Topic: Is Sugardaddying Prostitution?
mightymoe's photo
Mon 06/27/11 03:15 PM



I think a better question is how is it constitutional to tell someone they can't sell their own body. I mean with sex itself not being outlawed I find that rather strange.
The constitution says nothing on the matter, so I wouldn't pose the question in that way.

I agree the point of contention is about government dictating morality where there is no victim.

In and of itself, selling your time in a sexual encounter is a victimless crime. Adding onto that coercion, or force makes it a crime with a victim.

However from the fundamental perspective of freedom, one should be able to engage in whatever behaviors that do not take away someone else liberty, damage property, or take away the ability to achieve happiness.

So from that perspective I think prostitution should be legal along with all other victimless crimes. The nanny state should end, personal responsibility should be our focus.


Bushibillyclub,

I suggest that prostitution be decriminalized, not "legalized." If it is legalized that is where the government would be collecting taxes and being a pimp and regulating everything.






same thing, if it's not illegal, it's legal, if it's not legal, it's illegal... the government will stick there fingers in it either way, just depends on which way they make more money...

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Mon 06/27/11 03:23 PM




I think a better question is how is it constitutional to tell someone they can't sell their own body. I mean with sex itself not being outlawed I find that rather strange.
The constitution says nothing on the matter, so I wouldn't pose the question in that way.

I agree the point of contention is about government dictating morality where there is no victim.

In and of itself, selling your time in a sexual encounter is a victimless crime. Adding onto that coercion, or force makes it a crime with a victim.

However from the fundamental perspective of freedom, one should be able to engage in whatever behaviors that do not take away someone else liberty, damage property, or take away the ability to achieve happiness.

So from that perspective I think prostitution should be legal along with all other victimless crimes. The nanny state should end, personal responsibility should be our focus.


Bushibillyclub,

I suggest that prostitution be decriminalized, not "legalized." If it is legalized that is where the government would be collecting taxes and being a pimp and regulating everything.






same thing, if it's not illegal, it's legal, if it's not legal, it's illegal... the government will stick there fingers in it either way, just depends on which way they make more money...


Not the same thing. To "decriminalize" it is just to ignore it. To "legalize it" means they will start regulating it.

But you are right, if you make an income, they want you to pay income tax, which is supposed to be 'voluntary' anyway.


Kleisto's photo
Mon 06/27/11 03:29 PM





I think a better question is how is it constitutional to tell someone they can't sell their own body. I mean with sex itself not being outlawed I find that rather strange.
The constitution says nothing on the matter, so I wouldn't pose the question in that way.

I agree the point of contention is about government dictating morality where there is no victim.

In and of itself, selling your time in a sexual encounter is a victimless crime. Adding onto that coercion, or force makes it a crime with a victim.

However from the fundamental perspective of freedom, one should be able to engage in whatever behaviors that do not take away someone else liberty, damage property, or take away the ability to achieve happiness.

So from that perspective I think prostitution should be legal along with all other victimless crimes. The nanny state should end, personal responsibility should be our focus.


Bushibillyclub,

I suggest that prostitution be decriminalized, not "legalized." If it is legalized that is where the government would be collecting taxes and being a pimp and regulating everything.






same thing, if it's not illegal, it's legal, if it's not legal, it's illegal... the government will stick there fingers in it either way, just depends on which way they make more money...


Not the same thing. To "decriminalize" it is just to ignore it. To "legalize it" means they will start regulating it.

But you are right, if you make an income, they want you to pay income tax, which is supposed to be 'voluntary' anyway.




Which is something they don't want you to know I might add.

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Mon 06/27/11 03:33 PM






I think a better question is how is it constitutional to tell someone they can't sell their own body. I mean with sex itself not being outlawed I find that rather strange.
The constitution says nothing on the matter, so I wouldn't pose the question in that way.

I agree the point of contention is about government dictating morality where there is no victim.

