Topic: Why Americans still don't have a Job.
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Sun 01/30/11 03:35 PM
allllllllllllll because of Bush era!

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Sun 01/30/11 03:55 PM

allllllllllllll because of Bush era!


It's the Canadians!:wink: laugh laugh

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Sun 01/30/11 04:01 PM
laugh ...you Americans always blame your neighbours laugh ...why is everyone afraid of Bush?...the one who put the World in a mess!!

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Sun 01/30/11 04:26 PM
The Tea Partiers have a crush on him and reminisce of the Bush era.
They get all uppity when we mention how bad he screwed up our country.

laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

Don't I know you?

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Sun 01/30/11 04:29 PM
I dont know about other states but in Louisiana you have about 7 teachers starting in 6th grade. Everyone taught 6 classes during the day. Having between 20-30 students per class for roughly 50 minutes that is 120-180 students in a day. They pretty much only have time for teaching the lesson and assigning the work.

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Sun 01/30/11 04:34 PM
OMG! I think Fanta and I are in semi-agreement on something....time to celebrate! drinker

My point has been that we keep pointing to schools, money, and teachers, but no matter how we address the problems, the problems still remain. That indicates that the primary problem is not the system, but rather something outside the system.

Now yes, food, shelter, and health take a higher priority. But when entire communities cannot afford to educate their children on top of these priorities, then a social change is needed. Large districts plagued by poverty cannot raise enough tax revenue to support themselves.

Does that mean we should bus kids to better schools? Well, that doesn't improve the school in the poor district. The problem still remains.

Should we funnel more money into poor schools from a state or federal level to try to elevate education? We've already tried that in many places, and money solved nothing. The problems have been building for so long that school and the administration are overwhelmed. Teachers don't want to work in such schools because of all the problems. That means poor schools will always get the scraps when it comes to teachers. The students either don't want to learn, or feel the school is wasting their time. Etc. Etc.

Should we push No Child Left Behind, and let poor schools lose funding when students don't meet minimum requirements? Well now....that just digs the hole deeper, doesn't it? Take money away from a school that is already under-funded and probably under-staffed. Hmmm.

Truth is, poor districts rely on education to help residents move out of poverty areas. Poor districts breed disenchantment, disappointment, and resentment. In order to shrink the size of poor districts, people need to feel that they can earn more money and move into a better neighborhood. This is a social change.

Perhaps the best way (and it will cost some money...) is to close down schools in the poor districts, and integrate those schools with public schools in wealthier districts. This is a form of regionalization and requires busing students longer distances, but it also gets rid of the money drain of a school in a poor district. In fact, some cities and towns may have no choice but to do this just because of the education budget, and cities may have to join surrounding towns to regionalize certain districts.

That being said, this still does not solve personal responsibilities of the student and the family when it comes to education. There will be an unstable period of integration. There may be a dip in school performance during this time. Therefore, it may be a few years before there is improvement in overall performance. This means families have to weather it out rather than point fingers and find blame. They need to keep their children on track and off the streets. There will still be neighborhood distractions like drugs and gangs that lure kids away from education. The schools have no control over that outside of the school.

I've known educated people who grew up in a poor district who still resorted to selling drugs just because they were to accustomed to the lifestyle that money brought them. Part of the social change needed is to keep students from turning to gangs and drugs for the "easy money". It isn't all about law enforcement or education. It's about taking control of your little bit of the world and shaping it to be the best for your family. The best way means avoiding gunfire and jail time....the best way to not get caught is to not be involved in illegal activity.

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Sun 01/30/11 04:34 PM

I dont know about other states but in Louisiana you have about 7 teachers starting in 6th grade. Everyone taught 6 classes during the day. Having between 20-30 students per class for roughly 50 minutes that is 120-180 students in a day. They pretty much only have time for teaching the lesson and assigning the work.


LA also has very poor scores.

They spend as much as Ohio, $10,082 per student and have a 13.9 pupil to teacher ratio.

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Sun 01/30/11 04:42 PM

The Tea Partiers have a crush on him and reminisce of the Bush era.
They get all uppity when we mention how bad he screwed up our country.

laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

Don't I know you?


keep blaming everyone ...but the real one who screwed the World up...Bush!

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Sun 01/30/11 04:46 PM
The one who caused 9/11...

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Sun 01/30/11 04:52 PM
I remember that day ...and millions more...and while he was President and the way he was ruling ...had said something bad was going to happen....I remember...and will never forget and forgive!...how he changed the World!

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Sun 01/30/11 04:54 PM

I remember that day ...and millions more...and while he was President and the way he was ruling ...had said something bad was going to happen....I remember...and will never forget and forgive!...how he changed the World!


You go girl!

I'll never forget either.

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Sun 01/30/11 05:47 PM


I remember that day ...and millions more...and while he was President and the way he was ruling ...had said something bad was going to happen....I remember...and will never forget and forgive!...how he changed the World!


You go girl!

I'll never forget either.


But noone ever talks about that day...the real reason why it happened...noone ever questioned Bush...

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Sun 01/30/11 05:48 PM
How the Bush Family was close to Laden Family

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Sun 01/30/11 06:10 PM


I dont know about other states but in Louisiana you have about 7 teachers starting in 6th grade. Everyone taught 6 classes during the day. Having between 20-30 students per class for roughly 50 minutes that is 120-180 students in a day. They pretty much only have time for teaching the lesson and assigning the work.


LA also has very poor scores.

They spend as much as Ohio, $10,082 per student and have a 13.9 pupil to teacher ratio.

Yet I went to schools in LA and was testing in the 90+% so what does that say?

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Sun 01/30/11 06:53 PM
Without knowing you personally it's hard to say, but
it is suggestive of how you apply yourself to the education offered equally to all.








I'll never forget nor allow anyone else to forget either.drinker

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Sun 01/30/11 08:15 PM

I blame it all on Bush!


Stop blaming your Bush! I thought you shaved it!:banana:

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Sun 01/30/11 08:20 PM

The Tea Partiers have a crush on him and reminisce of the Bush era.
They get all uppity when we mention how bad he screwed up our country.

laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

Don't I know you?


Srsly? All the tea partiers I know are against Bush quite severely.

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Sun 01/30/11 08:24 PM
I like Bush, and I like Tea. Sometimes I might have a private Party with both.

But it has more to do with pillow talk than politics.

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Sun 01/30/11 08:30 PM

OMG! I think Fanta and I are in semi-agreement on something....time to celebrate! drinker

My point has been that we keep pointing to schools, money, and teachers, but no matter how we address the problems, the problems still remain. That indicates that the primary problem is not the system, but rather something outside the system.




It's true that there are some problems outside the fascist ("public") school system, but most of its flaws are inherent. It was very much intended as a way of controlling the minds of the youth, as well as creating a massive class of unthinking people to serve as human cogs/drones in industry (such as Andrew Carnegie and Henry Ford's companies). John Taylor Gatto has documented this thoroughly in his books and articles, available in print and free online at johntaylorgatto.com. John Stossel and others have documented this as well.

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Sun 01/30/11 08:51 PM

Gee, the DNC dopes not like it when they get what they do done to them. Real mature of them!

And on top of that how exactly does this damage Obama exactly? He already done his damage to himself and US!!!



damage was done by Bush!