in service of Islamic jihad and Islamic supremacist interests. The rally will defend Israel against the defamation to which it will be subjected at this conference. It will also call upon the city to remove roadblocks to the reconstruction of St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church, which was destroyed on 9/11 and since then mired in bureaucratic red tape that has prevented its rebuilding – in stark contrast to the help Mayor Bloomberg and other city officials have given to the Ground Zero Mosque project.

AFDI/SIOA is one of America’s foremost organizations defending human rights, religious liberty, and the freedom of speech against Islamic supremacist intimidation and attempts to bring elements of Sharia to the United States.

Septmeber 11th at 911 Freedom Rally at 2pm at Broadway and Park Place to oppose this 15 story middlefinger to America.

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Tue 08/02/11 03:23 PM


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Tue 08/02/11 03:31 PM
Here is my answer to that middle finger to us, violate the construction site, attack anyone daring to work on building it, and destroy the equipment on that site. Also the construction office should also be raided and if possible burned predisposing that no human lives are lost in the attack! And for the contractors daring enough to take this job on, I hope they get beaten and robbed DAILY! This is one time I am advocating a violent action against this atrocity! Time for the local construction unions to prove what color their blood is. Is it American Red or sell out PISS YELLOW? It is time Americans shown out "Leaders" it is time to stop selling us out to Islam and the New World Order! This would be a great way to do it.

This is BULLSHITTE! New York, what the FUQUE is wrong with your civil leaders?

My money is the Unions there will sell out! Supposedly NOTHING gets done construction wise without the Unions blessing. Lets see if that really is true!

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Tue 08/02/11 03:48 PM

Here is my answer to that middle finger to us, violate the construction site, attack anyone daring to work on building it, and destroy the equipment on that site. Also the construction office should also be raided and if possible burned predisposing that no human lives are lost in the attack! And for the contractors daring enough to take this job on, I hope they get beaten and robbed DAILY! This is one time I am advocating a violent action against this atrocity! Time for the local construction unions to prove what color their blood is. Is it American Red or sell out PISS YELLOW? It is time Americans shown out "Leaders" it is time to stop selling us out to Islam and the New World Order! This would be a great way to do it.

This is BULLSHITTE! New York, what the FUQUE is wrong with your civil leaders?

My money is the Unions there will sell out! Supposedly NOTHING gets done construction wise without the Unions blessing. Lets see if that really is true!


they will probably bring in a foreign company to build it, since obama loves to do that so much...

AndyBgood's photo
Tue 08/02/11 05:14 PM
If they do it lets see if the local unions got the teeth to screw them for doing that!

Unfortunately I see them being like this about it...


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Tue 08/02/11 05:39 PM
"And there's been a split between the owner of the building and the original imam who was involved.

But the owner — real estate developer Sharif El-Gamal — is moving forward with his plans for a mosque."

Here's the NPR story about how they are pushing ahead with the
Ground Zero Mosque Project

http://www.npr.org/2011/05/05/135951856/developer-plans-for-n-y-mosque-moving-forward

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Tue 08/02/11 08:12 PM

"And there's been a split between the owner of the building and the original imam who was involved.

But the owner — real estate developer Sharif El-Gamal — is moving forward with his plans for a mosque."

Here's the NPR story about how they are pushing ahead with the
Ground Zero Mosque Project

http://www.npr.org/2011/05/05/135951856/developer-plans-for-n-y-mosque-moving-forward


boy, they make it sound all nice and cozy...grumble

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Tue 08/02/11 10:42 PM


"And there's been a split between the owner of the building and the original imam who was involved.

But the owner — real estate developer Sharif El-Gamal — is moving forward with his plans for a mosque."

Here's the NPR story about how they are pushing ahead with the
Ground Zero Mosque Project

http://www.npr.org/2011/05/05/135951856/developer-plans-for-n-y-mosque-moving-forward


boy, they make it sound all nice and cozy...grumble



I know , whats up with not painting all those muslims and imams as extremist terrorists who caused/supported the deaths on 9/11?

we cant uphold our constitutional and legal precedents for these people,, what is wrong with us,,,,,lol

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Tue 08/02/11 10:49 PM



"And there's been a split between the owner of the building and the original imam who was involved.

But the owner — real estate developer Sharif El-Gamal — is moving forward with his plans for a mosque."