In and of itself, selling your time in a sexual encounter is a victimless crime. Adding onto that coercion, or force makes it a crime with a victim.

However from the fundamental perspective of freedom, one should be able to engage in whatever behaviors that do not take away someone else liberty, damage property, or take away the ability to achieve happiness.

So from that perspective I think prostitution should be legal along with all other victimless crimes. The nanny state should end, personal responsibility should be our focus.


Bushibillyclub,

I suggest that prostitution be decriminalized, not "legalized." If it is legalized that is where the government would be collecting taxes and being a pimp and regulating everything.






same thing, if it's not illegal, it's legal, if it's not legal, it's illegal... the government will stick there fingers in it either way, just depends on which way they make more money...


Not the same thing. To "decriminalize" it is just to ignore it. To "legalize it" means they will start regulating it.

But you are right, if you make an income, they want you to pay income tax, which is supposed to be 'voluntary' anyway.




Which is something they don't want you to know I might add.


I say let them BARTER! bigsmile

http://youtu.be/ZmIR64rm1Rk

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Mon 06/27/11 03:37 PM



I think a better question is how is it constitutional to tell someone they can't sell their own body. I mean with sex itself not being outlawed I find that rather strange.
The constitution says nothing on the matter, so I wouldn't pose the question in that way.

I agree the point of contention is about government dictating morality where there is no victim.

In and of itself, selling your time in a sexual encounter is a victimless crime. Adding onto that coercion, or force makes it a crime with a victim.

However from the fundamental perspective of freedom, one should be able to engage in whatever behaviors that do not take away someone else liberty, damage property, or take away the ability to achieve happiness.

So from that perspective I think prostitution should be legal along with all other victimless crimes. The nanny state should end, personal responsibility should be our focus.


Bushibillyclub,

I suggest that prostitution be decriminalized, not "legalized." If it is legalized that is where the government would be collecting taxes and being a pimp and regulating everything.




Well I am no lawyer, but its legal in my state to carry a weapon unconcealed and this is becuase there is no law preventing such. So legal does not necessitate regulation IMHO.

I understand the distinction you where making, and agree, just not sure that in and of itself the word legal implies any kind of regulation.

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Mon 06/27/11 03:44 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 06/27/11 03:46 PM




I think a better question is how is it constitutional to tell someone they can't sell their own body. I mean with sex itself not being outlawed I find that rather strange.
The constitution says nothing on the matter, so I wouldn't pose the question in that way.

I agree the point of contention is about government dictating morality where there is no victim.

In and of itself, selling your time in a sexual encounter is a victimless crime. Adding onto that coercion, or force makes it a crime with a victim.

However from the fundamental perspective of freedom, one should be able to engage in whatever behaviors that do not take away someone else liberty, damage property, or take away the ability to achieve happiness.

So from that perspective I think prostitution should be legal along with all other victimless crimes. The nanny state should end, personal responsibility should be our focus.


Bushibillyclub,

I suggest that prostitution be decriminalized, not "legalized." If it is legalized that is where the government would be collecting taxes and being a pimp and regulating everything.




Well I am no lawyer, but its legal in my state to carry a weapon unconcealed and this is becuase there is no law preventing such. So legal does not necessitate regulation IMHO.

I understand the distinction you where making, and agree, just not sure that in and of itself the word legal implies any kind of regulation.


From what I understand, if they want to "decriminalize" it, they would not have to right new regulations, they would just have to ignore or toss the current ones.

Unfortunately, that also requires a lot of red tape. Removing old laws is more red tape than they want, so they usually just create new laws that override the old ones.

In Colorado, there is a law on the books that states you can hang a horse thief on the spot. Of course you can't do that anymore, but you can shoot an intruder in your house if you fear for your life.

As far as prostitution is concerned, it happens everywhere. Most of the time it is ignored until they concentrate an effort on some area where it seems to be a problem.

