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Errr...excuse me....make that over 900 thousand, and we'll talk.... At least 919,967 people have been killed in Afghanistan and Iraq since the U.S. and coalition attacks, based on lowest credible estimates. Sources and methodology are explained in the sidebar. Some questions about lower or higher casualty counts cited elsewhere are addressed in these footnotes. This page is updated about once monthly. Most recent update: Aug. 10, 2010. # Casualties in Afghanistan: Afghan troops killed [1] 8,587 Afghan troops seriously injured [2] 25,761 Afghan civilians killed [3] 8,813 Afghan civilians seriously injured [4] 15,863 U.S. troops killed [5] 1,140 U.S. troops seriously injured [6] 3,420 Other coalition troops killed [7] 772 Other coalition troops seriously injured [8] 2,316 Contractors killed [9] 298 Contractors seriously injured [10] 2,428 Journalists killed [11] 19 Journalists seriously injured [12] unknown Total killed in Afghanistan 19,629 Total injured in Afghanistan 48,644 # Casualties in Iraq: Iraqi troops killed [13] 30,000 Iraqi troops seriously injured [14] 90,000 Iraqi civilians killed [15] 864,531 Iraqi civilians seriously injured [16] 1,556,156 U.S. troops killed [17] 4,414 U.S. troops seriously injured [18] 31,882 Other coalition troops killed [19] 318 Other coalition troops seriously injured [20] 2,296 Contractors killed [21] 933 Contractors seriously injured [22] 10,569 Journalists killed [23] 142 Journalists seriously injured [24] unknown Total killed in Iraq 900,338 Total injured in Iraq 1,690,903 http://www.unknownnews.net/casualties.html I couldn't use a US military source because they don't even want to show the numbers... even if these figures were halved.... it is still the most shameful amount of numbers. war is war, life is rough all over... to bad |
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http://articles.cnn.com/2006-10-11/world/iraq.deaths_1_gilbert-burnham-death-rate-ali-dabbagh?_s=PM:WORLD
or this from your cnn....in 2006! War has wiped out about 655,000 Iraqis or more than 500 people a day since the U.S.-led invasion, a new study reports. Violence including gunfire and bombs caused the majority of deaths but thousands of people died from worsening health and environmental conditions directly related to the conflict that began in 2003, U.S. and Iraqi public health researchers said. "Since March 2003, an additional 2.5 percent of Iraq's population have died above what would have occurred without conflict," according to the survey of Iraqi households, titled "The Human Cost of the War in Iraq."The survey, being published online by British medical journal The Lancet, gives a far higher number of deaths in Iraq than other organizations.The report's release came as nearly four dozen Baghdad civilians became casualties in another day of bombs and gunfire. |
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war is war, life is rough all over... to bad What a fantstic response.....EXACTLY how the world is seeing your country right now... 
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http://articles.cnn.com/2006-10-11/world/iraq.deaths_1_gilbert-burnham-death-rate-ali-dabbagh?_s=PM:WORLD or this from your cnn....in 2006! War has wiped out about 655,000 Iraqis or more than 500 people a day since the U.S.-led invasion, a new study reports. Violence including gunfire and bombs caused the majority of deaths but thousands of people died from worsening health and environmental conditions directly related to the conflict that began in 2003, U.S. and Iraqi public health researchers said. "Since March 2003, an additional 2.5 percent of Iraq's population have died above what would have occurred without conflict," according to the survey of Iraqi households, titled "The Human Cost of the War in Iraq."The survey, being published online by British medical journal The Lancet, gives a far higher number of deaths in Iraq than other organizations.The report's release came as nearly four dozen Baghdad civilians became casualties in another day of bombs and gunfire. keep crying, i won't lose any sleep over it... too bad we lost some good AMERICANS over it though... |
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Errr...excuse me....make that over 900 thousand, and we'll talk.... At least 919,967 people have been killed in Afghanistan and Iraq since the U.S. and coalition attacks, based on lowest credible estimates. Sources and methodology are explained in the sidebar. Some questions about lower or higher casualty counts cited elsewhere are addressed in these footnotes. This page is updated about once monthly. Most recent update: Aug. 10, 2010. # Casualties in Afghanistan: Afghan troops killed [1] 8,587 Afghan troops seriously injured [2] 25,761 Afghan civilians killed [3] 8,813 Afghan civilians seriously injured [4] 15,863 U.S. troops killed [5] 1,140 U.S. troops seriously injured [6] 3,420 Other coalition troops killed [7] 772 Other coalition troops seriously injured [8] 2,316 Contractors killed [9] 298 Contractors seriously injured [10] 2,428 Journalists killed [11] 19 Journalists seriously injured [12] unknown Total killed in Afghanistan 19,629 Total injured in Afghanistan 48,644 # Casualties in Iraq: Iraqi troops killed [13] 30,000 Iraqi troops seriously injured [14] 90,000 Iraqi civilians killed [15] 864,531 Iraqi civilians seriously injured [16] 1,556,156 U.S. troops killed [17] 4,414 U.S. troops seriously injured [18] 31,882 Other coalition troops killed [19] 318 Other coalition troops seriously injured [20] 2,296 Contractors killed [21] 933 Contractors seriously injured [22] 10,569 Journalists killed [23] 142 Journalists seriously injured [24] unknown Total killed in Iraq 900,338 Total injured in Iraq 1,690,903 http://www.unknownnews.net/casualties.html I couldn't use a US military source because they don't even want to show the numbers... even if these figures were halved.... it is still the most shameful amount of numbers. Jess, I understand what you are saying but you will find that those ugly low class Americans will show no human respect, they don't have it in them. |
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Do you think the Bushes will attend the funeral? The Bin Ladens were family friends, weren't they?
