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The only way any of this logicly makes sence is to assume they were rigged to explode. If you think that way you dont need to twist words or twist logic or the laws of physics. They fell exactly as a building would had they been wired for demolition. SImple
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That is too funny. The architects anticipated a jetliner hitting their building in 1960s 
Even with their assumptions that the building could withstand the crash of a jetliner, they had nothing to go on to prove it. They could say it all they want, that doesn't make their assumptions accurate. How many building have withstood a jetliner with that much fuel on board hitting it? Show the proof. Yes they did anticipate an aircraft hitting the building. The aircraft they calculated on was the Boeing 707...not much smaller than the 737 that hit tower one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNskClIyGfY&feature=related See for yourself... Yup he even said at slow speed in the fog. Much lower force and much less damage. |
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The only way any of this logicly makes sence is to assume they were rigged to explode. If you think that way you dont need to twist words or twist logic or the laws of physics. They fell exactly as a building would had they been wired for demolition. SImple Yes use physics and logic to say things don't make since when people with degrees using physics and engineering says it is perfectly possible with physics. CTists love there theories so no matter what proof there is you can't take it away. It just means the new proof is part of the conspiracy. Guess my engineering profs and part of it too. Any my physics teachers. |
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well again they thought the Titanic was indestructible and look what happened. There is no way (as far as I am concerned) that they can guarantee a building. They would have to test it using all variables of conditions.
But I will wait until jerry Springer confirms this 
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The only way any of this logicly makes sence is to assume they were rigged to explode. If you think that way you dont need to twist words or twist logic or the laws of physics. They fell exactly as a building would had they been wired for demolition. SImple No, if you go look at some demolition footage the charges are set at the bottom, not at the top or (heaven forbid) at an upper floor you think a plane might hit. The building fell exactly how a hyperbolic catenary bending/shear open web truss failure reacting (causing) lateral torsional buckling of the compressive support structure. This failure mode has been verified by the photographic evidence of the exterior of the building. The failure was accelerated by the use of light commercial construction materials as opposed to the traditional heavy steel beam/column method. The hyperbolic catenary reduced the supported dimension between columns thereby introducing P-delta of sufficient amount to, combined with thermal weakening, to cause "break over" lateral torsional failure due to introduced bending forces. The failure was further accelerated by the mechanical removal of fireproofing material by the aircraft's abrasion to the structure. The failure was further accelerated by lateral torsional failure of upper chord compressive floor elements which had no reserve capacity and were subject to failure by relatively small lateral impact from the aircraft. The majority of the concrete in this structure was merely floor deck of minimal strength and reinforcement and whose primary function was fireproofing between floors, lateral stability of open web truss top chords and diaphragm shear distribution. Some additional concrete was used for shear walls and major fire protection in stairwells. The failure would have occurred if only the fire was present. |
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Kind of funny how they sifted through every inch of that soil and found the remains of all the victims yet didn't find a single piece of explosives.It would have taken well over a million pounds of explosives.Thousands of miles of wires.Thousands of people hanging and stringing wires all over the building for several months and probably years and yet not a single person working there saw any of this?
Get a life.You need one. |
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"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic".
