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Topic: One God or multiple Gods?
Kleisto Joined Tue 05/13/08 Posts: 5704	Sun 05/15/11 11:46 PM
It is often said in the religious sect,that there is but one God, accept no substitutes, or false Gods before it. But here's something to chew on: If this is true that there is one creator of all and one only, where else is our spiritual energy going to go but this one creator? Whom else can receive and give back, if there is no one else? How can you worship multiple other Gods in this particular sense, if no other Gods really exist? My point is simply this, if there's just one God as are all told, than it would naturally follow, that all paths eventually lead back to that one simply because there is no other to whom it can go to. It wouldn't make a bit of sense otherwise.

SoulAblaze Joined Mon 04/11/11 Posts: 19	Sun 05/15/11 11:56 PM
Many Paths- One Truth. Gods are Tulpas.

Kleisto Joined Tue 05/13/08 Posts: 5704	Mon 05/16/11 12:01 AM
Many Paths- One Truth. Gods are Tulpas. What's tulpas mean?

MorningSong Joined Mon 02/11/08 Posts: 4505	Mon 05/16/11 12:52 AM Edited by MorningSong on Mon 05/16/11 01:23 AM
Kliesto..., after you click on the link (below) ,also look for the " search box" , in the upper right hand corner....in that search box, you can type any question, and this site will help you find answers. It is the most trusted website I know . In the link I gave below, are already a listing of other links to click on.... that will help answer some of your questions. Hope this helps. http://www.gotquestions.org/search.php?zoom_sort=0&zoom_query=do++all++religions++lead+to+God&search.x=17&search.y=21 Here are 2 more... http://www.gotquestions.org/Christianity-unique.html http://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-only-way.html

Kleisto Joined Tue 05/13/08 Posts: 5704	Mon 05/16/11 01:13 AM
Kliesto..., after you click on the link (below) ,also look for the " search box" , in the upper right hand corner....in that search box, you can type any question, and this site will help you find answers. It is the most trusted website I know . In the link I gave below, are already a listing of other links to click on.... that will help answer some of your questions. Hope this helps. http://www.gotquestions.org/search.php?zoom_sort=0&zoom_query=do++all++religions++lead+to+God&search.x=17&search.y=21 Also, here is a link that further explains why Jesus is the only way to heaven......for the whole wide world. http://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-only-way.html Thanks but really not that interested.

mylifetoday Joined Sat 01/08/11 Posts: 1943	Mon 05/16/11 01:46 AM
It is often said in the religious sect,that there is but one God, accept no substitutes, or false Gods before it. But here's something to chew on: If this is true that there is one creator of all and one only, where else is our spiritual energy going to go but this one creator? Whom else can receive and give back, if there is no one else? How can you worship multiple other Gods in this particular sense, if no other Gods really exist? My point is simply this, if there's just one God as are all told, than it would naturally follow, that all paths eventually lead back to that one simply because there is no other to whom it can go to. It wouldn't make a bit of sense otherwise. That presupposes the devil does not exist.

mylifetoday Joined Sat 01/08/11 Posts: 1943	Mon 05/16/11 01:47 AM
It is often said in the religious sect,that there is but one God, accept no substitutes, or false Gods before it. But here's something to chew on: If this is true that there is one creator of all and one only, where else is our spiritual energy going to go but this one creator? Whom else can receive and give back, if there is no one else? How can you worship multiple other Gods in this particular sense, if no other Gods really exist? My point is simply this, if there's just one God as are all told, than it would naturally follow, that all paths eventually lead back to that one simply because there is no other to whom it can go to. It wouldn't make a bit of sense otherwise. That presupposes the devil does not exist.

