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I think a better question is how is it constitutional to tell someone they can't sell their own body. I mean with sex itself not being outlawed I find that rather strange. I agree the point of contention is about government dictating morality where there is no victim. In and of itself, selling your time in a sexual encounter is a victimless crime. Adding onto that coercion, or force makes it a crime with a victim. However from the fundamental perspective of freedom, one should be able to engage in whatever behaviors that do not take away someone else liberty, damage property, or take away the ability to achieve happiness. So from that perspective I think prostitution should be legal along with all other victimless crimes. The nanny state should end, personal responsibility should be our focus. Bushibillyclub, I suggest that prostitution be decriminalized, not "legalized." If it is legalized that is where the government would be collecting taxes and being a pimp and regulating everything. same thing, if it's not illegal, it's legal, if it's not legal, it's illegal... the government will stick there fingers in it either way, just depends on which way they make more money... What do ya think of Karen Angle? 
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hey,, whatever consenting adults want to do with their body,, ,,,
not an issue of law according to the constitution,,, |
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hey,, whatever consenting adults want to do with their body,, ,,, not an issue of law according to the constitution,,, If they are married it is, even if they are consenting adults. AND Prostitution is definately illegal in 49 and a 1/2 of the 50 states, and this is prostitution. |
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hey,, whatever consenting adults want to do with their body,, ,,, not an issue of law according to the constitution,,, If they are married it is, even if they are consenting adults. AND Prostitution is definately illegal in 49 and a 1/2 of the 50 states, and this is prostitution. its not a constitutional law it will change,, eventually,,,, |
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hey,, whatever consenting adults want to do with their body,, ,,, not an issue of law according to the constitution,,, If they are married it is, even if they are consenting adults. AND Prostitution is definately illegal in 49 and a 1/2 of the 50 states, and this is prostitution. Don't you have anything better to worry about? |
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hey,, whatever consenting adults want to do with their body,, ,,, not an issue of law according to the constitution,,, If they are married it is, even if they are consenting adults. AND Prostitution is definately illegal in 49 and a 1/2 of the 50 states, and this is prostitution. Don't you have anything better to worry about? Nope, obviously you don't either. |
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Nope, obviously you don't either. I'm not worried about it. Not even a little. I'm not the one who posted a thread on the subject and kept it going for a week. |
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Edited by
wux
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Sat 07/02/11 06:33 PM
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I never understood why GIVING it away is ok but being paid for it is a crime. Just another opinion though,,lol I kind of agree. Why is it illegal of some woman wants to sell her body? I mean people can sell plasma or blood or eggs, semen. But you can't sell sex. Yet if you want to sleep with every person in town for free thats no problem. Someone was selling his kidneys on eBay. His own, I think only one of the two. It ws still in his body. The bidding reached $5,000,000, when eBay shot downt he deal. In Canada prostitution is dealt differently in each province. In Ontario prostitution is legal. Perfectly fine. It's not against even the Bible (King Ontario version.) But you can't make a deal so you can enter into a prostitutional relationship. You can't offer someone money for sex, or sex to someone for money in exchange. I've been wondering more and more often about this "kept woman" "kept man" deal. I am low-baller (I'm altogether 5'4", and like a good deal too, when there is one) so I would be more than happy with a late-fifties, early sixties woman who is in the least not fat, and decent looking, she by no means has to be modelesque. Ideally I would help her. I lost three girfriends and five girlfriends-to-bees to guys who promised them "help". I now realize that in my age group that is the accepted norm. But how do I advertize that locally? I don't want to make a deal with women on the Internet, as getting to common ground would probably take cross-Atlantic or at least International travel. I want a local gal who is not grotesque-looking, and who could use some modest help. I can't seem to find a venue here in this town where I live now how to accomplish that. I don't see it as prostitution. Some people see any sex given for anything else of value as prostitution. That is not the only quality that must be satisfied for sex to be sold as in prostitution. In modern days, a prostitute also does not enjoy the sex act. The modern prostitute hates it, and hates men even more. So if I have a "kept" woman, and she enjoys the company when we are together, it wouldn't be prostitution. In modern days, a prostitute would go with anyone for a lot of dough, which for some girls means five dollars and up. The choice to enter into the act is not dependent on the guy's attributes, other than money. In the "kept" woman situation, I hope that I am her only friend. In modern days, a prostitute must insist on condoms. If she doesn't, she is dead meat within a year. In a "kept woman" situation, well, at my age and her age, this is a moot question. The modern prostitute makes her clients pay a "danger bonus". I mean, that her business risk is high: cops are after her, drug pushers are after her if she makes debts, and clients can get rough with her. This has to have a financial return in terms of a markup. This is fine business sense. In the case of a "kept lover", the risk of getting arrested or being beaten up for fun, is not at all a real risk, although there is a mathematical probability that it can happen. But that prob. is very low. So... the prostitute proper is haggling with each client each time, she hates her clients and her job, she runs high risks, she has no choice in whom to serve and service, she is better off using condoms, and she is promiscuous because one guy alone can't support her drug habit, no matter what. (Some clients who could single-walletly support her drug habit still don't, because he will keep a classy girlfriend, why not, if he can afford it, or any number of classy girlfriends. Or he could even be married (gasp!...), in love with his wife, and raising seven children with her AND not see prostitutes AND not have a kept lover. He COULD afford the drug habits of one or more prostitutes, but he is not interested.) The kept woman, on the other hand, has one client, the rate is steady as per pre-agreement, she loves or likes her client, her business risks are low, she does not make love to whom she doesn't want to beyond the one person who is keeping her, she doesn't need to be promiscuous, and she can mutually enjoy sex with her client using no condoms if other precautions are set when necessary. |
