TOP TEN REASONS TO BELIEVE IN THE CHRISTIAN FAITH



1. The credibility of Its Founder: Peter spoke for Jesus' closest followers when He said, "Lord, to Whom shall we go? Thou hast the words of eternal life. And we believe and are sure that Thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God." (John 6:68-69)



2. Reliability of Its Book: The integrity of this historical and geographical Record is supported by archeology. The Bible continues to speak not only with spiritual power but also with convincing prophetic accuracy.



3. Explanations for life: It is the Christian faith that reflects a caring attention to detail so evident in the species and ecosystems of the natural world. It is Christ Who clothed Himself in our humanity to feel what we feel and then to suffer and die in our place.



4. Its continuity with the past: The Christian faith offers continuity with our deepest ancestral roots. Those who trust Christ are accepting the same Creator and Lord worshiped by Adam, Abraham, and Solomon.



5. Its foundational claim: The first Christians were witnesses. They risked their lives to tell the world that with their own eyes they had seen an innocent Man die and then miraculously walk among them 3 days later.



6. Its power to change lives: Not only were the first disciples dramatically changed but so were their worst enemies. Paul was transformed from a killer of Christians into one of their chief advocates. (Galatians 1:11-24)



7. Its analysis of human nature: The Bible says that society's real problems are problems of the heart. In an age of information and technology, failures of character have scandalized institutions of the family, religion, and the arts.



8. Its view of human achievement: Generation after generation has hoped for the best. We have conceived technologies that will deliver us from the oppressive slavery of work. Yet we are as close as ever to what the New Testament describes as the end times. (Matthew 24:5-31)



9. Its impact on society: From rooftops to necklaces to earrings, we see the sign of the cross, bearing visible witness to Christ's death. Social relief agencies have been fueled by the direct or residual values of The Bible.



10. Its offer of salvation: No other faith offers everlasting life as a gift to those who trust the One Who has overcome death for them. No other system offers assurance of forgiveness and adoption into the family of God.

Someone is hanging some serious bait out here! OH HOW I WANT TO BITE BUT MUST RESIST URGE...

There are compelling reasons to not read too deeply into the Bible the way it is written.

The two commandments are all we need, not a bunch of rationalizing a religion.

The secret is within the word of, not the man who died.

And for God to send someone for us to kill to absolve us of our sins? I think people got this all wrong.

Putting Jesus in the position as the ONE TRUE SON OF GOD robs us all of our birthright as Children of God.

I couldn't resist!



Shame on me!

1. Lack of knowledge
2. Lack of ability to reason
3. Fear of death
4. Peer pressure
5. Cultural bias
6. Natural stupidity
7. Willingness to follow a leader
8. Unwillingness to think for one's self
9. Lazyness
10. likes being part of the "in" crowd

John 1:18

18No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
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Definition of begotten: Adj. 1. begotten - (of offspring) generated by procreation; "naturally begotten child"
biological - of parents and children; related by blood; "biological child"

You forget yes we are created by God in the long run, God created adam/eve and we procreated from thence. But Jesus is the only procreated child of our father.

sorry...couldn't resist either...

this is gonna get ugly...I can tell already...


oi vay...

And if I say I met god I would be called a liar. I do not buy this whole thing that Jesus was the only one.

If I could read your mind I would very easily be able to convince you I am the son of God. If someone was reading my mind I would see their gift but also call them on any claims to be some "Chosen" one. Usually being a "Chosen one" makes that person a target for all kinds of fear and other BS! On top of that many times they suffer terrible fates.

Its all a play on fear...

I'm not impressed by any of your so-called reasons. None of them are remotely impressive and many of them simply overstated opinions and can be applied to just about any mythologies or religions.

The following is actually a reason to reject this fable:



The story of Paul flies in the very face of what Christians hold up as their most cherished values.

1. God does not save humans, humans must turn to God.
2. God does not intervene directly with humans to change their behavior.

In the case of Paul Jesus supposedly revealed himself to Paul and told Paul that what he was doing was wrong and that he needed to change his ways.

If that were true, then Jesus should have also intervened when the Christian monks wrote the Malleus Maleficarum and told those monks that what they were doing was wrong. Jesus should have also intervened during the Crusades and informed the people in charge that what they were doing in His Name was wrong.

But clearly this folklore is nothing but lies. These stories are clearly false can are so full of contradictions and absurdities that they are truly laughable.

Let's take a look at your reasons again?



What credibility?

That's just your opinion. Have you ever met Peter? Do you even have a clue whether he actually existed, or if he's just a character in a myth? Clearly you don't know.



