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Why is it okay to take money from others by force? I mean healthcare a right? I won't get nothing but a bill, my healthcare won't change except maybe get worse! Why is it people don't understand working people pay the bills of government and there is no free lunch for us! What happens when we have had enough and refuse to pay your bills anymore! I don't get the thought of freeloading! Do Americans even have pride anymore or are they just all waiting in line with their hand out? Look if you want government healthcare why not just send your money to the government and let them care for you, and allow me to opt out? I tell you why cause you want me to pay for you! That's what this is really about! You want free healthcare for you and double priced heathcare for me right? yeah that's the truth and nobody wants to admit it! Unless you actually beleive the government will make it cheaper! But I can't beleive anyone buys that lie! So which is it? Do you beleive government will make it cheaper or do you want other citizens to pay your share? Nice rant. Not accurate at all. For one only those who make quite a bit of money will be "forced" to pay the equivalent of a health care premium for a year as a tax on their income taxes. Second, poor people don't pay taxes. If you get a refund you don't pay taxes. So that is half of the country that don't pay a red damn dime but I bet they are biitchin about the taxes they don't pay. Third people who ask for help or need help are not lazy no goods, that is really a prejudiced way of thinking that isn't true. So basically in my opinion this rant is really irrelevant to any valid concerns in this country. Lets move on to something constructive and helpful to this country. Are you kidding me? This bill is basically slavery! When you are forced to pay for something whether you want it or need it, you are not free! Hell, under this healthcare reform, the government will eventually have access to your bank account and your money! Don't believe me, read the thing yourself, I'm not lying. Further, if it's not bad enough that people are gonna be forced into paying, the only care they will get is what the government chooses for them, again illustrating a lack of freedom, and an agenda. This thing stinks to high heaven on many levels if one is actually paying attention. It is far from what you think it is. There's a reason so many are opposed to this. I have read it and this isn't true. Paying taxes is our obligation to this country to maintain it for the people to have a better life here. Some feel that is bad but it is part of our responsibility in this country. And half of of the population doesn't even pay these taxes. So not really a valid complaint in reality huh? |
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Why is it okay to take money from others by force? I mean healthcare a right? I won't get nothing but a bill, my healthcare won't change except maybe get worse! Why is it people don't understand working people pay the bills of government and there is no free lunch for us! What happens when we have had enough and refuse to pay your bills anymore! I don't get the thought of freeloading! Do Americans even have pride anymore or are they just all waiting in line with their hand out? Look if you want government healthcare why not just send your money to the government and let them care for you, and allow me to opt out? I tell you why cause you want me to pay for you! That's what this is really about! You want free healthcare for you and double priced heathcare for me right? yeah that's the truth and nobody wants to admit it! Unless you actually beleive the government will make it cheaper! But I can't beleive anyone buys that lie! So which is it? Do you beleive government will make it cheaper or do you want other citizens to pay your share? 
