Topic: betrayal
Sleepless_nights_78's photo
Sat 10/23/10 09:10 PM

sorry sleepless-you'll get through it! I've had 2 LTRs (one being the marriage) & they didn't cheat on me or lie a lot, but oh the other hells I have endured behind drunk/drug induced BS is enough to last several lifetimes!

thanks but there's no need to be sorry. I'm a survior just like so many others that are out there. I'm starting to trust people again. It took time to realize a few things and that's how I found better friends now. Not just the ones that are out for their own agenda's. Life is great even with the sleepless_nights.

RowBaby's photo
Sat 10/23/10 11:13 PM

Its cause darkness is attracted to the brightest lights Darlin smooched


Thanks Venus flowerforyou smooched

davidben1's photo
Sat 10/23/10 11:19 PM
OMG...

don't you know, the more you stare at your own pain, the more you will recreate it, because, self will never see what itself did, that it could have done different, and so self changes not, thinking that other's are the culprit...

easy to do, and hard NOT to do, redily admitted, and not underestimated, but this is but a self downward spiral, turning self into some or all that itself despised in other's...

those that comfort because they wish for comfort themself, simply create "misery love's company", so, self will but MAGNETIZE ITSELF, TO THE SAME TYPE ENERGY, SAME TYPE PEOPLE, OVER AND OVER, until...

against the grain, against the inclination, against the will, against the natrual, against the mass, against the blame, but the more blame self take, the more itself see's, the more self see, the more self GETS WHAT IT WANTS.

Queene123's photo
Sun 10/24/10 12:46 AM

OMG...

don't you know, the more you stare at your own pain, the more you will recreate it, because, self will never see what itself did, that it could have done different, and so self changes not, thinking that other's are the culprit...

easy to do, and hard NOT to do, redily admitted, and not underestimated, but this is but a self downward spiral, turning self into some or all that itself despised in other's...

those that comfort because they wish for comfort themself, simply create "misery love's company", so, self will but MAGNETIZE ITSELF, TO THE SAME TYPE ENERGY, SAME TYPE PEOPLE, OVER AND OVER, until...

against the grain, against the inclination, against the will, against the natrual, against the mass, against the blame, but the more blame self take, the more itself see's, the more self see, the more self GETS WHAT IT WANTS.


thats why i dont hang around the negativiy anymore or let anyone put me down.. i think my spirituality has open alot more over the years

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Sun 10/24/10 09:40 AM
those that comfort because they wish for comfort themself, simply create "misery love's company", so, self will but MAGNETIZE ITSELF, TO THE SAME TYPE ENERGY, SAME TYPE PEOPLE, OVER AND OVER, until...



Maybe you should be speaking for your self ...I comfort someone to ease thier unhappiness out of compassion and caring...to cheer them up...maybe you should try it eh ohwell

Gossipmpm's photo
Sun 10/24/10 09:43 AM
I have never really been betryed...guess the drinking was just my ex"s own sickness..............


Men have never really hurt me bad.............


guess i am lucky........................:heart:

Gossipmpm's photo
Sun 10/24/10 09:49 AM


I have never really been betryed...guess the drinking was just my ex"s own sickness..............


Men have never really hurt me bad.............


guess i am lucky........................:heart:


You have made your 'luck' with your strong heart.



thank you!


that bought a tear to my eye...........

your sweet...........thank you again!!:heart:

TxsGal3333's photo
Sun 10/24/10 09:59 AM
I thought I had something to say here till I read all of the post..... My life has not been perfect but now that I look at it, it has not been as bad as I thought it had been..

What most need to look at is that regardless what has happen in the past some how along the line it made you a stronger person...

Just make sure that in the end it does not harden your heart & thoughts about life.........