ya, they will i bet. Still havin a hard time believing it. It seems so wrong. |
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Errr...excuse me....make that over 900 thousand, and we'll talk.... At least 919,967 people have been killed in Afghanistan and Iraq since the U.S. and coalition attacks, based on lowest credible estimates. Sources and methodology are explained in the sidebar. Some questions about lower or higher casualty counts cited elsewhere are addressed in these footnotes. This page is updated about once monthly. Most recent update: Aug. 10, 2010. # Casualties in Afghanistan: Afghan troops killed [1] 8,587 Afghan troops seriously injured [2] 25,761 Afghan civilians killed [3] 8,813 Afghan civilians seriously injured [4] 15,863 U.S. troops killed [5] 1,140 U.S. troops seriously injured [6] 3,420 Other coalition troops killed [7] 772 Other coalition troops seriously injured [8] 2,316 Contractors killed [9] 298 Contractors seriously injured [10] 2,428 Journalists killed [11] 19 Journalists seriously injured [12] unknown Total killed in Afghanistan 19,629 Total injured in Afghanistan 48,644 # Casualties in Iraq: Iraqi troops killed [13] 30,000 Iraqi troops seriously injured [14] 90,000 Iraqi civilians killed [15] 864,531 Iraqi civilians seriously injured [16] 1,556,156 U.S. troops killed [17] 4,414 U.S. troops seriously injured [18] 31,882 Other coalition troops killed [19] 318 Other coalition troops seriously injured [20] 2,296 Contractors killed [21] 933 Contractors seriously injured [22] 10,569 Journalists killed [23] 142 Journalists seriously injured [24] unknown Total killed in Iraq 900,338 Total injured in Iraq 1,690,903 http://www.unknownnews.net/casualties.html I couldn't use a US military source because they don't even want to show the numbers... even if these figures were halved.... it is still the most shameful amount of numbers. Jess, I understand what you are saying but you will find that those ugly low class Americans will show no human respect, they don't have it in them. name calling?? hmmm... thats how libs answer everything... yall just give each other a big hug, and sing kumbyaww, and everything will magicly happen... |
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Jess, I understand what you are saying but you will find that those ugly low class Americans will show no human respect, they don't have it in them. You know what concerns me, Dragoness?...it is exactly those people who will be the first to yell for Mumma when the sleepers of The Extremist groups are activated. I don't play with silly conspiracies...I try and use common sense... and commonsense dictates that with over 300 million people in your country and nearly 10 years for complacency to move in...especially given the financial situation of your people, and economy...it is ridiculous to assume that there are no extremists pottering around waiting to be called to arms. It terrifies me....and I don't believe it will be what the average Joe expects....I don't think it will come from previous means of terrorism...I don't think it will be transportation.. 
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I'd rather be called a liberal than what the ugly Americans should be called for their actions that are shaming all of this country around the world. Again NO MATTER WHO THE PERSON WAS, THEY WERE SOMEONES DAD, BROTHER, SON, COUSIN, GRANDPA, ETC... giving respect to those family members who just lost a loved one should be paramount human respect. all i can say to that is PHTTTTTTTTT....it's the liberals that are pussifing america... this guy had 3000 people killed, and your praying to him?? Who prays? I don't. If that is all you can say you don't have much to contribute then do you? If pussification means that we have class and decorum with human respect for others then I guess pussification is what we need more of. It is actually just human respect. After all, NO MATTER WHO HE WAS HE WAS SOMEONES FATHER, HUSBAND, SON, GRANDAD, BROTHER, COUSIN, ETC... the living is who we show respect for, not the dead. no, i won't.. you show some respect for the 10-20 thousand others who lost someone on 9-11... practice what you preach...do you really think their families are sad because he's dead? your crying over one muslim, and thousands of people lost their loved ones on 9-11???? Do I really have to explain this to a grown person who supposedly can read? I guess. Did I say that there was no human respect for the loved ones of the lives lost on 9/11? No. Do I have to say that there is not a quota on human respect so it can apply to any family member who lost a loved one no matter where they are? I guess. To make ourselves, well those American who have no class, appear so stupid to rest of the world is an embarrassment to this country. Hell in sports I think they call it being a good sport or something like that. |
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"Jess, I understand what you are saying but you will find that those ugly low class Americans will show no human respect, they don't have it in them."