Here's the NPR story about how they are pushing ahead with the
Ground Zero Mosque Project

http://www.npr.org/2011/05/05/135951856/developer-plans-for-n-y-mosque-moving-forward


boy, they make it sound all nice and cozy...grumble



I know , whats up with not painting all those muslims and imams as extremist terrorists who caused/supported the deaths on 9/11?

we cant uphold our constitutional and legal precedents for these people,, what is wrong with us,,,,,lol


what makes you think they do care? they have a history of when they destroy a fort, chapel, any building they raze they put mosques in it's place, as a sign of their superiority over their conquests. new york city is a big city, their are thousands of other places to put their mosque.

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Tue 08/02/11 10:56 PM




"And there's been a split between the owner of the building and the original imam who was involved.

But the owner — real estate developer Sharif El-Gamal — is moving forward with his plans for a mosque."

Here's the NPR story about how they are pushing ahead with the
Ground Zero Mosque Project

http://www.npr.org/2011/05/05/135951856/developer-plans-for-n-y-mosque-moving-forward


boy, they make it sound all nice and cozy...grumble



I know , whats up with not painting all those muslims and imams as extremist terrorists who caused/supported the deaths on 9/11?

we cant uphold our constitutional and legal precedents for these people,, what is wrong with us,,,,,lol


what makes you think they do care? they have a history of when they destroy a fort, chapel, any building they raze they put mosques in it's place, as a sign of their superiority over their conquests. new york city is a big city, their are thousands of other places to put their mosque.


ok, explain how many 'conquests' they have had in the US , and how many of those resorted in asserting 'superiority' by building a mosque?



mightymoe's photo
Tue 08/02/11 11:07 PM





"And there's been a split between the owner of the building and the original imam who was involved.

But the owner — real estate developer Sharif El-Gamal — is moving forward with his plans for a mosque."

Here's the NPR story about how they are pushing ahead with the
Ground Zero Mosque Project

http://www.npr.org/2011/05/05/135951856/developer-plans-for-n-y-mosque-moving-forward


boy, they make it sound all nice and cozy...grumble



I know , whats up with not painting all those muslims and imams as extremist terrorists who caused/supported the deaths on 9/11?

we cant uphold our constitutional and legal precedents for these people,, what is wrong with us,,,,,lol


what makes you think they do care? they have a history of when they destroy a fort, chapel, any building they raze they put mosques in it's place, as a sign of their superiority over their conquests. new york city is a big city, their are thousands of other places to put their mosque.


ok, explain how many 'conquests' they have had in the US , and how many of those resorted in asserting 'superiority' by building a mosque?





9-11???? does that mean anything to you? and what are they trying to do? why do you think that muslims and Israel have such problems? when Israel was overran by muslims, they tore down the Israeli mosque and built theirs on top of where it stood....


In 630, Muhammad led 10,000 Muslim soldiers into Mecca and turned the pagans’ most prominent spot, the Ka’aba, into the Masjid al-Haram Mosque.

In 634, Rightly Guided Caliph Umar conquered Syria and turned the Christians’ most prominent spot, the Church of Job, famous for being visited by Saint Silva in the fourth century, into the Mosque of Job.

In 637, Caliph Umar conquered Hebron and turned the second-most prominent spot in Judaism, the Cave of the Patriarchs, into the Ibrahimi Mosque. (This was repeated by Saladin in 1188.)

In 638, Muslim generals Amr ibn al-As and Khalid ibn al-Walid conquered Gaza and turned the prominent fifth-century Byzantine church into the Great Mosque of Gaza.

In 638, Caliph Umar conquered Jerusalem.

In 691, Caliph Al-Malik ordered the Dome of the Rock built on the most prominent spot in Judaism, the Temple Mount, followed by Caliph Al-Walid building the Al-Aqsa Mosque there in 705.

In 651, Muslims conquered Persia and turned Zoroastrian temples in Bukhara and Istakhr into mosques.

In 706, after Muslims took Damascus from the Byzantine Empire, Caliph Al-Walid turned the prominent Orthodox Church of St. John the Baptist into the Umayyad Mosque.

In 710, Gen. Muhammad bin Qasim conquered Pakistan, defiled the prominent Sun Temple in Multan, which house the great idol “sanam,” and erected a mosque.

In 784, after the conquest of Spain, Emir Abd ar-Rahman turned the prominent Visigothic Christian Church of Saint Vincent into the Great Aljama Mosque of Cordoba. After the conquest of Egypt, Caliphs al-Mamun (813-833) and al-Hakim (996-1021) turned prominent Coptic Christian churches and Jewish synagogues in Cairo into mosques.