Arthur C. Clarke |
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The only way any of this logicly makes sence is to assume they were rigged to explode. If you think that way you dont need to twist words or twist logic or the laws of physics. They fell exactly as a building would had they been wired for demolition. SImple No, if you go look at some demolition footage the charges are set at the bottom, not at the top or (heaven forbid) at an upper floor you think a plane might hit. The building fell exactly how a hyperbolic catenary bending/shear open web truss failure reacting (causing) lateral torsional buckling of the compressive support structure. This failure mode has been verified by the photographic evidence of the exterior of the building. The failure was accelerated by the use of light commercial construction materials as opposed to the traditional heavy steel beam/column method. The hyperbolic catenary reduced the supported dimension between columns thereby introducing P-delta of sufficient amount to, combined with thermal weakening, to cause "break over" lateral torsional failure due to introduced bending forces. The failure was further accelerated by the mechanical removal of fireproofing material by the aircraft's abrasion to the structure. The failure was further accelerated by lateral torsional failure of upper chord compressive floor elements which had no reserve capacity and were subject to failure by relatively small lateral impact from the aircraft. The majority of the concrete in this structure was merely floor deck of minimal strength and reinforcement and whose primary function was fireproofing between floors, lateral stability of open web truss top chords and diaphragm shear distribution. Some additional concrete was used for shear walls and major fire protection in stairwells. The failure would have occurred if only the fire was present. A witch !! |
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Kind of funny how they sifted through every inch of that soil and found the remains of all the victims yet didn't find a single piece of explosives.It would have taken well over a million pounds of explosives.Thousands of miles of wires.Thousands of people hanging and stringing wires all over the building for several months and probably years and yet not a single person working there saw any of this? Get a life.You need one. Complete Article http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/00000001/7TOCPJ.SGM Abstract: We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we have studied of the dust produced by the destruction of the World Trade Center. Examination of four of these samples, collected from separate sites, is reported in this paper. These red/gray chips show marked similarities in all four samples. One sample was collected by a Manhattan resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second WTC Tower, two the next day, and a fourth about a week later. The properties of these chips were analyzed using optical microscopy, scanning electron microscopy (SEM), X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry (DSC). The red material contains grains approximately 100 nm across which are largely iron oxide, while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like structures. Separation of components using methyl ethyl ketone demonstrated that elemental aluminum is present. The iron oxide and aluminum are intimately mixed in the red material. When ignited in a DSC device the chips exhibit large but narrow exotherms occurring at approximately 430 °C, far below the normal ignition temperature for conventional thermite. Numerous iron-rich spheres are clearly observed in the residue following the ignition of these peculiar red/gray chips. The red portion of these chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly energetic. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=13049 Your uninformed comments amuse me. |
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Kind of funny how they sifted through every inch of that soil and found the remains of all the victims yet didn't find a single piece of explosives.It would have taken well over a million pounds of explosives.Thousands of miles of wires.Thousands of people hanging and stringing wires all over the building for several months and probably years and yet not a single person working there saw any of this? Get a life.You need one. Complete Article http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/00000001/7TOCPJ.SGM Abstract: We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we have studied of the dust produced by the destruction of the World Trade Center. Examination of four of these samples, collected from separate sites, is reported in this paper. These red/gray chips show marked similarities in all four samples. One sample was collected by a Manhattan resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second WTC Tower, two the next day, and a fourth about a week later. The properties of these chips were analyzed using optical microscopy, scanning electron microscopy (SEM), X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry (DSC). The red material contains grains approximately 100 nm across which are largely iron oxide, while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like structures. Separation of components using methyl ethyl ketone demonstrated that elemental aluminum is present. The iron oxide and aluminum are intimately mixed in the red material. When ignited in a DSC device the chips exhibit large but narrow exotherms occurring at approximately 430 °C, far below the normal ignition temperature for conventional thermite. Numerous iron-rich spheres are clearly observed in the residue following the ignition of these peculiar red/gray chips. The red portion of these chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly energetic. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=13049 Your uninformed comments amuse me. Wow you have a single paragraph from some unknown website with evidence collected by some no name person which hasn't even been verified by anyone else. 
I have some ocean front property in Kansas I would like to sell you.Yes the ocean does reach Kansas because I have a website that says so and so does one of my friends.So it has to be fact! |
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Kind of funny how they sifted through every inch of that soil and found the remains of all the victims yet didn't find a single piece of explosives.It would have taken well over a million pounds of explosives.Thousands of miles of wires.Thousands of people hanging and stringing wires all over the building for several months and probably years and yet not a single person working there saw any of this? Get a life.You need one. Complete Article http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/00000001/7TOCPJ.SGM Abstract: We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we have studied of the dust produced by the destruction of the World Trade Center. Examination of four of these samples, collected from separate sites, is reported in this paper. These red/gray chips show marked similarities in all four samples. One sample was collected by a Manhattan resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second WTC Tower, two the next day, and a fourth about a week later. The properties of these chips were analyzed using optical microscopy, scanning electron microscopy (SEM), X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry (DSC). The red material contains grains approximately 100 nm across which are largely iron oxide, while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like structures. Separation of components using methyl ethyl ketone demonstrated that elemental aluminum is present. The iron oxide and aluminum are intimately mixed in the red material. When ignited in a DSC device the chips exhibit large but narrow exotherms occurring at approximately 430 °C, far below the normal ignition temperature for conventional thermite. Numerous iron-rich spheres are clearly observed in the residue following the ignition of these peculiar red/gray chips. The red portion of these chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly energetic. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=13049 Your uninformed comments amuse me. Wow you have a single paragraph from some unknown website with evidence collected by some no name person which hasn't even been verified by anyone else.
