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Thu 06/16/11 01:14 PM
Which is code for "I have no response or intelligent answers so therefore I am leaving".


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Thu 06/16/11 12:56 PM
I have posted a link to 25 questions which DBS has never responded to.

The man is mentally ill and there is an going debate about his welfare on his Wikipedia page.

JB you are an internet troll and I claim my five pounds.

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Thu 06/16/11 12:32 PM
That guy is as much as idiot as Alex Jones.

Please find the following 25 errors in a famous speech that he quotes. Not once has DBS responded to these 25 errors.

http://bluwiki.com/go/The_Benjamin_Freedman_Speech

Why on earth do you buy into this rubbish?? You have to be a forum troll. You have to be. Nobody is that stupid.

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Thu 06/16/11 08:54 AM
No it is not real.

Governments are comprised of literally millions of people. None of which can keep a secret.

A conspiracy theorist will always invent ultimately nefarious and dastardly reasons when in actual fact genuine incompetence was to blame.

There is no conspiracy, there is no new world order, there is no cabal at the heart of the monetary system.

What there is a system with massively complex levers through which some profit and some do no not. Ultimately the system has risen up in such a way that some people start with an advantage over others.

It is that simple. If you don't believe me then run for political office as is your democratic right and see for yourself. Study hard and become a lawyer, Judge or part of the system. Join the military, get a security clearance and enter the intelligence profession.

There is no master plan. Just a collection of events which we constantly react to.

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Tue 06/14/11 05:06 PM


Why are all humans not born with the innate belief and proof that such a spiritual force is present.


Some are.



I said why are not ALL humans.


Why do we need to discover it? Why you and not me?


Some never do.

Why are all humans not born with knowledge? Why do they have to discover it? Why are some people smarter than others? Why are some more gifted?




All humans are born with knowledge. Noam Chomsky has shown that linguistics is an innate ability. We are also born with the knowledge that we can give visual and audible alarms when we require feeding or are physiologically uncomfortable.

We are born with the knowledge to recoil and avoid pain wherever possible until we develop a cognitive process to overcome the feeling.

So now that we have put that rest maybe you can answer my question.

It is acceptable to say that you can't by the way. Because we both know you actually can't.

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Tue 06/14/11 04:58 PM


That is not an answer since ALL psychics are fake.

Will you answer my questions or merely dodge around the fact that your viewpoints do not stand up to any scrutiny other than a simple self assessment you conjured to convince yourself.


No, all psychics are not fake. That is simply your belief.




:-D haha. Name one genuine psychic. You cannot because it is fake. You have the audacity to call magicians con men and say the peddle deceit but then believe in psychic abilities?

You are so far off the reservation it is no longer worth engaging with you.


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Tue 06/14/11 04:55 PM
No I just confuse it with communications from a supreme spiritual being talking directly to my soul.

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Tue 06/14/11 04:53 PM
That is not an answer since ALL psychics are fake.

Will you answer my questions or merely dodge around the fact that your viewpoints do not stand up to any scrutiny other than a simple self assessment you conjured to convince yourself.

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Tue 06/14/11 04:50 PM
Edited by Zen_Pro on Tue 06/14/11 04:51 PM

The famous magician Randi is a con man?


Sorry, In my opinion all magicians skilled in the art of tricks and illusions are what I consider "con men."

The deal in deceit.



Actually they deal in entertainment.

By such a logic you would also consider actors con men and a television, theatre production or radfio broadcast would also be considered deceit.

But don't try and struggle out of what you said. I listed a ton of various other organisations.

Why in 150 years of testing has not ONE single person ever even remotely proved such abilities exist?

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Tue 06/14/11 04:47 PM
I already practise yoga for martial arts flexibility.

Feel free to answer my questions.

Why are all humans not born with the innate belief and proof that such a spiritual force is present.

Why do we need to discover it? Why you and not me?

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Tue 06/14/11 04:44 PM
The famous magician Randi is a con man?

