Bottom line is that he believed in a fake religion and a fake God of Abraham when Abraham is a fictional character.

Find the truth and end the conflicts.

You CLAIM he is fictional but is their proof he never existed? I hear there is archaeological evidence to support his existence in Principles of Archaeology by professor T. Douglas Price.

Judaism, Christianity and Islam are not "fake".

Most of their adherents don't take the bible literally anyway.
I view it as philosophy.



That doesn't mean that the WTC terrorist attacks were not from
al-Qaeda or that there is a global jewish domination conspiracy
as stated in Nazi propaganda you advocate or that white supremacist
nonsense.

Ahhh. The logic of it all! I finally see where the misinformation, lies, deception, misdirection, and general baloney is coming from!
It is obvious Jenniebean and Bestinshow are members of Al Qaida! The hatred of Jews and the American government, the distrust of anyone who supports the real explanation of what happened on 9/11, ... it all fits together.

In the normal world someone is given proper answers to real problems and it is accepted. It this case no math, physics, engineering, sequencing of events, photographic evidence, or knowledgeable explanation matters! Only the story that the US government can't be trusted and we should rely on debunked crazy stories made up by and for people with no education or an axe to grind.

Think about it! Who would have the most to gain by spreading lies about US and Israeli government conspiracies in the US. Al Qaida of course!

It is all so clear now!!!

Nope there is no credible proof he ever existed as far as I know of.
Same goes for Jesus.

If you have any links share them. I will google Price and see what I can find.

Then prove it. Prove that Abraham existed. Prove that Jesus existed. Prove that the Christian religion was not created from pagan beliefs. That is a pretty commonly known fact.

Fake religions.

Mormons. Fake religion.


Where is your convincing credible evidence?



There is also no proof that al-qaeda even exists or that Bin Laden or any of his people are responsible. They can't connect him. It would have never held up in court. There is no evidence.

That is why the did not take him alive. That is why they assassinated an unarmed man.

It is always convenient to have a made up enemy to blame everything on and misdirect people's attention to.

Aren't you tired of the government telling you who you are supposed to fear and or hate? I am.

Metalwing, now it is up to you then, to provide proof that Abraham really existed.

Provid proof that Jesus ever existed.

For that matter provide proof of the God of Abraham that all these religions stem from exists or ever existed.

I want proof or I have to conclude that the Bible is a work of fiction. No I demand proof or else all of your claims and beliefs in any of these religious notions and dogma that seem to be at the center of all wordy conflicts is a big fat huge lie and conspiracy.

Because your stories don't add up and they don't make sense.

The chosen people do not exist.

It is all a big fat lie. All of it.

Find the truth and end the tribal conflicts.

Scientology, fake religion based on lies.

Eckankar, fake religion based on lies.

Islam, fake religion based on lies.

Mormons, fake, based on lies.

Judaism, fake, based on lies.

All religions are based on false information.

None of them can prove any of it.

Take the red pill of truth.

None of these religions require that any of these people actually
existed. So you want to prove God? That goes in the religion forum
but if you believe as I do in a pantheistic view of God then God
is obvious and proved trivially and is a single God consistent with
Christianity, Judaism and Islam.

The term "chosen people" has nothing to do with genetics.

The term "chosen people" refers to the concept that Jews, Christians
and Muslims are supposed to lead by example and be a positive
and ethical example to others. Although bigots try to make it seem
like it is genetic in nature or exclusionary which it is not.

I found it here in the Wiki:

"In Judaism, chosenness is the belief that the Jews are a people chosen to be in a covenant with God. In modern day Rabbinical Judaism, the idea is not connected with being the descendants of Jacob (Israel), as it was in Biblical Judaism,[original research?], since non-Jews can become Jews.

The Jewish idea of being chosen is first found in the Torah (five books of Moses) and is elaborated on in later books of the Hebrew Bible. This status carries both responsibilities and blessings as described in the Biblical covenants with God. Much is written about this topic in rabbinic literature.

The chosenness refers to a specific set of responsibilities..."

If that is not a joke, then it is slander.

Are you now going to send in an assassination team to shoot me?

You are unbelievable.

I think it was a joke....

No this is where you are wrong.

They teach that the Bible is the word of God and infallible. They teach that the Bible is true.

The worship the "God of Abraham."

If Abraham does not exist, neither does his God. If Abraham does not exist neither does his descendants and the stories in the Bible are all FICTIONS.

These religions, and the notion that the Jew had the right to invade that area and claim it as their own is all based and supported by religious zealots and no-cons who believe that crap.

This is political, not religious. There is no religion. All of these so-called religions are all based on false information.

But the politics of the world are based on these lies.

Are there any rational people in the world? Does anyone offer proof for their belief in the fictitious God of Abraham?

Nope. They have no evidence, and no proof of any of it. The Bible is Fiction, the religions are based on lies.

If you believe as I do in one God then it is the same one for
everybody - Jews, Christians, Muslims and Wiccans.



You don't even have to believe in God to be religious you know...

Jews have lived in Israel since biblical times. Long before the
Romans, Muslims or Christians were there for example. So why
shouldn't more Jews move back and join the Jews already living
there and re-establish Israel...No big deal. It is a nice
country! Good for all the religions there. Bad for the terrorists.

Even if they did live there, they were not Jews.
They were tribal Khazars. It is a matter of historical fact.

In the time of Pontius Pilate in history there was no religious, racial or national group in Judea known as "Jews" nor had there been any group so identified anywhere else in the world prior to that time.

So-called or self-styled "Jews" in eastern Europe after the conversion of the Khazars the descendants of the Khazars converted to "Talmudism", or as it is now know "Judaism", by the 7th century mass conversion of the Khazar population.

Today, this people, these "converted tribes" who basically invented "Judaism" from "Talmudism" manipulate modern day Christians into believing that they are the "chosen people" of the God of Abraham who is pure fiction.

So these Christians support Zionism, and feel sorry for the Jews because they are so "persecuted" when it is they themselves (Zionist Jews) behind the "persecution" of other Jews who they reject if they are not part of their tribe or bloodline. These so-called Zionist "Jews" supported Hitler. Many of Hiler's top henchmen were of this "Jewish" blood line calling themselves "Christians."

If you don't have a Jewish mother from their tribe guess what? They don't want you.

Well - they might not want YOU - given your peculiar antisemitic
views....believing in false anti-Jewish conspiracy theories and
that some Jews are more Jewish than others if they have different
genes and that Jews had something to do with 9ll and all that
other horsebleep!



But anybody else can be a Jew regardless of their Momma.



Go ask a Rabbi. Any Rabbi. If your mother was Jewish and you
convert to Christianity then that is different than if your
Mom was Christian and you convert to Judaism....



Read a book for crying out loud. Maybe even some of the links
I pointed to like jewfaq.org or the Wikipedia.

All it takes to be Jewish is to follow Judaism...just like any
other religion. That is the defining characteristic.

The fact that people who have the same religion may have some
genetic similarities is natural and occurs for Buddhists as
well as Catholics, Mormons etc. since they tend to marry each
other.

You just have an unnatural, irrational and bigoted Judeophobia!

It will be alright. I promise that no nasty Zionists are out
to get you!!

Stop acting so ridiculous, rude and condescending. That is unexceptionable behavior as far as I am concerned. I am not going to respond to you after this post so you can have your last condescending word.

Anyone can practice Judaism, and anyone can convert to it and call themselves "Jewish."

But not everyone will be accepted as part of the bloodline of that particular tribe. Even people who do may not be involved in the war crimes and criminal activity that are associated with the Warburgs and the Rothchilds. Their organization has been called "The Hidden Hand." That is like "The Black Hand" of the Italian Mafia.

"The Hidden Hand" is a lot larger, more brutal than the "Black Hand." It was this secret society that forged the Protocols under the guise of being written by so-called "Jews."

I am going to ask you politely to stop calling me anti-semitic because you don't even know what that means and it is an ignorant slur used by Zionist propaganda.

I am not anti-semitic, so stop calling me that. It just shows how much you don't know about the research I am doing.

It involves more than Israel, and more that Jews. The Hidden Hand is operating all over the world, including this Country.

They use organizations like the ADL to harass and threaten anyone who tries to expose them or appose them.

So take your blue pill and go back to your remote control.

The ridiculous and false world domination conspiracy theories you advocate here and in the other threads are well known antisemitic propaganda - plagairized from fictional stories that were not about jews. These discredited theories were absolutely used by Nazis to
incite religious hatred against jews in WWII.

It is revolting to see them appear and even be defended here
and I will not refrain from pointing out these lies.

http://mingle2.com/topic/show/304030?page=12

There is no dispute of these facts among true scholars of history
and it's correctly described in the Wikipedia.

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The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a fraudulent, antisemitic text purporting to describe a Jewish plan for achieving global domination. It was first published in Russia in 1903, translated into multiple languages, and disseminated internationally in the early part of the twentieth century. Henry Ford funded printing of 500,000 copies which were distributed throughout the United States in the 1920s.

Adolf Hitler was a major proponent. It was studied, as if factual, in German classrooms after the Nazis came to power in 1933, despite having been exposed as fraudulent years before. In the opinion of historian Norman Cohn, the Protocols was Hitler's primary justification for initiating the Holocaust — his "warrant for genocide."[1]

The Protocols purports to document the minutes of a late 19th-century meeting of Jewish leaders discussing their goal of global Jewish hegemony by subverting the morals of Gentiles, and by controlling the press and the world's economies. It is still widely available today, often offered as a genuine document, on the Internet and in print, in numerous languages.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion

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Anyone can practice Judaism, convert, and correctly call themselves Jewish
BECAUSE THEY WILL BE JEWISH!



The "Hidden Hand" stuff is straight out of Nazi Germany!
It is the stuff of Julius Streicher's Der Giftpilz!
No one is spooked by your jewish world conspiracy lies anymore!



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Streicher

No intelligent reasonable people buy into this nonsense!!
So go ahead and advocate these outdated and discredited conspiracies.

I and others will call you on it and reveal it's complete fabrication and true bigotry.

You will do everyone a service in helping to reveal the persistence
and resilience and utter ridiculous nature of all this
antisemitic garbage!



I thank you for helping shed light on this putrid and vile corner
of ethnic slander and religious hatred!