I have some ocean front property in Kansas I would like to sell you.Yes the ocean does reach Kansas because I have a website that says so and so does one of my friends.So it has to be fact!
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Kind of funny how they sifted through every inch of that soil and found the remains of all the victims yet didn't find a single piece of explosives.It would have taken well over a million pounds of explosives.Thousands of miles of wires.Thousands of people hanging and stringing wires all over the building for several months and probably years and yet not a single person working there saw any of this? Get a life.You need one. Complete Article http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/00000001/7TOCPJ.SGM Yea we already explained they physics of WHY they fell the way they did. Not our fault if you cant understand it or chose to ignore it. I even provided links to engineers saying why it fell that way. Abstract: We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we have studied of the dust produced by the destruction of the World Trade Center. Examination of four of these samples, collected from separate sites, is reported in this paper. These red/gray chips show marked similarities in all four samples. One sample was collected by a Manhattan resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second WTC Tower, two the next day, and a fourth about a week later. The properties of these chips were analyzed using optical microscopy, scanning electron microscopy (SEM), X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry (DSC). The red material contains grains approximately 100 nm across which are largely iron oxide, while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like structures. Separation of components using methyl ethyl ketone demonstrated that elemental aluminum is present. The iron oxide and aluminum are intimately mixed in the red material. When ignited in a DSC device the chips exhibit large but narrow exotherms occurring at approximately 430 °C, far below the normal ignition temperature for conventional thermite. Numerous iron-rich spheres are clearly observed in the residue following the ignition of these peculiar red/gray chips. The red portion of these chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly energetic. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=13049 Your uninformed comments amuse me. Wow you have a single paragraph from some unknown website with evidence collected by some no name person which hasn't even been verified by anyone else.
I have some ocean front property in Kansas I would like to sell you.Yes the ocean does reach Kansas because I have a website that says so and so does one of my friends.So it has to be fact!
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It will just be one of those elusive conspiracy theories to get people all worked up but no proof to make it real.
There are people who love conspiracies and they will nurse this one. |
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Even when every bit of this garbage has been debunked
http://www.debunking911.com/thermite.htm the worst (it didn't fall over like a tree!) theory is used. Sad. Really really sad. Why don't you use your spare time to get an education? |
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Even when every bit of this garbage has been debunked http://www.debunking911.com/thermite.htm the worst (it didn't fall over like a tree!) theory is used. Sad. Really really sad. Why don't you use your spare time to get an education? Farmer, Dean of Rutger Universities’ School of Law and former Attorney General of New Jersey, was responsible for drafting the original flawed 9/11 report. Does Farmer have cooperation and agreement from other members of the Commission? Yes. Did they say Bush ordered 9/11? No. Do they say that the 9/11 Commission was lied to by the FBI, CIA, Whitehouse and NORAD? Yes. Is there full documentary proof of this? Yes. Farmer states…“at some level of the government, at some point in time…there was an agreement not to tell the truth about what happened… I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described …. The [Norad air defense] tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years. This is not spin.” The 9/11 Commission head, Thomas Kean, was the Republican governor of New Jersey. He had the following to say… “We to this day don’t know why NORAD [the North American Aerospace Command] told us what they told us, it was just so far from the truth. . . ” When Bush’s own handpicked commission failed to go along with the cover up and requested a criminal investigation, why was nothing done? http://spktruth2power.wordpress.com/2010/01/25/the-911-commission-rejects-own-report-as-based-on-government-lies/ You can google all day and find that even the 911 commission admits they believe their report was based on lies. |
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I think its most likely that the government had information that such an attack was eminent(as condi testified to later, although she claimed they thought it was only one of many erroneous threats)