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Why is it okay to take money from others by force? I mean healthcare a right? I won't get nothing but a bill, my healthcare won't change except maybe get worse! Why is it people don't understand working people pay the bills of government and there is no free lunch for us! What happens when we have had enough and refuse to pay your bills anymore! I don't get the thought of freeloading! Do Americans even have pride anymore or are they just all waiting in line with their hand out? Look if you want government healthcare why not just send your money to the government and let them care for you, and allow me to opt out? I tell you why cause you want me to pay for you! That's what this is really about! You want free healthcare for you and double priced heathcare for me right? yeah that's the truth and nobody wants to admit it! Unless you actually beleive the government will make it cheaper! But I can't beleive anyone buys that lie! So which is it? Do you beleive government will make it cheaper or do you want other citizens to pay your share? Nice rant. Not accurate at all. For one only those who make quite a bit of money will be "forced" to pay the equivalent of a health care premium for a year as a tax on their income taxes. Second, poor people don't pay taxes. If you get a refund you don't pay taxes. So that is half of the country that don't pay a red damn dime but I bet they are biitchin about the taxes they don't pay. Third people who ask for help or need help are not lazy no goods, that is really a prejudiced way of thinking that isn't true. So basically in my opinion this rant is really irrelevant to any valid concerns in this country. Lets move on to something constructive and helpful to this country. Are you kidding me? This bill is basically slavery! When you are forced to pay for something whether you want it or need it, you are not free! Hell, under this healthcare reform, the government will eventually have access to your bank account and your money! Don't believe me, read the thing yourself, I'm not lying. Further, if it's not bad enough that people are gonna be forced into paying, the only care they will get is what the government chooses for them, again illustrating a lack of freedom, and an agenda. This thing stinks to high heaven on many levels if one is actually paying attention. It is far from what you think it is. There's a reason so many are opposed to this. I have read it and this isn't true. Paying taxes is our obligation to this country to maintain it for the people to have a better life here. Some feel that is bad but it is part of our responsibility in this country. And half of of the population doesn't even pay these taxes. So not really a valid complaint in reality huh? Sorry but you're wrong, paying taxes has been made our obligation to keep THEM living a better life while we suffer all the more. Do you not see the growing divide between the rich and the poor? Why do you think this is? It's not that hard to figure out. |
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Why is it okay to take money from others by force? I mean healthcare a right? I won't get nothing but a bill, my healthcare won't change except maybe get worse! Why is it people don't understand working people pay the bills of government and there is no free lunch for us! What happens when we have had enough and refuse to pay your bills anymore! I don't get the thought of freeloading! Do Americans even have pride anymore or are they just all waiting in line with their hand out? Look if you want government healthcare why not just send your money to the government and let them care for you, and allow me to opt out? I tell you why cause you want me to pay for you! That's what this is really about! You want free healthcare for you and double priced heathcare for me right? yeah that's the truth and nobody wants to admit it! Unless you actually beleive the government will make it cheaper! But I can't beleive anyone buys that lie! So which is it? Do you beleive government will make it cheaper or do you want other citizens to pay your share? Nice rant. Not accurate at all. For one only those who make quite a bit of money will be "forced" to pay the equivalent of a health care premium for a year as a tax on their income taxes. Second, poor people don't pay taxes. If you get a refund you don't pay taxes. So that is half of the country that don't pay a red damn dime but I bet they are biitchin about the taxes they don't pay. Third people who ask for help or need help are not lazy no goods, that is really a prejudiced way of thinking that isn't true. So basically in my opinion this rant is really irrelevant to any valid concerns in this country. Lets move on to something constructive and helpful to this country. Are you kidding me? This bill is basically slavery! When you are forced to pay for something whether you want it or need it, you are not free! Hell, under this healthcare reform, the government will eventually have access to your bank account and your money! Don't believe me, read the thing yourself, I'm not lying. Further, if it's not bad enough that people are gonna be forced into paying, the only care they will get is what the government chooses for them, again illustrating a lack of freedom, and an agenda. This thing stinks to high heaven on many levels if one is actually paying attention. It is far from what you think it is. There's a reason so many are opposed to this. I have read it and this isn't true. Paying taxes is our obligation to this country to maintain it for the people to have a better life here. Some feel that is bad but it is part of our responsibility in this country. And half of of the population doesn't even pay these taxes. So not really a valid complaint in reality huh? Sorry but you're wrong, paying taxes has been made our obligation to keep THEM living a better life while we suffer all the more. Do you not see the growing divide between the rich and the poor? Why do you think this is? It's not that hard to figure out. The poor don't pay taxes and won't be paying for healthcare, it is free for them. So what is your point here? |
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Edited by
Kleisto