Wrong again as usual, we're not low class, we just don't kiss butt of dictators like lefties do. If in fact, if Bin Laden is dead this animal deserves no respect. Only a leftist would call him a human being. He was an animal and there are many others who need to meet this same fate. |
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You know what concerns me, Dragoness?...it is exactly those people who will be the first to yell for Mumma when the sleepers of The Extremist groups are activated.
no, i will say i told you so... i have been saying that for years... |
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Jess, I understand what you are saying but you will find that those ugly low class Americans will show no human respect, they don't have it in them. You know what concerns me, Dragoness?...it is exactly those people who will be the first to yell for Mumma when the sleepers of The Extremist groups are activated. I don't play with silly conspiracies...I try and use common sense... and commonsense dictates that with over 300 million people in your country and nearly 10 years for complacency to move in...especially given the financial situation of your people, and economy...it is ridiculous to assume that there are no extremists pottering around waiting to be called to arms. It terrifies me....and I don't believe it will be what the average Joe expects....I don't think it will come from previous means of terrorism...I don't think it will be transportation..
And sadly when, not if, this happens those who do not participate in this ugly demonstration of human disrespect will be killed also in the attacks that are really meant for those who show the world such ugliness. |
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I'm out....unfortunately this is just compounding the sour taste in many Australians mouths....
Dragoness...you and yours are welcome here, in my house...if you need it.. 
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Do you think the Bushes will attend the funeral? The Bin Ladens were family friends, weren't they?
ya, they will i bet. Still havin a hard time believing it. It seems so wrong. do a search on bin ladens father... he owns one of the biggest and most respected constrution companies in the middle east... his father disowned him when he tried to blow up the world trade center the first time, in the 90's... |
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Jess, I can relate to your sentiment about rejoicing over death although, for different intentions, i also believe there are reasons for death to be rejoiced,,,, I think the 'relief' factor comes in the knowing that he is no longer out there,,,much like if a serial killer were caught in this case, the confrontation lead to deaths, instead of capture which could have lead to a more civil brand of 'justice' people are overzealous over the 'death' part, but I think underneath many of us are feeling more 'relief' than joy Thankyou Ms Harmony....that was very kind... What concerns me deeply is of course, the reaction across the internet, the media, and I am sure in the US of everyday people...but moreso the apparent lack of understanding as to what has been done. In an extremist view...your country killed a saint...of course not to us...but to his followers...and by 'cutting off the head'...in this instance will not remove extremist violence...I can feel, as we digest this latest news across the world...there are 50 more heads being grown on that extremist body. That is what alarms me...how many have already died for the almost ten year search for one man?...a figurehead is all he was... and I mentioned in my first post...these people have entrenched in their inherited instincts to continue the fight....these people fight for centuries...not years...they fight through generations. I am literally terrified for what awaits the common man, the children of the US. DITTO - and word from many economists is that were are sittin on the bubble (the hollow bubble). Food scarcity - something I'm sure you've all heard about in the media right? Certainly wallstreet is hedging their bets and many economists are reporting that food will likely be driving political forces. What do you think that means? Think about it - where does your food come from? Oh yea, all that safe sea food from the gulf - oh, and before you buy be sure to find out were your food came from because the weapons of war have nuclear elements and if there is any doubt as to what they do - look at the significant rise in cancers and birth defects in war zones. And all the damage that this (non-existent)global climate change is creating by dumping a foot or more of hale onto tender crops, and floods damaging others, and later this summer the droughts. All the countries who have suffered recent natural catastrophy will not be planting or harvesting as usual. The Early crops in the '2%' of agriculture that still exists in the U.S. may have gotten in late or have flooded out and its costly to replant, so the government or its federally backed farm insurance will have to pay - but where does all this money keep coming from? How may people in the world are engaged in war or enslaved by it - poeple whose time and effort would be more wisely spent on agriculture to feed this ailing world? But continue to celebrate the death of this man and tomorrow make an economic assessment of your own finances - how much food, how much fuel, how much in taxes are you willing to give to support a war effort that you can't even explain? |
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I'm out....unfortunately this is just compounding the sour taste in many Australians mouths.... Dragoness...you and yours are welcome here, in my house...if you need it..
don't forget to hold hands and sing |
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I'm out....unfortunately this is just compounding the sour taste in many Australians mouths.... Dragoness...you and yours are welcome here, in my house...if you need it..
