Topic: Operating system troll- I'm bored
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Wed 01/05/11 05:59 AM
Edited by RainbowTrout on Wed 01/05/11 06:51 AM
I have been looking into that, Mr. Fobroth. On the next reboot Fedora went haywire on me. It started to load and said ok a few times. Then it balked. It happened when I went back to Ubuntu through having the change back to the SATA. I was also studying VMware and I think Virtualbox came out of the VMware. The thing is I like Fedora 14 and Ubuntu 10.10. I thought Fedora 14 had the Chrome9 thing worked out with VIA. I have been to the OpenChrome site. Linux all around so far I have noticed is having trouble with the on-board Chrome video card. I mean you can have a generic driver but not the complete driver unless OpenSuse has it figured it out. I tried the Sp1 OpenSuse driver but no luck so far. OpenChrome came out of UniChrome. Biostar has a free driver checker if you are using Windows.laugh Yep. Its a Biostar motherboard. It is like I have been to Biostar and to VIA Technologies. Linux has great support for Nvidia and ATI but OpenChrome is like still a copyright thing for them. But I am not giving up.:smile:

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Wed 01/05/11 11:55 AM
http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch01.html#id466469

I am reading up on it.:smile:

http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Documentation

I am downloading it now.:smile:

It can't mess it up any more than I have in the past.laugh

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Thu 01/06/11 12:44 PM
Hi RainbowTrout,
Not sure if you'd read this or are already experiencing it on your own; a virtual machine isn't going to provide extra funtionality beyond what's set-up/ active on the host os. For example, one can't start a non-accelerated x session with the free nv nvidia graphics driver and boot a virtual machine and expect to use accelerated graphics in the virtual machine.

It just sounded like you could save a lot of time and stress on your box by booting up a solid main os from your sata drive and then load virtual machines stored on the extra space on your other drives. Another part of the beauty of that is if a virtual machine becomes unusable, for whatever reason ;), it's only the virtual machine that's borked. It's easier to delete it and create a new one over re-installing a main os. And, in your case, having to enter bios setup to configure the boot device. (and why not choose an os with a boot loader?)

I hope I didn't mislead you. Virtual machines are still fun, aren't they? (I hope you're not disappointed, anyway)
Figures you have to be playing with graphics acceleration...sigh ;)

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Thu 01/06/11 04:21 PM
Edited by RainbowTrout on Thu 01/06/11 04:22 PM

Hi RainbowTrout,
Not sure if you'd read this or are already experiencing it on your own; a virtual machine isn't going to provide extra funtionality beyond what's set-up/ active on the host os. For example, one can't start a non-accelerated x session with the free nv nvidia graphics driver and boot a virtual machine and expect to use accelerated graphics in the virtual machine.

It just sounded like you could save a lot of time and stress on your box by booting up a solid main os from your sata drive and then load virtual machines stored on the extra space on your other drives. Another part of the beauty of that is if a virtual machine becomes unusable, for whatever reason ;), it's only the virtual machine that's borked. It's easier to delete it and create a new one over re-installing a main os. And, in your case, having to enter bios setup to configure the boot device. (and why not choose an os with a boot loader?)

I hope I didn't mislead you. Virtual machines are still fun, aren't they? (I hope you're not disappointed, anyway)
Figures you have to be playing with graphics acceleration...sigh ;)
Will start another thread on Virtualbox OSE. You anticipated right what I would try next.


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Sat 01/08/11 11:26 PM
Started with Dos, have used all the windows from 3.1 up to 7
messed with linux since red hat 5 was new. know more of how windows works and fixing it than linux but getting there with it

Desktop: Ubuntu 10.04
- Virtual box of Win 7 for testing

Server: Windows server 2008 R2
- Ubuntu server 10.10 once I figure out why I'm getting a no i686 kernal error during install
^ if anyone knows why please clue me in

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Sun 01/09/11 09:25 AM
I am going to try Peppermint. It is supposed to be based on Debian, Ubuntu, and Mint. I am not sure what Liquorix is but it is supposed to be based on Zen and it a little different than the Linux kernel.

http://pclinuxos2007.blogspot.com/2010/07/liquorix-squeezes-most-out-of-your.html

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Sun 01/09/11 12:03 PM
Okay. I downloaded it and ran it. The boot loader didn't work. Fascinating though that it tried to load up like Fedora 13. This must be some Debian Red Hat cross-breed. It uses Casper. I am glad it was just a 454 MB file. I noticed that Mepis has went past the alpha stage with 11 and the beta is now offered.

Shane Remington has announced the release of Peppermint OS One-01042011, an Ubuntu-based distribution featuring the LXDE desktop and many integrated web-based applications: "We are proud to announce the availability of Peppermint OS One-01042011 being the latest respin of our original release. This version offers a fully updated system as of January 4, 2011 and comes with some bug fixes as well as some new features. The default kernel has been updated to 2.6.35 in order to stay more current regarding hardware support and to match the kernel in Peppermint Ice. The Hardware Abstraction Layer (HAL) has been completely removed from this version in order to help with performance and to increase application modularity. The default screenshot application has been replaced with PyShot, a simple Python/GTK+ application."

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Sun 01/09/11 01:21 PM
I am trying this PCLinuxOs next. I just found out that it is VIA compatible.

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Sun 01/09/11 03:07 PM

I am trying this PCLinuxOs next. I just found out that it is VIA compatible.


I used PCLinuxOS about four years ago - at the time it was probably the BEST distro for newcomers. The did a good job of selecting apps that covered all the basic needs, without much redundancy or complexity, and organized/named them well for beginners.