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Why is it okay to take money from others by force? I mean healthcare a right? I won't get nothing but a bill, my healthcare won't change except maybe get worse! Why is it people don't understand working people pay the bills of government and there is no free lunch for us! What happens when we have had enough and refuse to pay your bills anymore! I don't get the thought of freeloading! Do Americans even have pride anymore or are they just all waiting in line with their hand out? Look if you want government healthcare why not just send your money to the government and let them care for you, and allow me to opt out? I tell you why cause you want me to pay for you! That's what this is really about! You want free healthcare for you and double priced heathcare for me right? yeah that's the truth and nobody wants to admit it! Unless you actually beleive the government will make it cheaper! But I can't beleive anyone buys that lie! So which is it? Do you beleive government will make it cheaper or do you want other citizens to pay your share? Nice rant. Not accurate at all. For one only those who make quite a bit of money will be "forced" to pay the equivalent of a health care premium for a year as a tax on their income taxes. Second, poor people don't pay taxes. If you get a refund you don't pay taxes. So that is half of the country that don't pay a red damn dime but I bet they are biitchin about the taxes they don't pay. Third people who ask for help or need help are not lazy no goods, that is really a prejudiced way of thinking that isn't true. So basically in my opinion this rant is really irrelevant to any valid concerns in this country. Lets move on to something constructive and helpful to this country. Are you kidding me? This bill is basically slavery! When you are forced to pay for something whether you want it or need it, you are not free! Hell, under this healthcare reform, the government will eventually have access to your bank account and your money! Don't believe me, read the thing yourself, I'm not lying. Further, if it's not bad enough that people are gonna be forced into paying, the only care they will get is what the government chooses for them, again illustrating a lack of freedom, and an agenda. This thing stinks to high heaven on many levels if one is actually paying attention. It is far from what you think it is. There's a reason so many are opposed to this. I have read it and this isn't true. Paying taxes is our obligation to this country to maintain it for the people to have a better life here. Some feel that is bad but it is part of our responsibility in this country. And half of of the population doesn't even pay these taxes. So not really a valid complaint in reality huh? Sorry but you're wrong, paying taxes has been made our obligation to keep THEM living a better life while we suffer all the more. Do you not see the growing divide between the rich and the poor? Why do you think this is? It's not that hard to figure out. The poor don't pay taxes and won't be paying for healthcare, it is free for them. So what is your point here? My point is, there is a reason why so many are so poor and struggling, and the system has a lot to do with that. It was designed as such, they gain more and more while we have less and less. It's all about keeping that balance of power, been that way for a long time. They don't give a crap about us, money and power is pretty much the name of the game. |
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Why is it okay to take money from others by force? I mean healthcare a right? I won't get nothing but a bill, my healthcare won't change except maybe get worse! Why is it people don't understand working people pay the bills of government and there is no free lunch for us! What happens when we have had enough and refuse to pay your bills anymore! I don't get the thought of freeloading! Do Americans even have pride anymore or are they just all waiting in line with their hand out? Look if you want government healthcare why not just send your money to the government and let them care for you, and allow me to opt out? I tell you why cause you want me to pay for you! That's what this is really about! You want free healthcare for you and double priced heathcare for me right? yeah that's the truth and nobody wants to admit it! Unless you actually beleive the government will make it cheaper! But I can't beleive anyone buys that lie! So which is it? Do you beleive government will make it cheaper or do you want other citizens to pay your share? Nice rant. Not accurate at all. For one only those who make quite a bit of money will be "forced" to pay the equivalent of a health care premium for a year as a tax on their income taxes. Second, poor people don't pay taxes. If you get a refund you don't pay taxes. So that is half of the country that don't pay a red damn dime but I bet they are biitchin about the taxes they don't pay. Third people who ask for help or need help are not lazy no goods, that is really a prejudiced way of thinking that isn't true. So basically in my opinion this rant is really irrelevant to any valid concerns in this country. Lets move on to something constructive and helpful to this country. Are you kidding me? This bill is basically slavery! When you are forced to pay for something whether you want it or need it, you are not free! Hell, under this healthcare reform, the government will eventually have access to your bank account and your money! Don't believe me, read the thing yourself, I'm not lying. Further, if it's not bad enough that people are gonna be forced into paying, the only care they will get is what the government chooses for them, again illustrating a lack of freedom, and an agenda. This thing stinks to high heaven on many levels if one is actually paying attention. It is far from what you think it is. There's a reason so many are opposed to this. I have read it and this isn't true. Paying taxes is our obligation to this country to maintain it for the people to have a better life here. Some feel that is bad but it is part of our responsibility in this country. And half of of the population doesn't even pay these taxes. So not really a valid complaint in reality huh? Sorry but you're wrong, paying taxes has been made our obligation to keep THEM living a better life while we suffer all the more. Do you not see the growing divide between the rich and the poor? Why do you think this is? It's not that hard to figure out. The poor don't pay taxes and won't be paying for healthcare, it is free for them. So what is your point here? My point is, there is a reason why so many are so poor and struggling, and the system has a lot to do with that. It was designed as such, they gain more and more while we have less and less. It's all about keeping that balance of power, been that way for a long time. They don't give a crap about us, money and power is pretty much the name of the game. Who is we? The rich who have less and less or the poor? Since it is a two fold problem you are claiming. The poor do not pay taxes because they get a refund from the government at tax time and the rich who pay taxes but not as much as they should since they know how to get around them. So the poor won't pay for healthcare. Those who get rebate from the government won't pay for healthcare which is half of the country, |
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This Socialized Medicine bill WILL eventually be repealed, period.