I will LOVE to hear how you discovered this. OK. Well since you have no idea what you are talking about, how about all of these other organisations that offer a cash prize...


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There are others offering prizes to anyone who can demonstrate psychic powers. After collecting the million dollars from Randi, successful psychics might go to India and contact B. Premanand who will pay Rs. 100,000 "to any person or persons who will demonstrate any psychic, supernatural of paranormal ability of any kind under satisfactory observing conditions." Also, "Prabir Ghosh will pay Rs. 20,00,000* to anyone who claims to possess supernatural power of any kind and proves the same without resorting to any trick in the location specified by Prabir Ghosh."

The Australian Skeptics offer $100,000 (Australian), $80,000 for the psychic and $20,000 for anyone "who nominates a person who successfully completes the Australian Skeptics Challenge." If you nominate yourself, and are successful, you get the whole hundred grand.

The Association for Skeptical Inquiry (ASKE), a U.K. skeptic organization, offers £12,000 for proof of psychic powers.

The Independent Investigations Group "offers a $50,000 prize to anyone who can show, under proper observing conditions, evidence of any paranormal, supernatural, or occult power or event."

The North Texas Skeptics offer $12,000 to any person who can demonstrate any psychic or paranormal power or ability under scientifically valid observing conditions.

The Quebec Skeptics offer $10,000 to any astrologer who can demonstrate her craft according in a formal scientific experiment.

The Tampa Bay Skeptics offer $1,000 to anyone able to demonstrate any paranormal phenomenon under mutually agreed-upon observing conditions.

A group in New Zealand calling itself "Immortality" is offering a prize of $NZ2,000,000 to anyone "who can display an actual paranormal ability, under controlled conditions." One million goes to the successful applicant and one million to the charity of his or her choice.

Finally, conjurer Chris Angel offered $1,000,000 of his own money to Uri Geller and Jim Callahan if they could psychically determine the contents of an envelope he held in his hand. The offer was in response to Callahan's claim that his performance of a trick on a TV show called "Phenomenon" was aided by spirit guide.

The offer of cash prizes as an incentive to so-called psychics to prove their claims is not new. In 1922, Scientific American offered two $2,500 awards, one for the first person who could produce an authentic spirit photograph under test conditions and the other for the first medium to produce an authentic "visible psychic manifestation"

One would think that after more than 150 years of scientific testing of psychics, there would be at least one who could demonstrate a single psychic ability under test conditions. Parapsychologist Dean Radin claims the evidence for psychic phenomena is so strong that only bias and prejudice keep skeptics from accepting the reality of ESP or PK. Why doesn't he claim the million dollar prize, then? According to Radin:

for the types of psi effects observed in the laboratory, even a million dollar prize wouldn't cover the costs of conducting the required experiment. Assuming we'd need to show odds against chance of say 100 million to 1 to win a million dollar prize, when you calculate how many repeated trials, selected participants, multiple experimenters, and skeptical observers are necessary to achieve this outcome, the combined costs turn out to be more than the prize. So, from a purely pragmatic perspective, the various prizes offered so far aren't sufficiently enticing. (Radin 2006: 291)

The fact is that most parapsychologists have given up trying to find a single person with a single paranormal ability. They study groups of people and collect gobs of data, hoping to find a statistic not likely due to chance, which they then declare to be evidence of psi because it is their hypothesis that if the statistic is not likely due to chance then it is reasonable to conclude that it is due to psi. In other words, they've gone from being duped by con artists to duping themselves.


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Tue 06/14/11 04:34 PM
Why have you alone been selected for the experience?

I pay my taxes, defend my country, act kindly towards others and obey the laws, written and unwritten of society.

Why have I, or 99% of all other people not experienced such a being?

Why does a child, with no pre-conditioning, not conceive of a religion unless they are indoctrinated into it?

Surely if we are indeed recipients of a higher consciousness then it would make sense for all of us to be innately born with the knowledge and not have to discover it through hallucinigenic properties or practices including oxygen hyperventilation or deprivation etc.

