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Topic: Making judgments vs. judging people
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Thu 08/04/11 04:33 PM
I'm not perfect? mmmmmm....


jrbogie's photo
Thu 08/04/11 04:41 PM
mother t, nice lady that she was, was full of crap about many things.

nObOdys_wiFe_JM's photo
Thu 08/04/11 04:46 PM
Edited by nObOdys_wiFe_JM on Thu 08/04/11 04:47 PM

mother t, nice lady that she was, was full of crap about many things.


full of crap? how and why did you say so? base on what she's "full of crap with"?

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Thu 08/04/11 04:56 PM

mother t, nice lady that she was, was full of crap about many things.


If you want to pass unfounded judgement, here is a thread to do that:

http://mingle2.com/topic/show/308022

RKISIT's photo
Thu 08/04/11 05:26 PM
Was Mother T,the mother of Ice-T and Mr.T?

jrbogie's photo
Thu 08/04/11 05:43 PM
nah, jeannie, i choose to pass judgement, unfounded or otherwise, right here.

Dragoness's photo
Thu 08/04/11 06:38 PM






Judge them? Why would some people do that anyway? What benefits will they get in doing it? Why don't we just love them instead,,,??


Very good question, why can't we just love them? Why can't we just love everyone? Why is everyone out to cut the other's throat so to speak? Why is everyone out to gain everything they can even if that harms another? Why do people put themselves above others?


Because one persons love is another persons poison.

Love can be used to destroy.


If the love is used to destroy, it isn't real. That person would be lying and not truly love the other. Love only wishes happiness and good well being of the other. Love can be used to destroy yes, but only when the one doing the destroying doesn't love the other. If they both loved each other, there would be no destruction. Just great joy and kindness.


You missed the point. What one person considers "love" is poison to another person. There is no ill intent involved.

Love is subjective. So each person's form of love is different.

For example: Your form of love is not good for me. Not that you are bad but you do not have the love that would be healthy for me. I know this. You should too.


How is love subjective? Love is where one person gives their life for another, not so totally ment in a literal form here as in dying for the other. But lives to make better the other person's life. This may include bringing them great happiness from whatever makes them happy, making sure they are taken care of or at least doing all they can to ensure it. And love outside of "relationships", making sure the people around you are taken care of financially, are healthy, have the food they need, and again bringing joy and happiness to their life.

Please elaborate on how you see love as being subjective.

Seeing a homeless person and giving them some food is love. No strings attached, no reward for their work in helping the homeless person. Just out of love helped them out.

Or any number of possibilities love can be shared with one another. Again, please enlighten us with how love can be subjective.


What you see as betterment for my life may not be betterment for me. It is not for you to make that judgement call on this level even if we are in a relationship. "caring" for those around you, your form of caring may not be the care that person needs.

Love is subjective because people see, act, display, show, share, give, receive, spread, etc... love in different ways.

It is almost impossible for you to see that what you give in "love" could be poison for another person but believe it it is very possible for your love to be damaging to another.

Love is not always a good thing.

When love is perceived, received, shared and given in the same way for each participant, it is then the epitome of glorious human emotion.

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Thu 08/04/11 06:57 PM



We all make a 'judgment' all the time. Every time we see someone, something....

' i sure like her hair'

' i wouldn't wear pants like that'

' he could stand to lose a few pounds'

' she's so sweet to everyone'

' damn it, it's snowing'

on and on and on and on

There is making an observation and there is
making an observation and being a jerk about it.




Observations are judgements? I don't know if I see it that way.


if i'm observing her hair and form an opinion
on whether i like it or not, i'm judging.
if i came to the conclusion that she is so
sweet to everyone, then i'm judging her.

When i'm simply observing, i won't have an opinion either way

but that's a big one for me in my meditation practice



flowerforyou

Opinions=judgments, I'll buy that.

Opinions=beliefs also

Beliefs of others based on all the data we have in our brains is often times wrong because we cannot know enough of the other to make a correct judgement call. IE prejudice and bigotry


msharmony's photo
Fri 08/05/11 02:22 AM
making a judgment = 'that wasnt a smart thing to do'


judging a person = 'she isnt smart'

sometimes smart people can make choices which arent smart and sometimes dumb folks can get a couple choices right


judging actions or words, isolates an occasion instead of isolating the individual,,,

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Fri 08/05/11 08:39 AM




We all make a 'judgment' all the time. Every time we see someone, something....

' i sure like her hair'

' i wouldn't wear pants like that'

' he could stand to lose a few pounds'

' she's so sweet to everyone'

' damn it, it's snowing'

on and on and on and on

There is making an observation and there is
making an observation and being a jerk about it.




Observations are judgements? I don't know if I see it that way.


if i'm observing her hair and form an opinion
on whether i like it or not, i'm judging.
if i came to the conclusion that she is so
sweet to everyone, then i'm judging her.

When i'm simply observing, i won't have an opinion either way

but that's a big one for me in my meditation practice



flowerforyou

Opinions=judgments, I'll buy that.

Opinions=beliefs also

Beliefs of others based on all the data we have in our brains is often times wrong because we cannot know enough of the other to make a correct judgement call. IE prejudice and bigotry





I'm constantly working on NOT forming an opinion every time I see, hear something. It's challenging!!

I agree, the data in our brain is what we base our reactions on.
We react to a situation based on PAST experiences instead of what is happening in the moment.

We tend to operate on a very subconscious level.

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