In 831, Muslims conquered Palermo, Sicily, and Asad ibn al-Furat turned the prominent Church of Saint Mary of the Assumption into the Great Mosque of Bal’harm. In 1193, Muslims conquered Delhi, India, and Qutbuddin Aibak turned the Red Citadel in Dhillika, the most prominent spot of the last Hindu rulers, into the Qutb Minar Mosque.

From 1250-1517, Mamluk Muslims controlled the Golan Heights and used the ancient Synagogue of Katzrin as a mosque.

In 1387, Turkish Muslims conquered Thessaloniki and turned the Katholikon Monastery and the Church of Aghia Sophia, which housed the relics of Saint Gregorios Palamas, into mosques, as Symeon of Thessaloniki recorded: “The greatest number of the buildings of the churches fell to them, of which the first was the Holy Church of the Savior. … These were trampled underfoot and the infidels rejoiced in them. … Most of thhe religious buildings in the city were despoiled, while altars were demolished and sacred things profaned.”

On May 29, 1453, Sultan Mehmet II conquered Constantinople and turned the great Byzantine church, Hagia Sophia, into the Ayasofya Mosque. The largest church in Christendom for a thousand years, the church’s four acres of gold mosaics were covered with whitewash and Quran verses.

In 1458, Sultan Mehmet II conquered Athens and turned the Greeks’ most prominent spot, the Parthenon on Acropolis hill, into a mosque. When Venetian Gen. Francesco Morosini drove the Muslims out in 1687, a cannonball hit the gunpowder stored in the mosque, blowing it up. In the 15th century, Ottoman invaders turned Saint Clement’s Macedonian Orthodox Monastery in Plaosnik, Balkans, into the Imater Mosque.

From 1519-1858, Muslim Mughal rulers gained control of India and turned over 2,000 Hindu temples into mosques, including demolishing the Temple of Ram Janmabhoomi in Ayodhya, the birthplace of Rama, and replacing it with the Babri Mosque. India’s Mughal Muslim ruler, Jahangir (1605-1627), wrote in Tujuk-i-Jahangiri: “At the city of Banaras [was] a temple. … I made it my plea for thhrowing down the temple … and on the spot, with the very same materials,, I erected the great mosque.”

In 1543, Hayreddin Barbarossa’s 30,000 Muslim troops wintered in Toulon, France, and turned the prominent Toulon Cathedral into a mosque.

In 1570, under Sultan Selim II Khan, Muslims conquered Paphos, Cyprus, and Gov. Mehmet Bey Ebubkir turned the prominent Christian church into the Great Mosque of Paphos.

In 1571, Muslims invaded Famagusta, Cyprus, and turned Saint Nicolas Cathedral, a rare Gothic church, into the Lala Mustafa Pasha Mosque, and Saint Sophia Cathedral in Nicosia, constructed in 1228, into the Selimiye Mosque.

In 1588, Sultan Murat III turned the Eastern Orthodox Church of Saint John the Forerunner in Constantinople into the Hirami Ahmet Pasha Mosque.

In 1781, after having conquered the Old City of Acre, Ottoman Muslims turned the Roman Catholic church built by Crusaders into the Jezzar Ahmet Pasha Mosque, where a hair from Muhammad’s beard is preserved.

In 1923, Muslims expelled Greeks from Turkey and turned Orthodox churches into mosques. In World War II, Nazis allied with Bosnians and turned the prominent Artists’ Gallery Museum in Zagreb, Croatia, into a mosque.

In the 1950s, Muslims expelled Jews from Arab lands and turned synagogues into mosques. Algerian Muslims warred against French colonial rule till France pulled out in 1962, after which the Cathedral of St. Philippe was turned into the Ketchaoua Mosque. Violence against Jews caused 30,000 to flee and the Great Synagogue of Oran was turned into the Mosque Abdellah Ben Salem.

In 1974, Turkish Muslims invaded northern Cyprus, and prominent Greek Orthodox churches were turned into mosques. In 1981, Muslim immigrants to the Netherlands converted Amsterdam’s historic Catholic Sint-Ignatiuskerk into the Fatih Mosque, and a synagogue in The Hague into the Aksa Mosque.

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Tue 08/02/11 11:10 PM
uhuh, and in the 18 and 1900's Africans and caucasions were causing havoc on each other in AFRICA

but my question was about here in AMERICA, today,,,,,

mightymoe's photo
Tue 08/02/11 11:12 PM

uhuh, and in the 18 and 1900's Africans and caucasions were causing havoc on each other in AFRICA

but my question was about here in AMERICA, today,,,,,


so far they are batting 1000... 1 for 1, seems like good odds to me...

