Excuse me but that is just downright stupid...I mean really.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2009/sep/10/9-11-towers-simulation-engineering

Why dont we listen to Purdue University and the American Society of Civil Engineers?

I just had to repeat for those who used to discount FOX and are now honoring them.

Because they are shills.

"Government-Funded Investigators Accused Of WTC Cover-Up
American Society of Civil Engineers lied about inability of skyscrapers to withstand airliner impacts

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Wednesday, March 26, 2008


The American Society of Civil Engineers - an organization that was funded by FEMA to investigate the collapse of the twin towers on 9/11 - has been accused of engaging in a cover-up to protect the government, with critics charging the organization falsified conclusions that skyscrapers could not withstand getting hit by airplanes.

The group has been forced to convene an investigative panel which could lead to a suspension in government funding.

The Federal Emergency Management Agency paid the group about $257,000 to investigate the World Trade Center collapse and their report was released in 2002.

In an attempt to explain away the complete implosion of the twin towers shortly after the planes hit, the study concluded that skyscrapers were not designed to withstand jetliner impacts, a claim completely disproved by historical studies and contemporary investigations.

"Abolhassan Astaneh-Asl, a structural engineer and forensics expert, contends his computer simulations disprove the society's findings that skyscrapers could not be designed to withstand the impact of a jetliner," reports the Associated Press.
[link to ap.google.com]

"Astaneh-Asl, who received money from the National Science Foundation to investigate the collapse, insisted most New York skyscrapers built with traditional designs would survive such an impact and prevent the kind of fires that brought down the twin towers."

The group are also under scrutiny for their investigation of the failure of New Orleans' levees during Hurricane Katrina."

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message526343/pg1

this is true also the plane didn't hit the very top so the remainder of the building above where the plane didnt hit was dead weight. so when the fire weaked the structure of where alot of the load bearing was it gave way,people don't realize just because something melts at a certain degrees the metal itself can still weakin before it melts,so if it take iron 2200 degrees to melt but the fire got 1800 degrees well the 1800 degrees is still going to cause structures to weaking by half meaning its not going to hold up the weight,basically metal doesn't have to melt to fail.but like i've stated before i'm open to any possibilities,but i still 80% believe it wasn't a conspiracy

No, this is for the people who think POX IS legit...sometimes they are..it's about .001% but the (WTC7) AD was the point of posting this. No one in "honoring" POX.

Stay on topic or go feed more alfalfa to the rabbits...

Yes people don't want to actually listen to the people that study this stuff do they?
http://www.debunking911.com/freefall.htm

Sigh

Oh goody, another "expert" who thinks that heat does not rise...egads, look at this photo again people. This building exploded....POOF!

Meh, debunking911 is a site that will not name it's owners and is a clearing house for BS beyond belief. It's a COINTELPRO operation to disuade discussion and to pervert the facts. FAIL!

An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it. Truth stands, even if there be no public support. It is self-sustained. — Gandhi

http://brianrwright.com/Coffee_Coaster/03_Book_Reviews/2008/080123_Debunking_911_Debunking.htm

Uh there was tons of Jet fuel.. That stuff can explode. Not to mention all the air in the building is being forced out by the collapse so it moves outward and causes a dust cloud. Please study science.

This is on topic, Wally.
I'm referencing ya'lls source and how ya'll will honor FOX when it seems to suit your purpose.

This thread is going by so fast, I guess the MODS haven't caught the attacks or condescending slurs.

Who did you say was stupid?

Here again, a posterchild hijacks a thread because he doesn't like it. I called a person's notion "stupid" not the person...this to get a thread kicked..again. When that's the only defense against reality then it'd be prudent to not comment at all.

GFY (Good For You!)



"1360 verified architectural and engineering professionals and 10286 other supporters, including AE students, have signed the petition demanding of Congress a truly independent investigation."

The petition is open to everyone.

http://www.ae911truth.org/

FOX NEWS.
FAIR AND BALANCED!

GFY, back atcha'.

Jets can explode upon impacting another object and be scientifically verifiable......nu-huh......don't say its so.........that must be pseudo-science

For one, its not stupid to think that if people really wanted to spread the truth they would do it without trying to turn a profit.

People supporting an investigation does not mean they support a conspiracy theory. Maybe they are tired of conspiracy nuts that don't listen to them when they explain the physics.

I mean you ignored out physics explanations completely. Sorry if I trust my education and engineering professors over conspiracy websites.

Ooof.

Rivera is opening another EMPTY BOX.



Read about his first and the type of source used to pass off a CT.

When Geraldo Rivera cracked open Al Ca-pone's secret vault on live TV on April 27, 1986, America didn't know what to expect. Big Al's best silk boxers? His favorite baseball bat? An Eliot Ness dartboard? Anticipation was high, and Rivera, already renowned for theatrics as an ABC news reporter, played to the audience with trademark skill. Standing in the basement of Chicago's abandoned Lexington Hotel, once the notorious prohibition-era gangster's headquarters and site of the vault, Rivera breathlessly proclaimed, ''This mystery is going to be resolved!'' Then he blasted away with a Thompson submachine gun and blew down a chunk of wall using a gangster-style dynamite plunger.

But the payoff, alas, never came. After nearly two hours of frenzied buildup, with IRS agents and police crime-lab technicians standing by in case loot-or bodies-were unearthed, Rivera gathered his excavation crew around him, peered into the hole, and admitted to the folks at home that what he had turned up was pure dirt.

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6360516n

Yea I think that is Jet Fuel. Looks a lot the same doesn't it?
Though I could verify your other site. I could try to sign the petition and see if they ask for my engineering license. Which I have. Do you have one?

You are wasting your breath. I have already published the material science, physics, math, code requirements, fireproofing details, etc., for these clowns and they are going to keep up the garbage because they can't handle the math and science. They think the building code has a section that says "Design for airliner attack." They think the American Society of Civil Engineers is a flunky of the US government instead of the actual engineers who design all the buildings in the US. They can't grasp the fact that a large piece of steel punched out one of the two main interior supports of Bdg 7.

Anyone with only a little structural knowledge can tell that thousands of gallons of jet fuel burning was all that was required to bring down any steel structure.

"Pull the Building" means "Get the Firemen out".

But every few months they will start a new thread with the same old garbage to hide the "truth".

The point was and is that most of the fuel burned on the outside of the building...plus go ahead and sign up at AE and submit a paper...it can be peer reviewed there. I have no degree in engineering but who needs one to observe the obvious?

Can you link some of your papers so we can review them...got any? Really?

People need to remember that for every top graduate there's a bottom level which I think we are observing here.