much like many california buildings are built to withstand earthquakes(they have special rollers to help them absorb shifts), I think government buildings in strategic places, like new york, were equipped with emergency 'self destruct' type plans such as implosion devices after the first plane hit, I do believe it probable and possible that these backup emergency measures were taken to decrease fallout(falling straight down instead of exploding outward in a larger radius) ,,,not a conspiracy, just a theory,,,,and like JFK or MLK or Malcolm X assassinations we may never hear the WHOLE TRUTH |
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I think its most likely that the government had information that such an attack was eminent(as condi testified to later, although she claimed they thought it was only one of many erroneous threats) much like many california buildings are built to withstand earthquakes(they have special rollers to help them absorb shifts), I think government buildings in strategic places, like new york, were equipped with emergency 'self destruct' type plans such as implosion devices after the first plane hit, I do believe it probable and possible that these backup emergency measures were taken to decrease fallout(falling straight down instead of exploding outward in a larger radius) ,,,not a conspiracy, just a theory,,,,and like JFK or MLK or Malcolm X assassinations we may never hear the WHOLE TRUTH They install explosives in buildings just in case they may one day be on the brink of collapse and then have the ability to push a button and poof ? You do realize that in order to properly demolish a large building they have to drill hundreds of holes in the core columns? You don't think that core columns with hundreds of holes drilled into them would create some compromising issues that would be unsafe? This thread just keeps getting better and better.. |
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Edited by
InvictusV
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That is too funny. The architects anticipated a jetliner hitting their building in 1960s
Even with their assumptions that the building could withstand the crash of a jetliner, they had nothing to go on to prove it. They could say it all they want, that doesn't make their assumptions accurate. How many building have withstood a jetliner with that much fuel on board hitting it? Show the proof. Yes they did anticipate an aircraft hitting the building. The aircraft they calculated on was the Boeing 707...not much smaller than the 737 that hit tower one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNskClIyGfY&feature=related See for yourself... But the question has to be did they calculate for a missile disguised to look like a plane hitting the towers? I need to see some evidence that those calculations were carried out as well or this theory seems illogical.. |
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Edited by
InvictusV
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Fri 11/19/10 09:23 AM
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The only way any of this logicly makes sence is to assume they were rigged to explode. If you think that way you dont need to twist words or twist logic or the laws of physics. They fell exactly as a building would had they been wired for demolition. SImple Logic and Physics.. Strange Bedfellows.. Newton's Laws of Motion certainly can be applied.. I. Every object in a state of uniform motion tends to remain in that state of motion unless an external force is applied to it. II. The relationship between an object's mass m, its acceleration a, and the applied force F is F = ma. Acceleration and force are vectors (as indicated by their symbols being displayed in slant bold font); in this law the direction of the force vector is the same as the direction of the acceleration vector. III. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr161/lect/history/newton3laws.html These principles kind of make you wonder how impossible what you consider illogical are in fact possible.. I would assume that all 3 of these principles can be applied to support what those of us feel is the most logical of precursor to collapse sequences. Far be it for me to mix logic backed with actual physics, but hey I'm not a union guy that talks about this stuff when I'm on break.. |
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much like many california buildings are built to withstand earthquakes(they have special rollers to help them absorb shifts), I think government buildings in strategic places, like new york, were equipped with emergency 'self destruct' type plans such as implosion devices after the first plane hit, I do believe it probable and possible that these backup emergency measures were taken to decrease fallout(falling straight down instead of exploding outward in a larger radius) ,,,not a conspiracy, just a theory,,,,and like JFK or MLK or Malcolm X assassinations we may never hear the WHOLE TRUTH Did you think up this theory all by yourself? |
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