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Edited by
Kleisto
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Why is it okay to take money from others by force? I mean healthcare a right? I won't get nothing but a bill, my healthcare won't change except maybe get worse! Why is it people don't understand working people pay the bills of government and there is no free lunch for us! What happens when we have had enough and refuse to pay your bills anymore! I don't get the thought of freeloading! Do Americans even have pride anymore or are they just all waiting in line with their hand out? Look if you want government healthcare why not just send your money to the government and let them care for you, and allow me to opt out? I tell you why cause you want me to pay for you! That's what this is really about! You want free healthcare for you and double priced heathcare for me right? yeah that's the truth and nobody wants to admit it! Unless you actually beleive the government will make it cheaper! But I can't beleive anyone buys that lie! So which is it? Do you beleive government will make it cheaper or do you want other citizens to pay your share? Nice rant. Not accurate at all. For one only those who make quite a bit of money will be "forced" to pay the equivalent of a health care premium for a year as a tax on their income taxes. Second, poor people don't pay taxes. If you get a refund you don't pay taxes. So that is half of the country that don't pay a red damn dime but I bet they are biitchin about the taxes they don't pay. Third people who ask for help or need help are not lazy no goods, that is really a prejudiced way of thinking that isn't true. So basically in my opinion this rant is really irrelevant to any valid concerns in this country. Lets move on to something constructive and helpful to this country. Are you kidding me? This bill is basically slavery! When you are forced to pay for something whether you want it or need it, you are not free! Hell, under this healthcare reform, the government will eventually have access to your bank account and your money! Don't believe me, read the thing yourself, I'm not lying. Further, if it's not bad enough that people are gonna be forced into paying, the only care they will get is what the government chooses for them, again illustrating a lack of freedom, and an agenda. This thing stinks to high heaven on many levels if one is actually paying attention. It is far from what you think it is. There's a reason so many are opposed to this. I have read it and this isn't true. Paying taxes is our obligation to this country to maintain it for the people to have a better life here. Some feel that is bad but it is part of our responsibility in this country. And half of of the population doesn't even pay these taxes. So not really a valid complaint in reality huh? Sorry but you're wrong, paying taxes has been made our obligation to keep THEM living a better life while we suffer all the more. Do you not see the growing divide between the rich and the poor? Why do you think this is? It's not that hard to figure out. The poor don't pay taxes and won't be paying for healthcare, it is free for them. So what is your point here? My point is, there is a reason why so many are so poor and struggling, and the system has a lot to do with that. It was designed as such, they gain more and more while we have less and less. It's all about keeping that balance of power, been that way for a long time. They don't give a crap about us, money and power is pretty much the name of the game. Who is we? The rich who have less and less or the poor? Since it is a two fold problem you are claiming. The poor do not pay taxes because they get a refund from the government at tax time and the rich who pay taxes but not as much as they should since they know how to get around them. So the poor won't pay for healthcare. Those who get rebate from the government won't pay for healthcare which is half of the country, We meaning the general populace, the middle class and poor, them meaning the rich, the elite, those in power basically. My whole point is, and I'm not even talking just about healthcare with this though it's surely part of it, pretty much everything they do, all the laws they pass and such, seek to benefit them and not us. There's a reason we have all the problems that we have, and the system they have set up has got a lot to do with it. We think we are free, but we're really not. |
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Edited by
Dragoness
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Which socialized medicine?