Most of the time they just ignore it.




mightymoe's photo
Mon 06/27/11 03:46 PM





I think a better question is how is it constitutional to tell someone they can't sell their own body. I mean with sex itself not being outlawed I find that rather strange.
The constitution says nothing on the matter, so I wouldn't pose the question in that way.

I agree the point of contention is about government dictating morality where there is no victim.

In and of itself, selling your time in a sexual encounter is a victimless crime. Adding onto that coercion, or force makes it a crime with a victim.

However from the fundamental perspective of freedom, one should be able to engage in whatever behaviors that do not take away someone else liberty, damage property, or take away the ability to achieve happiness.

So from that perspective I think prostitution should be legal along with all other victimless crimes. The nanny state should end, personal responsibility should be our focus.


Bushibillyclub,

I suggest that prostitution be decriminalized, not "legalized." If it is legalized that is where the government would be collecting taxes and being a pimp and regulating everything.




Well I am no lawyer, but its legal in my state to carry a weapon unconcealed and this is becuase there is no law preventing such. So legal does not necessitate regulation IMHO.

I understand the distinction you where making, and agree, just not sure that in and of itself the word legal implies any kind of regulation.


From what I understand, if they want to "decriminalize" it, they would not have to right new regulations, they would just have to ignore or toss the current ones.

Unfortunately, that also requires a lot of red tape. Removing old laws is more red tape than they want, so they usually just create new laws that override the old ones.

In Colorado, there is a law on the books that states you can hang a horse thief on the spot. Of course you can't do that anymore, but you can shoot an intruder in your house if you fear for your life.






what if there is no tree around? or if you have no rope? might have to move it to another spot...

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Mon 06/27/11 03:47 PM
I don't know, but I do know how to tie a hangman's noose. bigsmile

Chazster's photo
Mon 06/27/11 04:38 PM

Not the same thing. To "decriminalize" it is just to ignore it. To "legalize it" means they will start regulating it.

But you are right, if you make an income, they want you to pay income tax, which is supposed to be 'voluntary' anyway.



I agree. It would be like a kid mowing the lawn. Technically if he mows lawns and gets pId he should file taxes but the IRS isn't gonna audit kids for not doing taxes for those little paid in cash odd jobs.
In Japan it's all technically illegal but the cops don't do anything. Unless it's a non Japanese group running it lol.

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Mon 06/27/11 04:40 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 06/27/11 04:41 PM


Not the same thing. To "decriminalize" it is just to ignore it. To "legalize it" means they will start regulating it.

But you are right, if you make an income, they want you to pay income tax, which is supposed to be 'voluntary' anyway.



I agree. It would be like a kid mowing the lawn. Technically if he mows lawns and gets pId he should file taxes but the IRS isn't gonna audit kids for not doing taxes for those little paid in cash odd jobs.
In Japan it's all technically illegal but the cops don't do anything. Unless it's a non Japanese group running it lol.


They are on the ***** payroll.( That will probably be bleeped but it is another name for "cat.") --- yep it was bleeped.

We are adults. I hate censorship of my colorful speech.

Chazster's photo
Mon 06/27/11 04:57 PM



Not the same thing. To "decriminalize" it is just to ignore it. To "legalize it" means they will start regulating it.

But you are right, if you make an income, they want you to pay income tax, which is supposed to be 'voluntary' anyway.



I agree. It would be like a kid mowing the lawn. Technically if he mows lawns and gets pId he should file taxes but the IRS isn't gonna audit kids for not doing taxes for those little paid in cash odd jobs.
In Japan it's all technically illegal but the cops don't do anything. Unless it's a non Japanese group running it lol.


They are on the ***** payroll.( That will probably be bleeped but it is another name for "cat.") --- yep it was bleeped.

We are adults. I hate censorship of my colorful speech.

whose on the payroll?