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Wed 08/03/11 08:32 AM
Edited by willing2 on Wed 08/03/11 08:36 AM


uhuh, and in the 18 and 1900's Africans and caucasions were causing havoc on each other in AFRICA

but my question was about here in AMERICA, today,,,,,


so far they are batting 1000... 1 for 1, seems like good odds to me...

They are building the Mega-Mosque in memory of their fallen (9-11)comrades and to the impending Muslim conquest of western life and culture.

Even now, all the protesters that show up en contra are on their list. As well as those who oppose via internet. They will deal with all of us to show how mighty their Allah and Mohammed are.

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Wed 08/03/11 01:05 PM

uhuh, and in the 18 and 1900's Africans and caucasions were causing havoc on each other in AFRICA

but my question was about here in AMERICA, today,,,,,


WRONG! BLACKS SOLD BLACKS INTO SLAVERY! Get your historical facts straight!

Also Islam is NOT a religion of Tolerance! Tolerance is given where it is shown!

If I lived in New York I would be vandalizing the site of that proposed mosque. I also would be out to hurt and possibly maim anyone working on it! Can't you see this as a violation of the memory of what happened to us at the hands of Islamic "extremists?" You don't get it, do you? You don't seem to understand how Islam operates or the psychology behind what they do. It is a religion of fear, murder, and subjugation. So if they want to impose themselves upon us here they had better get ready for those of us who revile them and will do something to protect our homes and fellow citizens from them.

Allow me to spell this out in clear English, they are INVADING US and trying to destroy our way of life and personal freedom in the name of Allah and Mohamed!

Have you ever heard some of the crap these Imans speak?

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Wed 08/03/11 01:18 PM
uhuh, and in the 18 and 1900's Africans and caucasions were causing havoc on each other in AFRICA

Make no mistake, Islam is Racist

Tabari II:11 "Shem, the son of Noah was the father of the Arabs, the Persians, and the Greeks; Ham was the father of the Black Africans; and Japheth was the father of the Turks and of Gog and Magog who were cousins of the Turks. Noah prayed that the prophets and apostles would be descended from Shem and kings would be from Japheth. He prayed that the African's color would change so that their descendants would be slaves to the Arabs and Turks."

Tabari II:21 "Ham [Africans] begat all those who are black and curly-haired, while Japheth [Turks] begat all those who are full-faced with small eyes, and Shem [Arabs] begat everyone who is handsome of face with beautiful hair. Noah prayed that the hair of Ham's descendants would not grow beyond their ears, and that whenever his descendants met Shem's, the latter would enslave them."

Bukhari:V4B52N137 "The Prophet said, 'Let the negro slave of Dinar perish. And if he is pierced with a thorn, let him not find anyone to take it out for him.... If he [the black slave] asks for anything it shall not be granted, and if he needs intercession [to get into paradise], his intercession will be denied.'"

And there's lots more ....

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Wed 08/03/11 06:02 PM

uhuh, and in the 18 and 1900's Africans and caucasions were causing havoc on each other in AFRICA

Make no mistake, Islam is Racist

Tabari II:11 "Shem, the son of Noah was the father of the Arabs, the Persians, and the Greeks; Ham was the father of the Black Africans; and Japheth was the father of the Turks and of Gog and Magog who were cousins of the Turks. Noah prayed that the prophets and apostles would be descended from Shem and kings would be from Japheth. He prayed that the African's color would change so that their descendants would be slaves to the Arabs and Turks."

Tabari II:21 "Ham [Africans] begat all those who are black and curly-haired, while Japheth [Turks] begat all those who are full-faced with small eyes, and Shem [Arabs] begat everyone who is handsome of face with beautiful hair. Noah prayed that the hair of Ham's descendants would not grow beyond their ears, and that whenever his descendants met Shem's, the latter would enslave them."

Bukhari:V4B52N137 "The Prophet said, 'Let the negro slave of Dinar perish. And if he is pierced with a thorn, let him not find anyone to take it out for him.... If he [the black slave] asks for anything it shall not be granted, and if he needs intercession [to get into paradise], his intercession will be denied.'"

And there's lots more ....



Minor correction, Colonialist Europeans and Native Africans were causing havoc in Africa.

And I am so glad to see you too have read what I feel is the worst book since the bible for tales of raw violence and evildoing.

Liberals sold their soul to idealism and they cannot see what the problem is until the very criminals they have been defending finally turn on them!