Medicare? Medicaid? Cicp? The Indigent program? Which one is the problem? |
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Obama Bin Laden Care.
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Doing my best to keep your healthcare costs down.
Only a 2 percent raise for RN's this yr. at my job. That equals 58 cents an hour. |
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Obama Bin Laden Care. Oh you mean Congresscare because it sure isn't what Obama wanted for us, |
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Why is it okay to take money from others by force? I mean healthcare a right? I won't get nothing but a bill, my healthcare won't change except maybe get worse! Why is it people don't understand working people pay the bills of government and there is no free lunch for us! What happens when we have had enough and refuse to pay your bills anymore! I don't get the thought of freeloading! Do Americans even have pride anymore or are they just all waiting in line with their hand out? Look if you want government healthcare why not just send your money to the government and let them care for you, and allow me to opt out? I tell you why cause you want me to pay for you! That's what this is really about! You want free healthcare for you and double priced heathcare for me right? yeah that's the truth and nobody wants to admit it! Unless you actually beleive the government will make it cheaper! But I can't beleive anyone buys that lie! So which is it? Do you beleive government will make it cheaper or do you want other citizens to pay your share? It makes me sick to hear someone from Calif talk this way. There are 49 other states whose citizens already carry your bill on our taxes. How many bail outs has Calif received from the Fed government anyway? I make good money and have great insurance. I say HC is a right of all humans. Not just Americans but all humans, but then I am not self centered and have humanity. If you have a job and good health quit your bitching. A lot of people have neither. Be grateful for what you do have and get a little humanity in your soul. |
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Obama Bin Laden Care. Oh you mean Congresscare because it sure isn't what Obama wanted for us, Really? So Obama Bin Laden didn't sign it into law? Obama didn't have his people consulting all the way through? He didn't have a Superbowl Party with both Republicans and Democrats to drum up support? Give me a break. |
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Edited by
Fanta46
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You say,
Why is it okay to take money from others by force? insinuating that you are without HC insurance and mad because you are one who will be required, forced as you word it, to buy HC insurance. Then you say, I won't get nothing but a bill, my healthcare won't change except maybe get worse! ??? contradicting?? I'm not sure. Your whole post is confusing now, and is full of mes and Is. Giving the impresssion of self centeredness. Then you go on, I don't get the thought of freeloading! Do Americans even have pride anymore or are they just all waiting in line with their hand out? Look if you want government healthcare why not just send your money to the government and let them care for you, and allow me to opt out? I tell you why cause you want me to pay for you! That's what this is really about! You want free healthcare for you and double priced heathcare for me right? yeah that's the truth and nobody wants to admit it! May you never find yourself in need of help from others, and if you do, may they turn their back on you just as you propose to turn your back on humanity. I better stop now before I tell you what I really think of you. 
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Obama Bin Laden Care. Oh you mean Congresscare because it sure isn't what Obama wanted for us, Really? So Obama Bin Laden didn't sign it into law? Obama didn't have his people consulting all the way through? He didn't have a Superbowl Party with both Republicans and Democrats to drum up support? Give me a break. You are a good Republican.  What Obama wanted is nothing like the bill he signed and you know it. What with the Repubs filibuster and their support for the insurance lobbyist, this bill has no semblance to what Obama or the American people wanted. In fact it is an almost identical bill to what Romney proposed and enacted in Mass. Why don't we call it Repub HC? After all that is what it is! |
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Obama Bin Laden Care. Oh you mean Congresscare because it sure isn't what Obama wanted for us, Really? So Obama Bin Laden didn't sign it into law? Obama didn't have his people consulting all the way through? He didn't have a Superbowl Party with both Republicans and Democrats to drum up support? Give me a break. Still isn't what Obama's ideal vision of healthcare for us. He figured like I did that at least it was something to start the ball rolling. It was a starter bill. |
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A starter is better than nothing.