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Mon 06/27/11 06:56 PM




I think a better question is how is it constitutional to tell someone they can't sell their own body. I mean with sex itself not being outlawed I find that rather strange.
The constitution says nothing on the matter, so I wouldn't pose the question in that way.

I agree the point of contention is about government dictating morality where there is no victim.

In and of itself, selling your time in a sexual encounter is a victimless crime. Adding onto that coercion, or force makes it a crime with a victim.

However from the fundamental perspective of freedom, one should be able to engage in whatever behaviors that do not take away someone else liberty, damage property, or take away the ability to achieve happiness.

So from that perspective I think prostitution should be legal along with all other victimless crimes. The nanny state should end, personal responsibility should be our focus.


Bushibillyclub,

I suggest that prostitution be decriminalized, not "legalized." If it is legalized that is where the government would be collecting taxes and being a pimp and regulating everything.




Well I am no lawyer, but its legal in my state to carry a weapon unconcealed and this is becuase there is no law preventing such. So legal does not necessitate regulation IMHO.

I understand the distinction you where making, and agree, just not sure that in and of itself the word legal implies any kind of regulation.



legal doesnt imply regulation

its legal to be promiscuous, the government doesnt get involved in either supporting or condemning such behavior

legalize implies CHANGING the legal status of something that is currently illegal, which implies that the government is already involved in condemning said activity but will begin to support the activity instead(through regulation)

cocaine is currently an illegal substance, the government is involved in condemning those who are caught with it(depending upon their income bracket) and if the decriminalized it that would mean they would no longer condemn or support or regulate it,, if the LEGALIZE it , that means they are going to support its 'responsible' use through regulation,,,

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Mon 06/27/11 07:04 PM
I think with Laws, they are sometimes harder to get rid of than to create.tongue2

Like marriage. It's sometimes harder to get into than out of.laugh

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Mon 06/27/11 07:08 PM

I think with Laws, they are sometimes harder to get rid of than to create.tongue2

Like marriage. It's sometimes harder to get into than out of.laugh



never had that experience, marriage took a trip to an office , signing some papers, and saying I do,, the second time around

divorce is taking lots of MONEY and negotiation, not to mention tracking down and 'serving' the other party

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Mon 06/27/11 07:09 PM


I think with Laws, they are sometimes harder to get rid of than to create.tongue2

Like marriage. It's sometimes harder to get into than out of.laugh



never had that experience, marriage took a trip to an office , signing some papers, and saying I do,, the second time around

divorce is taking lots of MONEY and negotiation, not to mention tracking down and 'serving' the other party


You are right! I had it backwards.

Marriage is easy to get into, and hard to get out of.

Lpdon's photo
Mon 06/27/11 08:16 PM

Yes, I advocate staying single and getting all the sex you want without having someone else telling you that you can't.

You Go Guys! Go get all you can handle. Just be safe. drinker





I'm safe, I pullout. :thumbsup: shades laugh

Lpdon's photo
Mon 06/27/11 08:17 PM



Not the same thing. To "decriminalize" it is just to ignore it. To "legalize it" means they will start regulating it.

But you are right, if you make an income, they want you to pay income tax, which is supposed to be 'voluntary' anyway.



I agree. It would be like a kid mowing the lawn. Technically if he mows lawns and gets pId he should file taxes but the IRS isn't gonna audit kids for not doing taxes for those little paid in cash odd jobs.
In Japan it's all technically illegal but the cops don't do anything. Unless it's a non Japanese group running it lol.


They are on the ***** payroll.( That will probably be bleeped but it is another name for "cat.") --- yep it was bleeped.

We are adults. I hate censorship of my colorful speech.


Just use the $ in the places of the letter S :thumbsup:

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Sat 07/02/11 05:03 PM




To answer the original question....who cares???


if i was rich, i would buy the hottest chick i could...


If I were right I would either have Layla or Candice........love








kelly kelly too




Here ya go...........




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Sat 07/02/11 05:04 PM

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Sat 07/02/11 05:04 PM