Coexistence indeed....spock

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Wed 08/03/11 06:04 PM


uhuh, and in the 18 and 1900's Africans and caucasions were causing havoc on each other in AFRICA

but my question was about here in AMERICA, today,,,,,


WRONG! BLACKS SOLD BLACKS INTO SLAVERY! Get your historical facts straight!

Also Islam is NOT a religion of Tolerance! Tolerance is given where it is shown!

If I lived in New York I would be vandalizing the site of that proposed mosque. I also would be out to hurt and possibly maim anyone working on it! Can't you see this as a violation of the memory of what happened to us at the hands of Islamic "extremists?" You don't get it, do you? You don't seem to understand how Islam operates or the psychology behind what they do. It is a religion of fear, murder, and subjugation. So if they want to impose themselves upon us here they had better get ready for those of us who revile them and will do something to protect our homes and fellow citizens from them.

Allow me to spell this out in clear English, they are INVADING US and trying to destroy our way of life and personal freedom in the name of Allah and Mohamed!

Have you ever heard some of the crap these Imans speak?



so you would want to maim anyone 'working' on a site you find offensive? doesnt sound too much different from the mindset of terrorists,,,


but in any case, slavery isnt the only racial havoc that has occured in history,, and yes, whites did buy slaves in AFrica, and yes whites did have oppressionist regimes during Apartheid, and yes

the races did cause havoc on each other in AFRICA


but the topic I was actually discussing was AMERICANS today(including those of muslim faith)

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Wed 08/03/11 06:13 PM



uhuh, and in the 18 and 1900's Africans and caucasions were causing havoc on each other in AFRICA

but my question was about here in AMERICA, today,,,,,


WRONG! BLACKS SOLD BLACKS INTO SLAVERY! Get your historical facts straight!

Also Islam is NOT a religion of Tolerance! Tolerance is given where it is shown!

If I lived in New York I would be vandalizing the site of that proposed mosque. I also would be out to hurt and possibly maim anyone working on it! Can't you see this as a violation of the memory of what happened to us at the hands of Islamic "extremists?" You don't get it, do you? You don't seem to understand how Islam operates or the psychology behind what they do. It is a religion of fear, murder, and subjugation. So if they want to impose themselves upon us here they had better get ready for those of us who revile them and will do something to protect our homes and fellow citizens from them.

Allow me to spell this out in clear English, they are INVADING US and trying to destroy our way of life and personal freedom in the name of Allah and Mohamed!

Have you ever heard some of the crap these Imans speak?



so you would want to maim anyone 'working' on a site you find offensive? doesnt sound too much different from the mindset of terrorists,,,


but in any case, slavery isnt the only racial havoc that has occured in history,, and yes, whites did buy slaves in AFrica, and yes whites did have oppressionist regimes during Apartheid, and yes

the races did cause havoc on each other in AFRICA


but the topic I was actually discussing was AMERICANS today(including those of muslim faith)


you brought up whites and africans,, and i answered that, they destroyed a complex of buildings, and are building a mosque there in its place... when they destroy more buildings, they will build more buildings.... i really don't know why you asked, you know they only destroyed 1 so far...and building 1 mosque in its place.

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Wed 08/03/11 06:18 PM
Let's put it this way, first of all I have asked you repeatedly if you could live under Sharia law and you ALWAYS dodge the question!

That mosque is an insult. Worst is our elected officials are hell bent for leather to impress upon us their world views even at the expense of good taste, common sense, and also their WORLD CULTURE. Islam resorts to violence when they get the chance. They defile sacred ground.The sick thing is more so than anything that our elected officials take money from these azzholes and let them do as they will as long as they get their money! Public opinion be damned. If I was living in New York I would be eager to know the face of the man I would hit with a brick in the face if I seen him walking the streets, the man funding and building this atrocity! So if protests don't work, lawsuits and injunctions, and likewise public outcry denouncing this slap in the face of America well,

If violence was acceptable for your BOY Malcolm X because he was so oppressed then GUESS WHAT, why isn't it acceptable to those of us who know what this mosque is?

What is the color of Hypocrisy? I will walk in peace with those who walk in peace with me. Those who chose to wish me harm on the other hand deserve no consideration!

So now what? Is my evil showing? Like I care or consider that a bad thing considering how evil Islam IS!

So it is terror trying to keep a "bad tenant" out of our home? It is terror preventing evil people from glorifying their own evil in our collective face? They flew planes into our buildings, they KILL innocent people every day!

There is no such thing as a peaceful Islam!

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