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Tue 06/14/11 04:31 PM
Such things are not possible.

There has been a prize for anyone that could prove using a reviewed method that ANY supernatural phenomenon exist. Nobody has won it in 30 years.

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Tue 06/14/11 04:28 PM
Edited by Zen_Pro on Tue 06/14/11 04:37 PM
There is no 'flushing' technique and detox is exactly as the OP stated - a myth.

Ben Macintyre puts this nicely to rest in his book Bad Science.

However, a good diet, as close as possible to the neolithic with lots of hydration and no real vices will indeed make you look younger and live longer. There is also evidence to suggest calorie restriction / semi-starvation can add up to 11 years to the life of an average adult.

Both of which detox regimes take advantage of with their claims.

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Tue 06/14/11 04:22 PM
Edited by Zen_Pro on Tue 06/14/11 04:25 PM
Evidence.

And an explanation as to why the being would give human beings the ability to visualise that they themselves are part of the computer.



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Tue 06/14/11 06:38 AM
There has been between 10 and 15 seriously intelligent rebuttals to this nonsense so far and the OP has not deemed it worthy to even acknowledge one of them apart from to argue about the definitions of the words used.

Classic cherry picking and abstract arguments which have no basis or relevance.

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Sun 06/12/11 04:12 PM
the book never said that - it said for "ease of argument" IE let us not get into the semantics of it which is exactly what you have done constantly on this forum.

Name every scientist which agrees with your article that light does not travel. Actually I challenge you to name more than three.


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Sun 06/12/11 01:48 PM
This forum essentially boils down to the following.

Light does not travel because I read an article by a single scientist which said so and therefore I am convinced.

The reason I am convinced is because the Universe is a mirror.

If you question my views with sound, logical and verifiable scientific principles I will ridicule your entire theory based on empirical evidence with the following statements...

*I can't see it so it does not exist
*If it does exist it only exists because we gave it a name
*We as human beings know absolutely nothing. Apart from me and the one scientist who said light does not travel
*But I believe in gravity when I choose to...

...wait...where was I? Oh yeh. Light is not time when time is a metaphysical construct designed by the Architect. The Oracle gave me a red pill and now I come to Mingle to debate.

No time.

Ever.

Or light.

They exist because I alone imagined them.

etc etc ad infinitum...

*Yawn*

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Sat 06/11/11 05:16 AM
Edited by Zen_Pro on Sat 06/11/11 05:21 AM
Yes you should have known better than post ridiculous unsubstantiated comments on a forum filled with people with clearly greater faculties than yourself.

FYI We can observe time even if you are not intelligent enough to understand why. If a set event conducted at the speed of light which remains constant is thus affected for a different outcome then it means that time has indeed been observed and the changes recorded. The proof lies in the variable outcomes which would remain constant if time had not been altered in some way. See Relativity.

If you don't understand a concept then you should not debate, take your one theory that you have (and cling to like a juvenile zealot) and go back to the drawing board.

Goodbye.


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Sat 06/11/11 12:56 AM
Edited by Zen_Pro on Sat 06/11/11 12:59 AM
We actually can observe time and it's relativity through the use of several tools and not all clocks are of an atomic nature so that quote you have above is genuinely incorrect.

The photon light clock is one example, see Elegant Universe (Brian Greene)pages 37-41. This is achieved because the speed of light is constant.

No doubt you will have ridiculous semantics with which to argue with Greene but he covers that quite eloquently in the first two paragraphs anything you might say.

The reason I rest my case is because it has become impossible to give you any answer without finding a flaw in it. At no point have you sat back during 6 pages of discussion and thought "actually, someone else may be correct and I should look into that or give weight to their opinions."

Therefore this discussion has become a zero sum game whereby you seek only to "win" the argument. You don't seek knowledge, you are seeking discord.

Don't reply until you have read those pages on the observation, measurement and calculation of time.

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