Kleisto Joined Tue 05/13/08 Posts: 5704	Mon 05/16/11 01:48 AM
It is often said in the religious sect,that there is but one God, accept no substitutes, or false Gods before it. But here's something to chew on: If this is true that there is one creator of all and one only, where else is our spiritual energy going to go but this one creator? Whom else can receive and give back, if there is no one else? How can you worship multiple other Gods in this particular sense, if no other Gods really exist? My point is simply this, if there's just one God as are all told, than it would naturally follow, that all paths eventually lead back to that one simply because there is no other to whom it can go to. It wouldn't make a bit of sense otherwise. That presupposes the devil does not exist. What if it didn't? I realize you probably won't be convinced, but what if the devil was a construct of the mind moreso than reality?

mylifetoday Joined Sat 01/08/11 Posts: 1943	Mon 05/16/11 02:01 AM
It is often said in the religious sect,that there is but one God, accept no substitutes, or false Gods before it. But here's something to chew on: If this is true that there is one creator of all and one only, where else is our spiritual energy going to go but this one creator? Whom else can receive and give back, if there is no one else? How can you worship multiple other Gods in this particular sense, if no other Gods really exist? My point is simply this, if there's just one God as are all told, than it would naturally follow, that all paths eventually lead back to that one simply because there is no other to whom it can go to. It wouldn't make a bit of sense otherwise. That presupposes the devil does not exist. What if it didn't? I realize you probably won't be convinced, but what if the devil was a construct of the mind moreso than reality? Won't go there. That will lead to debating hypothetical questions which will lead to hypocrisy or blaspheme for me. God Exists. The Devil Exists. End of story.

littleike Joined Fri 11/09/07 Posts: 4325	Mon 05/16/11 02:05 AM
Kliesto..., after you click on the link (below) ,also look for the " search box" , in the upper right hand corner....in that search box, you can type any question, and this site will help you find answers. It is the most trusted website I know . In the link I gave below, are already a listing of other links to click on.... that will help answer some of your questions. Hope this helps. http://www.gotquestions.org/search.php?zoom_sort=0&zoom_query=do++all++religions++lead+to+God&search.x=17&search.y=21 Also, here is a link that further explains why Jesus is the only way to heaven......for the whole wide world. http://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-only-way.html Thanks but really not that interested. why do you start a thread your not even interested in. you ask a question then someone trys to help and you reply to them your not that interested. how rude you are. and by the questions you ask and dont want the answer to makes you seem quite ignorant.

littleike Joined Fri 11/09/07 Posts: 4325	Mon 05/16/11 02:10 AM
It is often said in the religious sect,that there is but one God, accept no substitutes, or false Gods before it. But here's something to chew on: If this is true that there is one creator of all and one only, where else is our spiritual energy going to go but this one creator? Whom else can receive and give back, if there is no one else? How can you worship multiple other Gods in this particular sense, if no other Gods really exist? My point is simply this, if there's just one God as are all told, than it would naturally follow, that all paths eventually lead back to that one simply because there is no other to whom it can go to. It wouldn't make a bit of sense otherwise. there are many gods. the devil is the god of this world. but the heavenly father is the god above all gods,the mighty andm powerful god and all knowing. the one god above all gods.

greeneyeman Joined Wed 04/13/11 Posts: 350	Mon 05/16/11 02:11 AM
A god A goddess A energy or vibrations Many gods Many goddesses Perhaps gods and goddesses or nothing at all We simply don't know. I am sure you will get many different answers to contemplate and even question on.

littleike Joined Fri 11/09/07 Posts: 4325	Mon 05/16/11 02:12 AM
It is often said in the religious sect,that there is but one God, accept no substitutes, or false Gods before it. But here's something to chew on: If this is true that there is one creator of all and one only, where else is our spiritual energy going to go but this one creator? Whom else can receive and give back, if there is no one else? How can you worship multiple other Gods in this particular sense, if no other Gods really exist? My point is simply this, if there's just one God as are all told, than it would naturally follow, that all paths eventually lead back to that one simply because there is no other to whom it can go to. It wouldn't make a bit of sense otherwise. That presupposes the devil does not exist. What if it didn't? I realize you probably won't be convinced, but what if the devil was a construct of the mind moreso than reality? i dont belive it and also know god exists! you proove which you will probally not listen to but you proove it is a construct of the mind.