Jess, thank you so much, I will say the same to you and yours but I already know....  
I remember when 9/11 happened here and there were celebrations in other places in the world and people here were so hurt by the fact we were so hated. I would hope those are not the ones doing the same thing to others. |
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"Jess, I understand what you are saying but you will find that those ugly low class Americans will show no human respect, they don't have it in them." Wrong again as usual, we're not low class, we just don't kiss butt of dictators like lefties do. If in fact, if Bin Laden is dead this animal deserves no respect. Only a leftist would call him a human being. He was an animal and there are many others who need to meet this same fate. Oh stop it - face it we are a nation of apathetic, uneducated and egotistical fools. You know, they say that every generation misunderstands the youngest generation, and feels they have been for too spoiled. If you buy into that crap then you will likely think the same thing, but I want to tell you that if America has a saving grace it will come from the millenials - we need to be listening to them, nurturing them - not sending them to war. We cannot possibly feed the poeple in our own country so here's a thought. Bring home the military, and pay the remainder of there terms of service while they learn to farm. They'll stay in shape, they can share border watches, they will be HERE in country, producing something beneficial for all the money and resources we pour into them AND they will still be our military AND none of them will loose their job. |
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Jess, I can relate to your sentiment about rejoicing over death although, for different intentions, i also believe there are reasons for death to be rejoiced,,,, I think the 'relief' factor comes in the knowing that he is no longer out there,,,much like if a serial killer were caught in this case, the confrontation lead to deaths, instead of capture which could have lead to a more civil brand of 'justice' people are overzealous over the 'death' part, but I think underneath many of us are feeling more 'relief' than joy Thankyou Ms Harmony....that was very kind... What concerns me deeply is of course, the reaction across the internet, the media, and I am sure in the US of everyday people...but moreso the apparent lack of understanding as to what has been done. In an extremist view...your country killed a saint...of course not to us...but to his followers...and by 'cutting off the head'...in this instance will not remove extremist violence...I can feel, as we digest this latest news across the world...there are 50 more heads being grown on that extremist body. That is what alarms me...how many have already died for the almost ten year search for one man?...a figurehead is all he was... and I mentioned in my first post...these people have entrenched in their inherited instincts to continue the fight....these people fight for centuries...not years...they fight through generations. I am literally terrified for what awaits the common man, the children of the US. DITTO - and word from many economists is that were are sittin on the bubble (the hollow bubble). Food scarcity - something I'm sure you've all heard about in the media right? Certainly wallstreet is hedging their bets and many economists are reporting that food will likely be driving political forces. What do you think that means? Think about it - where does your food come from? Oh yea, all that safe sea food from the gulf - oh, and before you buy be sure to find out were your food came from because the weapons of war have nuclear elements and if there is any doubt as to what they do - look at the significant rise in cancers and birth defects in war zones. And all the damage that this (non-existent)global climate change is creating by dumping a foot or more of hale onto tender crops, and floods damaging others, and later this summer the droughts. All the countries who have suffered recent natural catastrophy will not be planting or harvesting as usual. The Early crops in the '2%' of agriculture that still exists in the U.S. may have gotten in late or have flooded out and its costly to replant, so the government or its federally backed farm insurance will have to pay - but where does all this money keep coming from? How may people in the world are engaged in war or enslaved by it - poeple whose time and effort would be more wisely spent on agriculture to feed this ailing world? But continue to celebrate the death of this man and tomorrow make an economic assessment of your own finances - how much food, how much fuel, how much in taxes are you willing to give to support a war effort that you can't even explain? since when does war need an explanation? the last time a war was explained was ww2.... and that was self evident... since then, they have all been senseless... |
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I don't know what is right and what is wrong, there always seems to be so many hidden political agenda's that I have no idea what is truth.
Things can't be changed, reguardless fo who likes or dislikes anything. Yep everyone feels relief when a danger is removed, just sometimes you can jump out of the way of one snake to find out that you jumped into a heap of others. I only see what the media portrays, and really, they mix things up so much that I wouldnt know who is right or wrong. I guess both sides will always have a reason for doing what they do.. Sadly for everyone, While America chose to go after the figureheads, the others really wont care they will just target everyone, and the more people who are there the better, yep so many people on both sides have been hurt. and both country's are hurting, and both country's at times will rejoice in what they see as right. But sadly in the long run we all lose.. |
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