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Topic: Light Does Not Travel
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Wed 06/15/11 01:25 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 06/15/11 01:28 PM
I also think that one of the reasons the government does not run around chasing and investigating UFO's and other strange phenomenon that are unexplained, (strange lights, crop circles etc.) is because they know what these things are and they know that they are NOT from outer space.

They are glitches in the "matrix" of the universal mind. They pop into and out of existence just like some quantum particles. They cannot be captured and studied like "real" physical objects. They are 'mind stuff.' They are not subject to our physical laws or 'objective' science. They are from a different dimension.

(That is my own idea.)

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Thu 06/16/11 02:39 AM
I suppose that's possible, perhaps not very plausible, but possible none-the-less.

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Thu 06/16/11 07:22 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 06/16/11 07:27 AM

I suppose that's possible, perhaps not very plausible, but possible none-the-less.


I appreciate that.

Seriously I have given all of this a lot of thought... as a whole.
I have looked at mysteries, studied sources, read books from all sides, etc.

I have yet to hear any better explanations for the mysteries of this world than the ones I have come up with. So many people simply close their eyes and their minds to things they can't explain.

Our world is in deep trouble, not from 'aliens,' not from God or the devil, but from the family who infiltrates nations, the banking systems, and they control the media. Their agenda is ultimate world power. This is no conspiracy, it is real. Off topic, but real.

Goodnight folks.huh




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Thu 06/16/11 08:54 AM
No it is not real.

Governments are comprised of literally millions of people. None of which can keep a secret.

A conspiracy theorist will always invent ultimately nefarious and dastardly reasons when in actual fact genuine incompetence was to blame.

There is no conspiracy, there is no new world order, there is no cabal at the heart of the monetary system.

What there is a system with massively complex levers through which some profit and some do no not. Ultimately the system has risen up in such a way that some people start with an advantage over others.

It is that simple. If you don't believe me then run for political office as is your democratic right and see for yourself. Study hard and become a lawyer, Judge or part of the system. Join the military, get a security clearance and enter the intelligence profession.

There is no master plan. Just a collection of events which we constantly react to.

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Thu 06/16/11 10:33 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 06/16/11 10:34 AM
If you want facts you should check out Daryl Bradford Smith

http://www.iamthewitness.com/index.html

That is your best source of history and truth concerning the Illuminati, Rothchild.s etc.

These are not "conspiracy theories." He deals in FACTS.

History has been rewritten, but there is still some true history that
survives.

Many people are learning the truth.


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Thu 06/16/11 12:32 PM
That guy is as much as idiot as Alex Jones.

Please find the following 25 errors in a famous speech that he quotes. Not once has DBS responded to these 25 errors.

http://bluwiki.com/go/The_Benjamin_Freedman_Speech

Why on earth do you buy into this rubbish?? You have to be a forum troll. You have to be. Nobody is that stupid.

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Thu 06/16/11 12:48 PM

If you want facts you should check out Daryl Bradford Smith

http://www.iamthewitness.com/index.html

That is your best source of history and truth concerning the Illuminati, Rothchild.s etc.

These are not "conspiracy theories." He deals in FACTS.

History has been rewritten, but there is still some true history that
survives.

Many people are learning the truth.




I went to your website. It is hard to believe that you think this would be a reliable source for much of anything. Your level of gullibility must extremely high.

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Thu 06/16/11 12:52 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 06/16/11 12:59 PM
Spending five minutes is not enough time to make any judgement like that. He backs his information up with research and facts. You don't take time to look at them.


If you watch and believe the news you see every day on television, it is your level of gullibility I would question.

Oh well.ohwell

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Thu 06/16/11 12:56 PM
I have posted a link to 25 questions which DBS has never responded to.

The man is mentally ill and there is an going debate about his welfare on his Wikipedia page.

JB you are an internet troll and I claim my five pounds.

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Thu 06/16/11 12:58 PM

I have posted a link to 25 questions which DBS has never responded to.

The man is mentally ill and there is an going debate about his welfare on his Wikipedia page.

JB you are an internet troll and I claim my five pounds.



laugh laugh laugh laugh

People who tell the truth are taking a risk.
The criminals don't like the truth to be public.


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Thu 06/16/11 01:01 PM

That guy is as much as idiot as Alex Jones.