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Why is it okay to take money from others by force? I mean healthcare a right? I won't get nothing but a bill, my healthcare won't change except maybe get worse! Why is it people don't understand working people pay the bills of government and there is no free lunch for us! What happens when we have had enough and refuse to pay your bills anymore! I don't get the thought of freeloading! Do Americans even have pride anymore or are they just all waiting in line with their hand out? Look if you want government healthcare why not just send your money to the government and let them care for you, and allow me to opt out? I tell you why cause you want me to pay for you! That's what this is really about! You want free healthcare for you and double priced heathcare for me right? yeah that's the truth and nobody wants to admit it! Unless you actually beleive the government will make it cheaper! But I can't beleive anyone buys that lie! So which is it? Do you beleive government will make it cheaper or do you want other citizens to pay your share? It makes me sick to hear someone from Calif talk this way. There are 49 other states whose citizens already carry your bill on our taxes. How many bail outs has Calif received from the Fed government anyway? I make good money and have great insurance. I say HC is a right of all humans. Not just Americans but all humans, but then I am not self centered and have humanity. If you have a job and good health quit your bitching. A lot of people have neither. Be grateful for what you do have and get a little humanity in your soul. First off, makes me sick that california sucks off the fed too, I have said it in other posts! Doesn't mean all californians suck off the system and assuming all californians do is bigoted and inaccuarate!!! I make good money as well, have great health insurance and your missing the point! Just because i am against a system that promises healthcare to the poor doesn't mean i am wrong! Oh yes, your rhetoric makes it seem this way but the reality is this sir! The promise won't be kept! Do you get that? I mean really do you get that? Can't i beleive that it's another lie by breuracrats to suck money into and endless pit that will be nothing but dysfunction? Can't you see that it's not about helping the poor? Really think about it! These programs fail because as nobal as your intentions may be sir that history and reality dictate otherwise! It's rhetoric! They don't give a damn about the poor and will only put in place a front and the problem will not be solved! That's the opinion of the realist! Not that we don't want to help, just that we know from years of getting it in the blank with no grease that its all rhetoric and the people won't receive what promised! Not evreything is a right left issue there is a reality to politics! It's a farse and the American people know it! Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me! Be grateful for what I have? Really sir? Your damn right i'm grateful, grateful for having free speech! And when politicians and their drones tell me shut up and sit down I say hell no! I'm not bitching about helping others, i'm bitching about a farse that is sold as helping the poor that is really a money grab for a failed idealolgy! Don't you get that communism doesn't work? Does not history show this? Ofcourse it does and nationalized healthcare no matter how you slice it is a form of communism and that's only half the problem! It is also being handed to an overbloated, dysfuntional, failed, pathetic beauracracy! So understand the point when people speak it! Utopia although a great idea, it remains just that, an "idea" and in the real world where i live promises from government to help the poor little women and children is just a ploy on my sympathy to get me in the prone position and ready to spread my cheeks! So yes, your damn right i demand my liberty cause i know it is my god given right and i'm not saying sorry for it! I know with liberty I have a check and balance on government and i'm not willing to trade it for a promise of free healthcare! And giving a crackhead free crack is not humane! Throwing money at problems does not work! IF you want to trully help the poor your gonna have to get your hands dirty! Thinking that throwing five bucks in the hat is a fix is absurd! The programs out there that trully work come with money yes but in addition they have tough love and if your honest about this you will see that! Government does not acomplish that task and it never will because of the size of it! these things must be acomplished at the local level period! So before casting judgements at people about their views on an issue understand there is a goal to be acheived right? I may not be against the goal just how you go about acheiving it! I do not beleive Government is the way to acheive healthcare reform! Can you understand that? So assuming i'm not for helping the poor is offensive and inaccurate! I'm not for helping the lazy labeled the poor thru an overbloated beuracracy! Now if i beleived Obama was a saint sent by god and politicians only had the peoples interst in mind then maybe????? LMAO! Always a strawman argument! Sheeeessshhh! |
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Obama Bin Laden Care. really, really? are you honestly comparing the President of your country to Bin Laden? seriously? |
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