Kleisto Joined Tue 05/13/08 Posts: 5704	Mon 05/16/11 02:21 AM Edited by Kleisto on Mon 05/16/11 02:23 AM
Kliesto..., after you click on the link (below) ,also look for the " search box" , in the upper right hand corner....in that search box, you can type any question, and this site will help you find answers. It is the most trusted website I know . In the link I gave below, are already a listing of other links to click on.... that will help answer some of your questions. Hope this helps. http://www.gotquestions.org/search.php?zoom_sort=0&zoom_query=do++all++religions++lead+to+God&search.x=17&search.y=21 Also, here is a link that further explains why Jesus is the only way to heaven......for the whole wide world. http://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-only-way.html Thanks but really not that interested. why do you start a thread your not even interested in. you ask a question then someone trys to help and you reply to them your not that interested. how rude you are. and by the questions you ask and dont want the answer to makes you seem quite ignorant. I was making a point. I know where I stand, I was simply making a case for that which I stated. I don't believe I'm ignorant at all either, I consider myself pretty well informed.

Kleisto Joined Tue 05/13/08 Posts: 5704	Mon 05/16/11 02:22 AM
It is often said in the religious sect,that there is but one God, accept no substitutes, or false Gods before it. But here's something to chew on: If this is true that there is one creator of all and one only, where else is our spiritual energy going to go but this one creator? Whom else can receive and give back, if there is no one else? How can you worship multiple other Gods in this particular sense, if no other Gods really exist? My point is simply this, if there's just one God as are all told, than it would naturally follow, that all paths eventually lead back to that one simply because there is no other to whom it can go to. It wouldn't make a bit of sense otherwise. That presupposes the devil does not exist. What if it didn't? I realize you probably won't be convinced, but what if the devil was a construct of the mind moreso than reality? Won't go there. That will lead to debating hypothetical questions which will lead to hypocrisy or blaspheme for me. God Exists. The Devil Exists. End of story. If that's what you wish to believe so be it, I personally however believe different.

Kleisto Joined Tue 05/13/08 Posts: 5704	Mon 05/16/11 02:24 AM
A god A goddess A energy or vibrations Many gods Many goddesses Perhaps gods and goddesses or nothing at all We simply don't know. I am sure you will get many different answers to contemplate and even question on. If there's one God, it really could be all of those things in my estimation, depending on what person's perception of the creator is.