Please find the following 25 errors in a famous speech that he quotes. Not once has DBS responded to these 25 errors.

http://bluwiki.com/go/The_Benjamin_Freedman_Speech

Why on earth do you buy into this rubbish?? You have to be a forum troll. You have to be. Nobody is that stupid.



There are a lot of stupid people in this world. I'm not one of them.
But there is no need to resort to personal insults. If you don't want to learn what's really going on, its your business.

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Thu 06/16/11 01:04 PM
Anyway, I'm done here and this is off topic anyway.

Its not worth it to me.


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Thu 06/16/11 01:14 PM
Which is code for "I have no response or intelligent answers so therefore I am leaving".


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Thu 06/16/11 05:19 PM


Why on earth do you buy into this rubbish?? You have to be a forum troll. You have to be. Nobody is that stupid.


Jeannie is not a troll, and she is not stupid. She hasn't been exposed to the same information that you and I have been exposed to.

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Thu 06/16/11 07:37 PM
Edited by metalwing on Thu 06/16/11 07:43 PM



Why on earth do you buy into this rubbish?? You have to be a forum troll. You have to be. Nobody is that stupid.


Jeannie is not a troll, and she is not stupid. She hasn't been exposed to the same information that you and I have been exposed to.


But when she is exposed to truth she reacts badly. There are many without formal education who do not act this way.

If half a dozen members of the tire making industry told me that tires were made of rubber, I would accept that as truth. If one obscure source told me that tires were made of alien porta-can waste, I would be very skeptical. JB would go with the porta-can theory every time.

For the record"

An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.

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Fri 06/17/11 02:27 AM

iamthewitness.com

Is a hate website. It is antisemitic dealing in the same kind of antijewish Nazi propaganda as that published by Hitler's Der Sturmer and the likewise vile open rants from the Dearborn Independent.

"The Hidden Govt" etc.

It is just more rehashing of the completely false and widely
discredited "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" which has been
used in various forms to justify discrimination and violence
against jewish people.

I am very surprised that JB would cite this wrong and hateful
propaganda. Sad. It is wrong and it is Hate Speech.

http://www.adl.org/special_reports/ij/intro.asp

One should refrain from trying to re-establish 1920's style
antisemitism in the 21st century. It's repugnant.


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Fri 06/17/11 03:36 AM
Troll, propaganda. I won't be reading anymore of JB's threads. I'm out of here as fast as light. Of course JB says light doesn't travel. Okay, out of here as fast as a click. Works for me.

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Fri 06/17/11 09:36 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 06/17/11 09:43 AM
Anti-Zionism is not anti-semitic. You need to educate yourselves.

These people are against the criminals who call themselves Jewish and are not. They are atheists and have nothing to do with the Jewish religion. Criminals are criminals. Wake up. Don't fall for that anti-Semitic crap. That is propaganda. Real Jews are religious and peaceful. They are against Zionism.

Zionism is a political movement. Before jumping to your brain washed conclusions do a little more research.

Quote:
From the beginning, political Zionism was a controversial movement even among Jews. So strong was the opposition of German orthodox and reform rabbis to the Zionist idea in the name of Judaism that Theodor Herzl changed the venue of the First Zionist Congress in 1897 from Munich to Basle in Switzerland.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/dec/03/comment

There will be a lot of propaganda and many opinions about this, don't form any opinion until you have researched it and thought about it.



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Fri 06/17/11 09:42 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 06/17/11 09:58 AM
It is just more rehashing of the completely false and widely
discredited "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" which has been
used in various forms to justify discrimination and violence
against jewish people.


The Protocols of the Elders of Zion was not "discredited." I think it was called "a forgery" but by whom? Investigate the investigator.huh

If you ever read them, and looked around at what is happening, you would see proof positive that everything in them has and is being done in exactly the way it describes.

Wake up and do some REAL research. You guys claim to be scientists and observers.... well then... OBSERVE.

I certainly don't expect and don't want you to "believe me." I want you to do your own honest unbiased research.

Isn't that what you keep telling me about your scientific knowledge? Go get an education, you say. Well I'm saying that to you now.

Talk to some real Jews who are against Zionism. INTERVIEW THEM IN PERSON. You will learn a lot.