I'm curious how they are coming along these days, but not so curious that I'll burn and boot.

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Sun 01/09/11 09:22 PM
I got PCLinuxOs on now. It is pretty awesome. I am still trying to install it. It downloaded great. It uses Synaptic and Debian Etch. I thought it would detect the Chrome9 off the bat but found out that it has to be configured. I really should take the other two NICs out I guess. Two sound units, since I got the HP headset, 3 NICs, 4 hard drives and a partridge in a pear tree. Just kidding about the partridge. It does stuff fast. Got the unknown Linux system after I thought I first had it installed. Grub recover came up but it just stalled there. At least it would boot with the cd which is more than I could say for Peppermintos. I really like it. Now I would just like to understand it.laugh

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Mon 01/10/11 06:21 AM
Okay. I turned it off for the night and then this morning I didn't have to have the cd in the cd rom because it loaded the grub. Before I was getting unknown file system and the grub error. It is really Debian like this PCLinuxOS 2010.12

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Tue 01/11/11 09:48 AM
i have used every OS imaginable from SCOPE,DOS,DoubleDOS to windows 7 i have 2 servers,well 3 servers if you include a seedbox and 6 pc's.

on the servers i run FReeBSD,and a linux distro i tweaked myself based on feisty fawn Ubuntu. most of my pc's are windows pc's have win98,winxp,vista,windows 7 mostly these are for network gaming when friends drop by and also when someone calls me for tech support its easier if i can browse the OS as im going along talking to them i forget some of the really old windows crap sometimes like windows 98 but have a few clients who use it still lol


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Thu 01/13/11 02:06 PM
Sorry. It might be just my opinion but PCLinusOS was not my flavour of choice. I am back on Fedora 14 right now. The Chrome9 was for earlier versions of Chrome9 and not mine. The OS was just too strange for my taste. AlienWare it was to me.laugh But that name was already taken. No disrespect to AlienWare; I like what they have done for RealPlayer for Linux. I have been tempted to try the BSD. This time I did the Fedora 14 I paid more attention to what I was doing. I didn't set my root password to be the same as my user password and that helped. I still will be wanting to research the OpenChrome project some more not that I am a programmer or anything. I had enough to deal with when it came to just simple programming. A friend just gave me another old computer. This time an old EMachine. it makes a wonderful new addition to my computer graveyard.laugh

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Thu 01/13/11 11:50 PM
Its not my favorite, either, but what was it you didn't like about PCLinuxOS?

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Fri 01/14/11 03:52 PM

Its not my favorite, either, but what was it you didn't like about PCLinuxOS?


First, it was the forums there. I don't know. Maybe it was that texstar gets a lot of dumb questions asked.laugh I was afraid to ask a question. It didn't seem community based. It didn't seem friendly to me there. Even though I really enjoyed reading how one should ask a question.

Second, I like getting updates like Fedora and Ubuntu does. I know it is Debian-based but lets just say I am not that technically-minded. I am not a big fan of Synaptic because I have made some major boo boos there in the past. As LinusXPOS states in their distribution (paraphrasing) "You just want a operating system that acts like it is supposed to act". (I definitely came from Microsoft and not Linux. Even though I prefer Linux.)

Third, When I tried to initially tried to load the OS it was like pulling teeth. Of, course I read where they were having problems with their boot loader. It has the old type grub even though it is graphical. I think Debian's LILO is better than PCLinuxOS's graphical and that is funny because I like graphical better.

Fourth, It was like Greek to me. Which really doesn't say that much for me but, hey, maybe I am just spoiled to OSes that I am used, too. laugh

Fifth, I thought his system was as controlling as Microsoft. And I guess you will have to forgive me for that. I am really not trying to insult the OS.rofl

Sixth, You have to use paint stripper to get rid of the OS. I used Fdisk, gparted, and I almost thought I was going to have to do a low format of my hard drive to get the OS off my hard drive. Kind of reminds me of one Vista user told me about.

Seventh, I was disappointed that the Chrome9 didn't cover my particular embedded graphics. Although, I was amazed how much good the OS was on my other VIA stuff on my motherboard. Even though I got rid of the OS I will miss that part of the OS.:smile:

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Fri 01/14/11 04:14 PM
Well, I haven't used PCLinuxOS in many years. Maybe they just started to suck recently.

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Fri 01/14/11 06:55 PM
I dual

ubuntu/vista


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Sat 01/15/11 04:55 PM
I am going to try the Super Os, next. It is a derivitive of Ubuntu Meerkat. It is on the hacktolive website.

http://superubuntu.linuxfreedom.com/download.html

I think this Linux Freedom is an interesting website.:smile:


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Sat 01/15/11 10:40 PM
The HTTP worked great and was saved in downloads. It saved the file and when I went back online it continued to download. It is a Super Ubuntu. I especially like that is is your normal Ubuntu 10.10 but allows you a lot more. The Ubuntu Tweak is cool. Of course, you need a dvd to burn with instead of a cd because it is a 1.1 gb file instead of the 688 mb. So in other words, the Ubuntu tweak uses your update manager for Ubuntu updates and super os updates. I found that if you are running Fedora 14 when you are planning to open the iso it is better to open the folder and not the file because it wanted to crash Fedora.

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Wed 01/26/11 07:00 PM
I noticed that the latest version of Mandriva has the same grub 1.5 that PCLinuxOS has. Its on one drive but it is KDE. I just wanted to see what it would perform like. A friend was wanting Mandrake and I found that Mandriva used to be Mandrake back in 1998 before it joined with another. He is trying the Mandriva on his PC.:smile: