because it contradicts the message of love and acceptance - how can we love our brother if we judge him? and how can we be fit to judge with the splinter of wood in our own eye - only God in his wisdom judges

Jesus was teaching us to love. and to learn that we are as a collective soul - as soon as you judge me for being...say Catholic...instead of Protestant, someone will judge you for being Christian instead of Jewish and so on into repeated silliness

or if you judge me because I spend too much money (example) then the plank of wood falls from your eye and you see I have spent it on the poor, or the sick, or my children in need

all of that is different than to make a judgement that my fav color is purple cuz i wear it a lot (which I do BTW)

seriously.. yes i do certainly judge! if i see a attractive person.. sometimes not always will i think oh hes cute or she is pretty or if there is a unusual look to someone.. yes the thought crosses my mind wow strange looking. or they look like they are on drugs.. these are things i will either think or say to my friends sometimes not always.. though.. i do never judge a person within.. with out knowing them.. and sometimes i do see actions of others i do not know.. though till i know them within unless they do something to someone i do know or me,, do i judge them.. rather it be a good thing or a bad thing. i dont deeply judge one.. till then and no im not gay... but i do compliment women.. im surprised actually i have such different views on beauty on the outside than men do about women..

We are told not to judge "condemn" people cause we are all sinners. We all have done some errors in our lives. By me saying you are a lesser of a person cause you did this or that would be saying I was greater then you. But no one is greater then the other. We are all the same. We all sin. We all fail God. In our own different ways of course, but nevertheless we are not to condemn another "treat another badly for a mistake the made previously" because we ourselves do, have done, or will do something along the same lines some odd days down the road. So what would give us the right to judge "condemn" another for doing something that may or may not have even been as bad as something you've done are doing or will do?

well said, the verse says nothing about not NOTICING a thorn, it speaks about our REACTION to the thorn

I think we are too help where we can help and we are to judge, but we are not to try to help in areas where we have not yet helped ourself

for instance, its not for an escort to tell an unwed mother about how to respect her body, a nun would have every authority to perhaps give that advice though,,,

Judge them? Why would some people do that anyway? What benefits will they get in doing it? Why don't we just love them instead,,,??

The way you stated it here it is.

Making a judgement call on if this is a person that you want to spend time with is a personal judgement for yourself.

Stating that the person is dangerous from their dress, sinful because of their actions, etc.... is judging the person and usually misjudging them from sight or knowing little of them. Prejudging, prejudice.

Very good question, why can't we just love them? Why can't we just love everyone? Why is everyone out to cut the other's throat so to speak? Why is everyone out to gain everything they can even if that harms another? Why do people put themselves above others?

Because one persons love is another persons poison.

Love can be used to destroy.

If the love is used to destroy, it isn't real. That person would be lying and not truly love the other. Love only wishes happiness and good well being of the other. Love can be used to destroy yes, but only when the one doing the destroying doesn't love the other. If they both loved each other, there would be no destruction. Just great joy and kindness.

We all make a 'judgment' all the time. Every time we see someone, something....

' i sure like her hair'

' i wouldn't wear pants like that'

' he could stand to lose a few pounds'

' she's so sweet to everyone'

' damn it, it's snowing'

on and on and on and on

There is making an observation and there is
making an observation and being a jerk about it.

You missed the point. What one person considers "love" is poison to another person. There is no ill intent involved.

Love is subjective. So each person's form of love is different.

For example: Your form of love is not good for me. Not that you are bad but you do not have the love that would be healthy for me. I know this. You should too.

Observations are judgements? I don't know if I see it that way.

if i'm observing her hair and form an opinion
on whether i like it or not, i'm judging.
if i came to the conclusion that she is so
sweet to everyone, then i'm judging her.

When i'm simply observing, i won't have an opinion either way

but that's a big one for me in my meditation practice

How is love subjective? Love is where one person gives their life for another, not so totally ment in a literal form here as in dying for the other. But lives to make better the other person's life. This may include bringing them great happiness from whatever makes them happy, making sure they are taken care of or at least doing all they can to ensure it. And love outside of "relationships", making sure the people around you are taken care of financially, are healthy, have the food they need, and again bringing joy and happiness to their life.

Please elaborate on how you see love as being subjective.

Seeing a homeless person and giving them some food is love. No strings attached, no reward for their work in helping the homeless person. Just out of love helped them out.

Or any number of possibilities love can be shared with one another. Again, please enlighten us with how love can be subjective.

@ cowboy

because all of our experiences with 'love' are different
our beliefs and emotions about 'love' are different

love itself may not necessarily be 'subjective'
the way we individually process it, is indeed!

Observations are making a judgement "call". But that is not what this verse(s) is referring to. Cause it elaborates on it to get a better understanding. Goes into "condemn" not and you will not be condemned. That is the judgement it's talking about. It's ok to make a judgement "call" and observation. We do it naturally, even without truly thinking about the situation. It's when you start to condemn the other and treat them differently because of this "observation" when it becomes a problem.

Luke 6:37

37Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

Telling us to forgive others of their trespasses and not hold it against them treating them in a bad form of way compared to how we treat others. Telling us we all make mistakes, do things that may or may not cause some form of pain to another. We are not better then them because of what they have done for we have done the same and or at least similar to what they have done.

Teaching us to just forgive them for their mistakes and or the actions they have done.

yep. making judgements is judging. like these easy ones.

i've never been told that. if i had, i'd pay no attention. go my own way you see.

Like mother Theresa said, "IF YOU JUDGE PEOPLE, YOU HAVE NO TIME TO LOVE THEM"
Nobody could judge no one for there is only ONE who can judge us, that is OUR FATHER in HEAVEN. We're not perfect so we have no right to judge/to criticize other people.

mother t, nice lady that she was, was full of crap about many things.