Listen to and watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dSHl3C9kgY






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Fri 06/17/11 10:58 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 06/17/11 11:05 AM
About Semitic and the term Anti-Semitic: (Wikipedia)

The term Semite means a member of any of various ancient and modern Semitic-speaking peoples originating in southwestern Asia, including Akkadians, Canaanites, Phoenicians, Hebrews, Arabs, and Ethiopian Semites.

It was proposed at first to refer to the languages related to Hebrew by Ludwig Schlözer, in Eichhorn's "Repertorium", vol. VIII (Leipzig, 1781), p. 161. Through Eichhorn the name then came into general usage (cf. his "Einleitung in das Alte Testament" (Leipzig, 1787), I, p. 45). In his "Geschichte der neuen Sprachenkunde", pt. I (Göttingen, 1807) it had already become a fixed technical term.[1]

The word "Semitic" is an adjective derived from Shem, one of the three sons of Noah in the Bible (Genesis 5.32, 6.10, 10.21), or more precisely from the Greek derivative of that name, namely Σημ (Sēm); the noun form referring to a person is Semite.



Here is how the term was propagandized as meaning against Jews only which is how most people think of it today.


The term "anti-Semitic" (or "anti-Semite") overwhelmingly refers to Jews only. It was coined in 1879 by German journalist Wilhelm Marr in a pamphlet called, "The Victory of Germandom over Jewry". Using ideas of race and nationalism, Marr argued that Jews had become the first major power in the West. He accused them of being liberals, a people without roots who had Judaized Germans beyond salvation. In 1879 Marr founded the "League for Anti-Semitism".[2]

The concept of "Semitic" peoples is derived from Biblical accounts of the origins of the cultures known to the ancient Hebrews. Those closest to them in culture and language were generally deemed to be descended from their forefather Shem. Enemies were often said to be descendants of his cursed nephew, Canaan.

In Genesis 10:21-31, Shem is described as the father of Aram, Asshur, and Arpachshad: the Biblical ancestors of the Arabs, Aramaeans, Assyrians, Babylonians, Chaldeans, Sabaeans, and Hebrews, etc., all of whose languages are closely related; the language family containing them was therefore named Semitic by linguists. However, the Canaanites and Amorites also spoke a language belonging to this family, and are therefore also termed Semitic in linguistics, despite being described in Genesis as sons of Ham (See Sons of Noah). Shem is also described in Genesis as the father of Elam and Lud, although the Elamites and Lydians usually thought to descend from these spoke languages that were not Semitic.


The hypothetical Proto-Semitic language, ancestral to historical Semitic languages in the Middle East, is thought to have been originally from either the Arabian Peninsula (particularly around Yemen) or the adjacent Ethiopian highlands. But its region of origin is still much debated and uncertain with, for example, a recent bayesian analysis identifying an origin for Semitic languages in the Levant around 5,750 BP with a single introduction from southern Arabia into Africa around 2,800 BP.[3] The Semitic language family is also considered a component of the larger Afroasiatic macro-family of languages. Identification of the hypothetical proto-Semitic region of origin is therefore dependent on the larger geographic distributions of the other language families within Afroasiatic.




You really don't know me.

My primary focus in my entire life has been to find truth in a world of deception and lies. That is all.

In doing so, I have been called names like: "paranoid" "crazy" "stupid" "ignorant" just to mention a small few. (I don't care, I just consider the source. I have no idea what they think they know.)

When I talk about the Zionist movement I am called "anti-Semitic" which has come to mean "against Jews" because of the German journalist Wilhelm Marr in a pamphlet called, "The Victory of Germandom over Jewry' which probably aided Hitler in world war II.

If I am against Zionism does that make me "racist?" Some uninformed people think so. But how is that possible since Zionists are mostly white caucasin? That does not make any logical sense does it?

If Zionism is not Judaism, then what is meant by the term "Jewish?" Is it a religion or a race? If it is a race, what kind of race? Is there a blood line involved here? What bloodline is it?

Then ask yourself and investigate the Royal bloodlines of the world. Look at the Queen of England. Do your own investigations before you call me names.

There are many different kinds of people who claim to be "Jews." There are also people who are of that royal blood line who deny it and claim to be Christian or something else.

The religion Judaism is not necessarily connected to that bloodline.








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