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Sun 10/24/10 10:00 AM



OMG...

don't you know, the more you stare at your own pain, the more you will recreate it, because, self will never see what itself did, that it could have done different, and so self changes not, thinking that other's are the culprit...

easy to do, and hard NOT to do, redily admitted, and not underestimated, but this is but a self downward spiral, turning self into some or all that itself despised in other's...

those that comfort because they wish for comfort themself, simply create "misery love's company", so, self will but MAGNETIZE ITSELF, TO THE SAME TYPE ENERGY, SAME TYPE PEOPLE, OVER AND OVER, until...

against the grain, against the inclination, against the will, against the natrual, against the mass, against the blame, but the more blame self take, the more itself see's, the more self see, the more self GETS WHAT IT WANTS.


thats why i dont hang around the negativiy anymore or let anyone put me down.. i think my spirituality has open alot more over the years



Ya, most of these posts share how they have changed or learned from their unfortunate experience. None of them appear to 'stare at their pain'. Quite a judgement/assumption from someone who did not share anything of what the op asked.



nothing is actually learned from any painful experience, until one look not at it's own pain.

the only thing learned by looking at self pain, is self assessments of HOW OTHER'S WERE THE BLAME AND CULPRIT.

mine was NOT SHARED, BECAUSE MY PAIN DON'T MATTER.

lol...

the sharing of the "pain", be the proof that show what is MOST IMPORTANT TO SELF, LOL...


Queene123's photo
Sun 10/24/10 11:11 AM
Edited by Queene123 on Sun 10/24/10 11:12 AM

I have never really been betryed...guess the drinking was just my ex"s own sickness..............


Men have never really hurt me bad.............


guess i am lucky........................:heart:



i have a ex bf that i still talk to every now and then
i was with him for a yr
and i put up with alot crap of his
he was heavy alcolc and he claimed he wasent but everyone knew he was
he was good guy its just he had alot of faults
we had a small party one nite and i invited a old bf of mine that i was with when i was 16yrs old(yes were still great friends ) and i know at times i can confine in him.. we llany how he was there and the next morn he called me up to tell me that my bf and his cousin was in the bathroom doing coke> what the heck? where was i . i confronted my bf at the time and he denied it and he stated that my friend (old bf) was lying well i knew he wasent for he wouldnt lie something like that and i knew my bf (at the time) his cousin was always doing something with drugs
i never got the real truth from him. even after i broke up with him
and there was another time we had a small get together i bought a bottle of tequila which i didnt touch any for i had a glass of rum and coke, and between my bf(ex) and his old pal buddy they drank that freaken bottle with in a hour or less and he later accused me of drinking it when i didnt touch any of it... i wasent going to deal with him that nite and i called his sister to come and get him for i wasent going to be accused of something i didnt do and i didnt want him around me that nite... he kept falling into the closet and practivly falling onto his guarter.. (he was great singer) he stated i can sing better when im drunk.... NOTTTTTT!

davidben1's photo
Sun 10/24/10 11:37 AM

those that comfort because they wish for comfort themself, simply create "misery love's company", so, self will but MAGNETIZE ITSELF, TO THE SAME TYPE ENERGY, SAME TYPE PEOPLE, OVER AND OVER, until...



Maybe you should be speaking for your self ...I comfort someone to ease thier unhappiness out of compassion and caring...to cheer them up...maybe you should try it eh ohwell


TO CHEER ANOTHER "UP" BE NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME, AND SO BE NOT MY GUIDE TO WISE INSIGHT, as the only thing acceptable to ME, FOR ANOTHER, IS TOTAL QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ANOTHER, BEYOND THE MOMENT THAT "CHEERING" UP LASTS.

your self decalared remedy aid to what cause more lack of insight over the TRUE EMPOWERMENT OF ANOTHER.

so take your SELF what YOU WISH TO DOSE OUT, AND I WILL DOSE OUT WHAT I "KNOW", BY LOGIC, AND PRINCIPLE, rather that what you dose out for the sake of "emotion"...

emotion's will guide, unless their be logic to supercede the emotion, that then DECIDE THE "NEW EMOTION"...

new and BETTER EMOTION'S, ARE NOT CREATED BY COMFORTING EMOTION'S THAT HIDE HOW ANY CAN FIND PERPETUAL QUALITY OF HAPPINESS.

birds of a pain feather, do indeed flock together, and wonder why their relationships fail...

use what you BELIEVE, to care about other's, and i will use what i believe to care about other's...

your self declared wise insight, since it finds mine as wrong, eh, will but create nothing but a second in time of comfort, NOT SOLUTION TO ERASE....

did i say ANYBODY HERE WAS WRONG?

only what i see IT SHALL CREATE INTO EXISTENCE BY DOING SO...

if you don't believe me, than oh well...

lol....

do you think that your wise words, beased upon nothing but your emotion's as KING AND QUEEEN AS SUPREME, will somehow prove to me the wise insight of your "belief"?

LOL....

prove it.

why is it so?

because you "feel" it so?

what does the trail of logic prove it shall create, tomarrow, and the next day, and the next?

nothing is even capable of knowing such, UNTIL IT "LOOKS PAST IT'S OWN EMOTION'S", and FIXATING, SPEAKING, ENDORSING, THE EMBRACING OF SELF PAIN, MAKE THAT EVEN MORE HARD TO ACCOMPLISH?

if one fixate on it's own EMOTION, SHALL IT BE ABLE TO RELATE TO, BE A FRIEND TO, LOVE, CARE, FOR ANOTHER, WHOM HAS EMOTION AS WELL?

WHICH EMOTION SHALL THE SELF BE "INCLINED TO RELATE TO"?

THAT WHICH MAKE IT'S PAIN THE MOST IMPORTANT?

SO, THEN A WOMEN, WILL RELATE TO A MAN THAT CARES ABOUT HIS OWN PAIN THE MOST?

and if a MAN, STARE AT HIS OWN PAIN, IS HE A MAN?

will he see the pain OF ANOTHER, AS A WOMEN, AS IMPORTANT?

how so, if HIS OWN BE HIS GUIDE AS A PACIFER?

and you wonder why there are so many abusive, cold, calculated men in the world?

because a women believe sympathy from a man be LOVE, since such was the notion when a child, so then she looks for that IN A MAN, AND SO GETS THE MAN THAT CARES THE LEAST, INSTEAD OF THE MOST?

a caring man IS NOT A BABY, THAT SUCKS ON HIS OWN PAIN, or how could he see or care about a women's, to love her, and her to BE MORE IMPORTANT THAN HIMSELF?

seems no one has actually ever told you what love be...

to lay down ONE'S LIFE FOR ANOTHER?

HOW CAN ONE DO THIS, IF THEY ARE NOT EVEN WILLING TO LAY DOWN THEIR OWN PAIN?

hum....

i have no fear of seeing not enough into such matter's, that create either love, or caring, or true empathy, that EDUCATE TO EMPOWER, NOT TO CODDLE, to make others BELIEVE THAT THEIR NEED FOR EMOTIONAL SUPPORT AS SELF SYMPATHY BE WHAT CREATES SELF HAPPY...

in fact, there NO SELF HAPPY, THAT LAST, ACTUALLY COME UNTIL ANYTHING LAY DOWN, FORSAKE, THE WANT FOR SELF SYMPATHY...

nothing of success, in ANY VENTURE, IS BUILT ON SELF SYMPATHY, WHETHER IT BE MONEY, BUSINESS, POWER, CARS, HOUSES, LOVE, CARING....

they are all the same...

THAT WHICH WANTS SELF SYMPATHY, SHALL ONLY HEAR AND MONITOR "WHAT WORDS ARE SELF SYMPATHY, SO ACTUALLY NOT BE ABLE TO HEAR ANY CRTIQUE, OF ITSELF, AS THIS BE THE "OPPOSITE" TO THESE OF SYMPATHY?

...

sail on your direction, and i shall sail on my direction...

the two are OPPOSITE DIRECTION'S, COMPLETELY.

so of course, YOU WOULD DESPISE MINE, LOL....

your leads to more pain, MINE LEADS TO THE ABOLISHMENT OF "ALL" SELF PAIN...

ditto's










Sleepless_nights_78's photo
Sun 10/24/10 11:50 AM

those that comfort because they wish for comfort themself, simply create "misery love's company", so, self will but MAGNETIZE ITSELF, TO THE SAME TYPE ENERGY, SAME TYPE PEOPLE, OVER AND OVER, until...



Maybe you should be speaking for your self ...I comfort someone to ease thier unhappiness out of compassion and caring...to cheer them up...maybe you should try it eh ohwell

Very well said. :smile: To me it's just nice to know that some have gone through worse but still have come out of it ok and I don't mean that it's a good thing that something bad has happened to them but at least they are not to scared to share it with others. To me this is how some strong friendships are built. :smile:

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Sun 10/24/10 12:09 PM

what's the worst thing a so called friend or significant other has ever done to you?


Ex-wife
Stole over $28000
Screwed up her birthcontrol, got pregnant, stole money from me to get an abortion. Told me about it afterward. Twice.
Would sleep naked next to me but only allowed sex once a month. If I lasted longer than 5 minutes, she'd say something romantic like "Are you done yet?"
Would yell at me for masturbating in the bathroom.
Constantly accused me of cheating on her. Point of fact, I've never cheated on anyone in my life. So not my style.
After the divorce, I was bankrupted, 10 grand in debt and she sued for $3500 more or half my business, whichever I could come up w/ first.
She then killed my cat and my ferret, before I could get settled enough to get them back.

1o years later, she emailed me and wanted to be friends and did I know what really happened between us.
I said I already knew. She's a psychob*** from hell.

venusenvy's photo
Sun 10/24/10 12:14 PM
TO CHEER ANOTHER "UP" BE NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME, AND SO BE NOT MY GUIDE TO WISE INSIGHT, as the only thing acceptable to ME, FOR ANOTHER, IS TOTAL QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ANOTHER, BEYOND THE MOMENT THAT "CHEERING" UP LASTS.



K...soooo remind me NOT to cheer you up, next time life gets ya down eh ohwell

Queene123's photo
Sun 10/24/10 12:17 PM


what's the worst thing a so called friend or significant other has ever done to you?


Ex-wife
Stole over $28000
Screwed up her birthcontrol, got pregnant, stole money from me to get an abortion. Told me about it afterward. Twice.
Would sleep naked next to me but only allowed sex once a month. If I lasted longer than 5 minutes, she'd say something romantic like "Are you done yet?"
Would yell at me for masturbating in the bathroom.
Constantly accused me of cheating on her. Point of fact, I've never cheated on anyone in my life. So not my style.
After the divorce, I was bankrupted, 10 grand in debt and she sued for $3500 more or half my business, whichever I could come up w/ first.
She then killed my cat and my ferret, before I could get settled enough to get them back.

1o years later, she emailed me and wanted to be friends and did I know what really happened between us.
I said I already knew. She's a psychob*** from hell.


geeze. i can say that she is and will always be the wicked east of the west, south north.. no matter where she goes or who she ends up with she has no heart she proved that
and having her kill animal thats way heartless you should had pressed charges for animal crulity

Jess642's photo
Sun 10/24/10 12:28 PM
Edited by Jess642 on Sun 10/24/10 12:29 PM
Dooood, (DaViDbEn)...it's fullmoon....back in your cave....you're preaching from a turnip box...and we ain't interested.

This is not a freakin pity party....and your warped logic is intended to be infammatory...

we've played this game many times before...so pull your head in....watch out for the lunar-cy...noway


and go be a pain somewhere else...yeah?

tongue2

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Sun 10/24/10 12:43 PM
Edited by Arcamedees on Sun 10/24/10 12:43 PM



what's the worst thing a so called friend or significant other has ever done to you?


Ex-wife
Stole over $28000
Screwed up her birthcontrol, got pregnant, stole money from me to get an abortion. Told me about it afterward. Twice.
Would sleep naked next to me but only allowed sex once a month. If I lasted longer than 5 minutes, she'd say something romantic like "Are you done yet?"
Would yell at me for masturbating in the bathroom.
Constantly accused me of cheating on her. Point of fact, I've never cheated on anyone in my life. So not my style.
After the divorce, I was bankrupted, 10 grand in debt and she sued for $3500 more or half my business, whichever I could come up w/ first.
She then killed my cat and my ferret, before I could get settled enough to get them back.

1o years later, she emailed me and wanted to be friends and did I know what really happened between us.
I said I already knew. She's a psychob*** from hell.


geeze. i can say that she is and will always be the wicked east of the west, south north.. no matter where she goes or who she ends up with she has no heart she proved that
and having her kill animal thats way heartless you should had pressed charges for animal crulity


funny you should write that. My pet name for her became The Wicked Biotch of the West.

She actually asked me why do I hate her so much. I replied with something like, "Let me get my list. Do you want that in chronological order or in magnitude of cruelty?"
I can honestly say she's the only woman I've ever had my penis in that I hate. And will hate forever.

Sleepless_nights_78's photo
Sun 10/24/10 01:03 PM
This is in response to davidben1. I'll say that you are right about misery sometimes loves company but that's only when the person is looking for that. I used to never tell anyone about anything that I was going through and because of this I always looked like the bad person when I know that I'm not. I chose to put up with everything that I did because at those moments in life I was all for that people can change if they want to. I was asked to open up and talk about my past but I chose not to for my own reasons and it may have put up borders in many of my friendships but I know that I will get through this just like everything else that I have gotten through in life. Everyone has their own ways of dealing with traumas that they are going through in life. All I know is that I'm not the person who caused them any of the pain that they are going through. I can offer advice and even a shoulder. I might be slender but I know that I am a very strong person. I'm not out to take advantage of anyone that I meet but I got sick of all of the hidden agendas. I take up my issues with the people that have caused them, not the people that have the own demons to face. I can listen to people talk for hours about how someone is causeing them pain and that person usually figures things out on their own. It is up to us as people to figure out what we want out of life and how we are going to get out there and find it. So yeah, I'm at a point of sure I can share my past stories but it doesn't mean that I am letting them hinder what's going on with me right now. I know that I'm not the one who crapped in their cornflakes , so I really don't need them crapping in mine either. I only share what I want to and when I feel it is the right time to do it. No one should ever have to feel unsafe, no matter where they are or dress a certain way so that others won't try to speek with them. I know this from my own first hand experiences. What others have done to me has helped me realized what I will and what I won't put up with in my life. Some have had way to many second chances and it was done by their doing. There is only so much that a person can deal with and when others look at some of their actions they maybe they will see it too. I really don't scare easily, so I don't know why some people might be trying to scare me off. If someone needs time and some space then I give it to them but I will still keep in touch every now and again and besides, they can contact me too whenever they want to. I don't turn my back on my friends when I know that they can use a hand with something or just need someone to talk too. I treat them the way that I want to be treated and when some take a moment and think about it then they will realize that. Well that's my two cents once again, take it for whatever it might be worth. 
Take care,
:smile:

Jess642's photo
Sun 10/24/10 01:06 PM


Dooood, (DaViDbEn)...it's fullmoon....back in your cave....you're preaching from a turnip box...and we ain't interested.

This is not a freakin pity party....and your warped logic is intended to be infammatory...

we've played this game many times before...so pull your head in....watch out for the lunar-cy...noway


and go be a pain somewhere else...yeah?

tongue2


Ms. J, you have the uncanny ability to type what im thinkin in exactly the vernacular Im thinkin it in. cheers to you miss.



Hahahaha!!!....sometimes I think I am stating the obvious....and oftentimes, the humour, (often tongue in cheek) is lost...and I get myself a little vacation...ohwell

:wink: laugh

mixalh's photo
Sun 10/24/10 01:12 PM
oneo f the worst for me is when iw as 19....i was livin in a small town place...anyways i ended up moving to a city that was hours away for my grad year. there was a certain young lady i had my eyes on and was flirtin with and well....everyone in my friends knew i was interested and liked her lol (real high school stuff lmao). anyways i moved and before i left i asked two of my best friends to look out for her (like she need ed it but it made me feel better). i kept in touch and asked her to be my prom date.

anyways i made a surprise visit to the small town and i was the one who was surprised. i had a present n flowers for her but ...when i found her...i found her in one of my best friends arms lol.

apparently everyone else knew and thought that the "best friend" had told me lol *shakes head* heartbreaker. anyways he was tryin to talk to me...sayin....he tried to call or seriously thought about it lol.

what a messed up weekend that was lol and i laugh nmow and shake my head ...but that hurt n it hurt for a while.
glad its in tha past lol