I always found it strange that two grown adults sometimes have such a hard time negotiating issues like broken promises (small ones, the big ones are a whole different issue altogether) or accidentally offending the other unknowingly.

Now personally when I am offended Sorry does not cut it. It is so easy to say "Sorry" when you do something that can potentially fuque someone up. I do mean it in the potty mouth sense of hurting someone so badly they are emotionally bleeding. A lot of times people intentionally do go out of their way to punish the other for slights unknown and in turn cause a cascade of misery. Example, A guy has been dating for about two years and the ex GF comes back into the picture as a friend. Now in reality the Ex likewise is involved with a new relationship but the two happened to be very good dancers and like to spend time dancing with each other becasue it is fun and they even invite the current girl who doesn't dance just to go out and have some fun. Now as a few months go by and suddenly his work calls him telling him he has a special project and he needs to do overtime to get it done. Suddenly he isn't going out at all and busting his *** performing his job (and here is where the devil is in the details) there is a movie coming out and the current GF has to see it the night of opening but her BF has to work overtime and doesn't come home until midnight. Wheels begin to turn. And in true sense of logic that makes no sense decides he is cheating on her and likewise decides to get back at him and she screws the guy in question's EX GIRLFRIEND'S BOYFRIEND in retaliation. And then after she finally gets the courage up to confront her boyfriend with "I know you are cheating." After a few well placed phone calls it is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt along with copies of his time slips from work that came with his paycheck. now keep in mind guy in question really does love his GF and his EX were really just good friends and she had her own life and likewise proved where she was during the dates in question. And then finally the truth comes out and "Oh, Boo, Hoo, Hoo!" Imagine being the poor bastard being put through all of that only to find out the significant other did you like that on an assumed accusation. I know someone who lived this nightmare. How does Sorry cover that?

Next, a good friend of mine wanted to buy his wife a car (I told him was a huge mistake) because she wanted to pick the car and had NO experience behind the wheel of a muscle car. This was in like 88 or 89. Well, she did a little homework and just HAD to have a 69 Chevel SS and the one she found on a dealer lot had a BEEFY Twin 4 barrel carb rack set atop an aluminum 454 boasting about 650 hp. No it wasn't stock but it was SUPER BAD ***! She went for a test drive and burned rubber down Hawthorne Blvd lifting the fronts off of the ground. She turned a corner and wrecked to the peeling sound of brakes applied too late. She did more than total that car. She made her car one with a parked car. She got out of it with scratches but the guy going on the test drive with her got a broken arm. He supported her (she didn't have a job) and she neglected to tell him she didn't have insurance. After about $46K between the two cars and medical bills (She hit a parked car flat on the rear!) he was seriously contemplating divorcing her. You could say Sorry a million times and it just isn't anywhere near enough. Bear in mind $46,000 was a LOT OF MONEY back in 88. It is today but back then hurt more.

Being late for a movie for being a slo-mo is trivial and sorry is accomplished by making it up to her by catching a different showing the next day with dinner too!

Blowing that out of proportion is weak!

Being late becasue you are a slo-mo and you miss a flight, you are an AZZHOLE. I spit in your eye! Break out your wallet and get the next flight you thoughtless choad or never find forgiveness unless you come up with something spectacular to recoup your position! This I will agree is pretty big. Plane Tickets are not cheap as is the trip associated with it.

Your kid is having a recital but you go out drinking with friends instead? BASTARD!!! She deserves to be mad and there is a way of recouping but you might not like it and NO it has nothing to do with sex. Get ready to help with homework! For months... EARN YOUR PENANCE! Women take some small things seriously and YOUR KIDS IS ONE OF THEM! I AM A PIG AND I KNOW THIS!

Forgiveness is relative to two things, the nature and depth of the offense, and the amount of "heart" or forgiveness factor (also called Bullshitte Threshold). Put both on opposite ends of a beam and adjust for personality! When it tips over there will be no forgiveness!

This is how I see a relationship:

Get it? Takes two to make it work!

I have no problem saying I"m sorry and admittng I am wrong

Sorry is so easily said, But the sincerity should be part of the heart.

I agree, I guess there are those that say it with no sincerity, however for me, if i don't mean it I'm not saying it period.

ohhhhhhhhhhhhh I thought you were using the pic to show it is a woman that holds a man up I am sooooooo kidding!

I thought that the see-saw meant in a symbolic way, that while one is happy, the other must be necessarily depressed. Then I thought, maybe it means that nobody can be on top at the same time -- sometimes the woman rides the man, sometimes the cowboy lies down on top of broadway.

Then I thought, to the hell with trying to figure it out; the only thing that we can know for sure, is that they do it long enough and both will be puking like bazookas. I always did with my girlfriend when i was four and she was five, after a certain time spent on the up-down game.

But....she's not trying to CHANGE him. There's no way this is anything like a relationship....!

may be friendship

@wux - whatever it is, the metaphor is mixed

you like it?

I like people loving one another as equals

I believe that is what life all about . Loving one another ,I love you artgurl

wow!!!! Thanks for the beautiful flower

Alright, I'm going to be blunt. Saying 'sorry' is easy, but the thing that has always echoed in my life is the simple saying of, "Actions are louder then words." I'm not going to take an apology unless they mean it, and they back it up with actions. I would try to do the same for them, and if I can't, we'd need to sit down and talk.

I'm more of an old fashioned girl, I like a kind man, I like a nice one, who isn't going to yell at me for little things I didn't mean to do. I don't say there's no arguments, that's a part of relationships. But I'd much rather have them over important issues.

i always say sor ,even is i knw shld b e recervng end,smtym its e best 2 let e dust settle !

That wus g nice 1

won't you say sorry before speaking by action?