Topic: Role Reversal
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Sat 11/27/10 05:41 PM



just a note: The last I read (about 2-3 yrs ago), women made "on average" 72cents on the dollar to a man. Not much information was in the article though - so I do not know if it was for equal work or just a round about lump total average.


it was for equal work.. I did a paper on it a few years ago.. I think now it's up to 79 or so cents on the dollar..


i wish i would've known about this last week. i would've hired a woman plummer and saved a few bucks on labor

laugh laugh laugh laugh Ese not nice... :tongue:


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Sat 11/27/10 05:43 PM




just a note: The last I read (about 2-3 yrs ago), women made "on average" 72cents on the dollar to a man. Not much information was in the article though - so I do not know if it was for equal work or just a round about lump total average.


it was for equal work.. I did a paper on it a few years ago.. I think now it's up to 79 or so cents on the dollar..


i wish i would've known about this last week. i would've hired a woman plummer and saved a few bucks on labor

laugh laugh laugh laugh Ese not nice... :tongue:




sorry i thought this thread could use a comedy break

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Sat 11/27/10 05:44 PM




Please re-read. You are suggesting that I said something which I did not. Im saying she sacrifices a career to raise children.



My presumption is that men ask women out and 'treat her like a lady' because women will never have equal access to the same high power high paying jobs as men.





Right, I introduced two ideas then went on to explain them.


Typically, the 'treat em like a lady' bit comes in when a man wants to select a mother for his children.




right, you did and i respectfully disagree with both of these ideas.

typically we treat others with respect as a result of our up-bringing. it also is as a result of actually having respect for other people.

i don't see how you have arrived at your position. maybe i am reading this wrong, but if i'm not, it sounds as if you are suggesting that men tread women with two sets of rules. those that could be potential "mothers" of our children and those that we simply see as objects. not all men subscribe to this way of thinking.




aha - the classic "madonna/whore" compex. yes, in fact , this phenomenon is well known and has a name. It is a psychological phenonmenon (I'd say illness) whereby a man marries a "proper" girl but keeps a sexually promiscuous woman on the side. It's where we get the expression: "A girl u can't take home to mother." It's also the good ole "double standard to an extreme, sadly even in this day & age if a woman intends to marry she has to watch her sexual "step" whereas men, of course, do not.

Also why true role reversal cant ever be possible imo

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Sat 11/27/10 06:01 PM

Like I said, just a presumption. Not two sets of women, I was thinking that this is how a man treats women in general....with a different kind of respect, since she (women he dates) is a potential mother of his children.

Respect for other people is great, but its different variety of respect when you open the car door for 'a lady', and not so much for a man.

I assume that it is the man who chooses one way to behave, toward all women, and has his own reasons for why. Ooo, I never even brought up the sex object idea.

I hope that makes some sort of sense.


not really, but I’m a retard, so don’t go by my failure to get this straight. I still have no idea what this has to do with original topic of role reversal, but like I said….

holding the door for someone is being polite, not showing respect.

oh and used the word object…it was you who added the word sex. (since you were so kind as to point out my using the word can’t earlier)


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Sat 11/27/10 06:12 PM




Like I said, just a presumption. Not two sets of women, I was thinking that this is how a man treats women in general....with a different kind of respect, since she (women he dates) is a potential mother of his children.

Respect for other people is great, but its different variety of respect when you open the car door for 'a lady', and not so much for a man.

I assume that it is the man who chooses one way to behave, toward all women, and has his own reasons for why. Ooo, I never even brought up the sex object idea.

I hope that makes some sort of sense.


not really, but I’m a retard, so don’t go by my failure to get this straight. I still have no idea what this has to do with original topic of role reversal, but like I said….

holding the door for someone is being polite, not showing respect.

oh and used the word object…it was you who added the word sex. (since you were so kind as to point out my using the word can’t earlier)



alrighty. what sort of object did you mean?

haha!
i guess that would have to be up to the man in question...

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Sat 11/27/10 06:41 PM
I don't want to be a walking wallet. I want to be a partner. If the lady pays, that's her decision. She better be prepared though because I believe in the Japanese rite of three refusals.

If I genuinely like someone, I will at the very least offer to pay. If she wants to split the bill, I will offer pay the majority. Little things that early on show your interest.

On the first date, I would rather split it, or go tit-for-tat....or buy a few drinks. If I have to pay all of it, I will....but someone who DEMANDS that off the bat has less chance of a second date. I do it because I *want* to do it, not because it is *expected* of me.

krupa's photo
Sat 11/27/10 06:42 PM
....ahem.....

This trash aint just gonna take itself out honey.

Program the remote when you are done with the trash.

Thanks babe. muah

IndnPrncs's photo
Sat 11/27/10 06:43 PM

....ahem.....

This trash aint just gonna take itself out honey.

Program the remote when you are done with the trash.

Thanks babe. muah

laugh laugh laugh laugh I don't do trash but I will cook...

IndnPrncs's photo
Sat 11/27/10 06:47 PM

I don't want to be a walking wallet. I want to be a partner. If the lady pays, that's her decision. She better be prepared though because I believe in the Japanese rite of three refusals.