Abracadabra Joined Thu 04/12/07 Posts: 17851	Mon 05/16/11 05:03 AM
It is often said in the religious sect,that there is but one God, accept no substitutes, or false Gods before it. But here's something to chew on: If this is true that there is one creator of all and one only, where else is our spiritual energy going to go but this one creator? Whom else can receive and give back, if there is no one else? How can you worship multiple other Gods in this particular sense, if no other Gods really exist? My point is simply this, if there's just one God as are all told, than it would naturally follow, that all paths eventually lead back to that one simply because there is no other to whom it can go to. It wouldn't make a bit of sense otherwise. I agree. If there is only one God then there is nothing for that God to be jealous of, and as you say, all paths can only lead back to God since there would be nowhere else to go. People who believe in a Satan or Devil are actually claiming that there are at least two Gods. One good God and one bad God that they call a 'devil'. But then ironically they refuse to even allow for that. They demand that the Devil or Satan is actually a powerless wimp that has absolutely no power of his own, poses absolutely no threat to God, and that God can destroy the devil in an instant at his whim. The problem with that scenario is that this places all evil on the shoulders of the supposedly "good" God. The supposedly "good" God would have had to have been the creator of the evil demon, as well as the being the God that continues to give the Devil his POWER. So that very concept there does not reflect very well back on the supposedly "good" God. All that would amount to is a God who has a demonic puppet that he uses to do evil and pretend that it's not him that's doing it. There's really no way to create "evil" via the notion of a single personified Godhead without having all "evil" coming directly from that very same personified Godhead. The only valid way of genuinely addressing the concept of "evil" is either through a spiritual philosophy like some of the Eastern Mystical philosophies that have very sound explanations for what we call "evil". Or we can turn to pure atheism, in which case the concept of "evil" is also well-explained. If fact, the only time that an explanation for the concept of "evil" become problematic is in religions and philosophies that view God as a single personified Godhead. They have no choice but to also create an inferior "demonic" element such as a "fallen angel" or something to explain "evil". But as I've already pointed out that concept is grossly flawed because in the end the all-powerful God would ultimately have both, created that evil, and be supporting it by giving it POWER. So a personified Godhead cannot really work unless that personified Godhead is recognized to be the source of both "Good" and "Evil" simultaneously. That's the only way it can work. I think the Greeks recognized this. They didn't demand that Zeus was all-righteous. Zeus could kill you for no good reason if he so desired. Whatever he wants to do is automatically deemed to be "righteous" simply because he's the God of God and can do whatever he wants without having to justify it to anyone. The problem of "evil" only become problematic in the Biblical picture of God where they try to make God out as being totally innocent of all "Evil". Their God must indeed "justify" all of his actions lest he be unrighteous. And thus supporting an evil Devil and giving that demon POWER would be unrighteous. So the whole basis of the theology fails. The Greeks actually had a more sound religion because they allowed Zeus to be as evil as he felt like being, and he wouldn't need to justify it to anyone. They didn't need to create any demonic "fallen Angels" to explain evil. Evil was just inherent in all beings (including God), and the key issue was just learning how to keep it under control.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Tue 05/17/11 10:53 PM
Morningsong, placing a link to a website article is not exactly an authority. The website in question is a ministry of sorts. Its as if you are quoting someone but the article does not even name an author. (Much like some statements in the Bible that don't seem to have an author.) About the writers it says: "Our writing staff includes pastors, youth pastors, missionaries, biblical counselors, Bible/Christian College students, Seminary students, and lay students of God's Word." This page states what the ministry believes: http://www.gotquestions.org/faith.html So we understand that your answer to Kleisto's question is according to these (and your) beliefs, but I'm not sure that is what Kleisto was looking for.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Tue 05/17/11 11:00 PM Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 05/17/11 11:01 PM
It is often said in the religious sect,that there is but one God, accept no substitutes, or false Gods before it. But here's something to chew on: If this is true that there is one creator of all and one only, where else is our spiritual energy going to go but this one creator? Whom else can receive and give back, if there is no one else? How can you worship multiple other Gods in this particular sense, if no other Gods really exist? My point is simply this, if there's just one God as are all told, than it would naturally follow, that all paths eventually lead back to that one simply because there is no other to whom it can go to. It wouldn't make a bit of sense otherwise. This is true. There is either only one God or many false Gods fighting over that title. I think all that claim to be God and want followers are false Gods. The true God does not worry about competition. The true God does not have to say "I am the only way." When a religion denies the fact of reincarnation and tells people they have only one lifetime to get it right and competes with apposing Gods for souls, it is clear that they are all false Gods. Yes all paths "lead to God." But paths are illusions. God is here now. There is no path.

MorningSong Joined Mon 02/11/08 Posts: 4505	Wed 05/18/11 12:14 AM Edited by MorningSong on Wed 05/18/11 12:20 AM
Morningsong, placing a link to a website article is not exactly an authority. The website in question is a ministry of sorts. Its as if you are quoting someone but the article does not even name an author. (Much like some statements in the Bible that don't seem to have an author.) About the writers it says: "Our writing staff includes pastors, youth pastors, missionaries, biblical counselors, Bible/Christian College students, Seminary students, and lay students of God's Word." This page states what the ministry believes: http://www.gotquestions.org/faith.html So we understand that your answer to Kleisto's question is according to these (and your) beliefs, but I'm not sure that is what Kleisto was looking for. Well actually Jeannie, the main reason I shared the link (see below ) with Kliesto ,is because it provided over 250 pages of info ....and that was just to get started figured he'd at least fine something of interest there, especially since some of the links talked about all the different religions of the world. But it's all cool ....I like Kliesto...... he just wants to know the truth, and I am all for that . http://www.gotquestions.org/search.php?zoom_sort=0&zoom_query=do++all++religions++lead+to+God&search.x=17&search.y=21