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Edited by
wux
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Sat 07/02/11 06:41 PM
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In one way, shape or form the man ALWAYS pays for sex. It could be in the form of dinner, a movie, a ring whatever, the man is still forking out money to get into the "Honeypot" which would make women in general "Prostitutes" and guys in general "Johns" If the above were true, then the holy matrimony in which a man and a woman is joined before god, would also be prostitution, as long as the husband contributes more toward the financial well-being of the family. The above sentence, and the quote have no discrepancies. So I move that there must be more to prostitution than just a money-for-sex exchange, or something of value for sex exchange. I move that the most obvious qualification of a prostitutional relationship is the bi-lateral depersonification of the partner in the relationship. This comes out in uncaring, in hatred, in despising, in forgetting the other the next day, in promiscuity. I wonder what others see in a sex-for-valuables relationship as prostitution and as not. Oh, Ms.Harmony, in Ontario the johns (who are called jons if they are Jewish) can get charged, too, not just the prostitutes. In fact, the police sweeps aimed at easing the voracity of the business in troubled neighbourhoods, usually target the johns and jons, as sweeps that target prostitutes are completely ineffectual. |
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hey,, whatever consenting adults want to do with their body,, ,,, not an issue of law according to the constitution,,, If they are married it is, even if they are consenting adults. AND Prostitution is definately illegal in 49 and a 1/2 of the 50 states, and this is prostitution. its not a constitutional law it will change,, eventually,,,, It's still a law in almost all the states that hasn't changed and there hasn't been an attempt to change it. |
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Nope, obviously you don't either. I'm not worried about it. Not even a little. I'm not the one who posted a thread on the subject and kept it going for a week. I'm not the only one who kept it going, so did you. |
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hey,, whatever consenting adults want to do with their body,, ,,, not an issue of law according to the constitution,,, If they are married it is, even if they are consenting adults. AND Prostitution is definately illegal in 49 and a 1/2 of the 50 states, and this is prostitution. its not a constitutional law it will change,, eventually,,,, It's still a law in almost all the states that hasn't changed and there hasn't been an attempt to change it. abortion laws werent 'changed' until the sixties,, give it time,,,'liberation' comes in waves,,,, |
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Nope, obviously you don't either. I'm not worried about it. Not even a little. I'm not the one who posted a thread on the subject and kept it going for a week. I'm not the only one who kept it going, so did you.  
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hey,, whatever consenting adults want to do with their body,, ,,, not an issue of law according to the constitution,,, If they are married it is, even if they are consenting adults. AND Prostitution is definately illegal in 49 and a 1/2 of the 50 states, and this is prostitution. its not a constitutional law it will change,, eventually,,,, It's still a law in almost all the states that hasn't changed and there hasn't been an attempt to change it. abortion laws werent 'changed' until the sixties,, give it time,,,'liberation' comes in waves,,,, Yea, but they will eventually be fixed. |
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its not a constitutional law it will change,, eventually,,,, ---------------------- It's still a law in almost all the states that hasn't changed and there hasn't been an attempt to change it. ---------------------- both statements have merit. The second statement is true, and it makes no claims of what will happen in the future. the first statement asserts a quality of the status quo, and makes a predcition, which pro usque ad marem can't be proven by logic, it is a statement that only posterity can prove right. ----------------- I don't know what the heck the two of you are arguing about. You are both right, and you are not in contest with each other for the truth value of your own statments. You are saying compatible things, that do not contradict each other. |
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Edited by
jrbogie
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Sun 07/03/11 02:11 AM
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its not a constitutional law it will change,, eventually,,,, both statements have merit. actually neither statement has merit. 1. "it's not a constitutional law." every law is constitutional until and unless it is challenged in federal court and rulued unconstitutional. not unlike being pregnant, you is or you ain't and as a woman ain't pregnant until conception a law ain't unconstitution until a federal judge says so. matters not what we think or how we interpret the constitution and our laws. article three gave those powers EXCLUSIVELY to the federal judiciary. 2. "it will change,, eventually" has no basis in case law. |
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Edited by
s1owhand
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Sun 07/03/11 06:50 AM
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Reminds me of the Uncle Kracker song lyrics in Follow Me...
Won't give you money I can't give you the sky You're better off If you don't ask why I'm not the reason That you go astray And we'll be alright If you don't ask me to stay... 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg4np7GUcSw |
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Uncle Kracker rocks.
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