If I genuinely like someone, I will at the very least offer to pay. If she wants to split the bill, I will offer pay the majority. Little things that early on show your interest.

On the first date, I would rather split it, or go tit-for-tat....or buy a few drinks. If I have to pay all of it, I will....but someone who DEMANDS that off the bat has less chance of a second date. I do it because I *want* to do it, not because it is *expected* of me.


I know few women who "demand"... It's unlikely that I would date a guy that "expected" me to split the bill... If I offer b/c I asked then I do but if he asks he should be will to pay just like I would.. Of course that is "my" dating preference.. Everyone is entitled to date however it works for them.. Which is why some people just don't mesh...

Goofball73's photo
Sat 11/27/10 06:52 PM
I want those pink carnation flowers sent to me at my job so all the guys can look at me and go, Awwwwwwww!

actionlynx's photo
Sat 11/27/10 06:53 PM
Honestly, it doesn't matter to me who asked who out. If the woman offers, then I'm still going to offer to pay at least part.

I actually do know women that expect the man to pay for everything, sadly enough. Even had a female friend try to convince me it was supposed to be that way.

IndnPrncs's photo
Sat 11/27/10 07:01 PM

Honestly, it doesn't matter to me who asked who out. If the woman offers, then I'm still going to offer to pay at least part.

I actually do know women that expect the man to pay for everything, sadly enough. Even had a female friend try to convince me it was supposed to be that way.


Perhaps your friend was "traditional" there is nothing wrong with that in my opinion... Different people, different personalities.. The good thing is that we don't have to date anyone that doesn't mesh with our personality, but it doesn't necessarily make them wrong.. there are plenty of men that would never dream of letting a woman pay..

krupa's photo
Sat 11/27/10 07:28 PM

I want those pink carnation flowers sent to me at my job so all the guys can look at me and go, Awwwwwwww!


Suprizingly...the guys at work would gather like a bunch of women when I would get cookie bouquets or ballon bouquets and yes...even flowers.

I think its cool.

IndnPrncs's photo
Sat 11/27/10 07:29 PM


I want those pink carnation flowers sent to me at my job so all the guys can look at me and go, Awwwwwwww!


Suprizingly...the guys at work would gather like a bunch of women when I would get cookie bouquets or ballon bouquets and yes...even flowers.

I think its cool.


I think it'd be cool too... I'd do that for my man as long as he wouldn't be made to feel "less manly" b/c I did.. That'll cause problems... lol

krupa's photo
Sat 11/27/10 07:33 PM
I like it when a woman wants to buy me useless crap. Same reason I like to blow money on useless crap for a woman.

It aint the fact you are giving or recieving useless crap. It is the fact that someone out there likes you enough to think that you deserve some useless crap. That is sweet!

Goofball73's photo
Sat 11/27/10 07:35 PM


I want those pink carnation flowers sent to me at my job so all the guys can look at me and go, Awwwwwwww!


Suprizingly...the guys at work would gather like a bunch of women when I would get cookie bouquets or ballon bouquets and yes...even flowers.

I think its cool.


My ex wife did this. She sent me a dozen pink and white carnations with a big *** balloon. And all the guys looked at it and said in unison...."Goof. You are gonna get laid so good tonight. Haha!". After that, I requested she send flowers everyday.

IndnPrncs's photo
Sat 11/27/10 07:38 PM

I like it when a woman wants to buy me useless crap. Same reason I like to blow money on useless crap for a woman.

It aint the fact you are giving or recieving useless crap. It is the fact that someone out there likes you enough to think that you deserve some useless crap. That is sweet!


Exactly!

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Sat 11/27/10 07:38 PM



I want those pink carnation flowers sent to me at my job so all the guys can look at me and go, Awwwwwwww!


Suprizingly...the guys at work would gather like a bunch of women when I would get cookie bouquets or ballon bouquets and yes...even flowers.

I think its cool.


My ex wife did this. She sent me a dozen pink and white carnations with a big *** balloon. And all the guys looked at it and said in unison...."Goof. You are gonna get laid so good tonight. Haha!". After that, I requested she send flowers everyday.
well nuthin worse than half a story - how'd that go for ya?

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Sat 11/27/10 07:39 PM

I like it when a woman wants to buy me useless crap. Same reason I like to blow money on useless crap for a woman.

It aint the fact you are giving or recieving useless crap. It is the fact that someone out there likes you enough to think that you deserve some useless crap. That is sweet!


heeeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyy horny boy - it aint useless if it makes ya feel good, (texas men 0 goodnessslaphead )

krupa's photo
Sat 11/27/10 07:40 PM




I want those pink carnation flowers sent to me at my job so all the guys can look at me and go, Awwwwwwww!


Suprizingly...the guys at work would gather like a bunch of women when I would get cookie bouquets or ballon bouquets and yes...even flowers.

I think its cool.


My ex wife did this. She sent me a dozen pink and white carnations with a big *** balloon. And all the guys looked at it and said in unison...."Goof. You are gonna get laid so good tonight. Haha!". After that, I requested she send flowers everyday.
well nuthin worse than half a story - how'd that go for ya?


He had a hot date with his hand and she went out with the florist. (least thats how it worked out for me)