First off, the Bible isn't even a "book", it's just a collection of various fables put together in an attempt to try to make it look like a story, but it contradicts itself all over the place.

Moreover, Greek mythology was about the Greek Society. It is believed that a lot of events in Greek mythology actually were inspired by real events. In fact, this is probably true of all mythologies. But that doesn't verify their claims of supernatural or divine events. There is nothing in any geological record that backs up any supernatural events.



IMHO, the Veda of India speaks of much greater wisdom without all the silliness and absurdities. All mythologies speak about the human condition because they were all written by humans. No surprise there. There is nothing in the Bible that even remotely suggests that it was inspired by anyone even very intelligent, much less possessing divine wisdom.



So they stole their ideas for their doctrine from the Torah. Big deal. In fact, if you study history well you'll discover that much of the ideas for the Torah actually came from Egypt and India.



First off you can't know this. The stories can't be supported as truth. They were clearly written by biased authors. People even today risk their lives for their beliefs, many of which aren't even religious beliefs. Humans are known for being hard-headed. That doesn't suggest anything about the truth of what they claim to believe.



I already talked about Paul, but the Bible has also changed lives in very nasty and evil ways too. Let's not forget the Malleus Maleficarum.

Just because humans are easily swayed by rumors and myths is no reason to fall for that sort of thing yourself.



Again, that's not impressive. Humans write about human nature all the time. Ever read any Shakespeare? From what I hear it's far better than the Bible.



The end-time rumors are as old as Jesus. In fact, Jesus himself was actually a doomsday preacher. If you read your mythological New Testament closely you'll see that every gospels cites Jesus as having said that everything he foretold would take place before the current generation had past. Well, clearly he was wrong.

So it's done deal. Anyone who is still waiting for his prophecies to come true today is way belated.



So? We see symbols worn by all people that reflect the myths, and legends they believe in. Christianity isn't any different.



Sure they do. If you think they don't then you're just totally ignorant of other religions, and creation myths.

It's just that most of them don't make God into the demon you need to be 'saved' from.

If you people didn't try to SELL your religion so hard, you wouldn't see all these objections to your nonsense.

The Bible is utterly stupid, IMHO. It's a story of a male-chauvinistic godhead who solves all his problems with violent methods, many of which aren't any brighter than what you'd expect from a barroom drunkard.

Moreover NONE of them ever actually WORK!

This God couldn't even deliver a piece of pristine promised land. Instead, he lead his people to an occupied land and has them murder the people who were living on it.

And this is the same God who supposedly commands people, "Thou shalt not kill"?

It's the stupidest book ever written in the history of mankind.

I gotta hand you the brevity award.

The Bible is the stupidest mythology on Earth and there isn't a sane reason to believe that it's anything more than superstition.

It's a shame that the Christians feel such a need to try to sell this crap to other people. If they could just learn to keep it to themselves they'd be much happier.

They call this the "General Religion" forums, but no one ever gets to truly discuss religion in general because it's always nothing but the constant proselytizing of Christianity.

It's the most selfish religion on Earth. Save for maybe the other two Abrahamic religions.

words of wisdom indeed.

some goeth the way of truth, other's go the way of the coward.

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If that were true, then Jesus should have also intervened when the Christian monks wrote the Malleus Maleficarum and told those monks that what they were doing was wrong. Jesus should have also intervened during the Crusades and informed the people in charge that what they were doing in His Name was wrong.
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Jesus didn't intervene. Intervening would have been God taking control of the person and forcing them to do what he wished. He did no such thing, these people still nevertheless did what they did on their own free will. They chose to follow Jesus and worship God, listening and obeying.
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What credibility? huh

That's just your opinion. Have you ever met Peter? Do you even have a clue whether he actually existed, or if he's just a character in a myth? Clearly you don't know.
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What credibility do you have for anyone in the past? Abraham Lincon, Einstein, Columbus, and all the people from history. Have you ever met any one of them? Do you have a clue whether they actually existed, or if they are just characters in a myth? Clearly you don't know
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First off, the Bible isn't even a "book", it's just a collection of various fables put together in an attempt to try to make it look like a story, but it contradicts itself all over the place.
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The bible is a collection of books
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IMHO, the Veda of India speaks of much greater wisdom without all the silliness and absurdities. All mythologies speak about the human condition because they were all written by humans. No surprise there. There is nothing in the Bible that even remotely suggests that it was inspired by anyone even very intelligent, much less possessing divine wisdom.
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By reading your posts through my time on here, who are you to judge what's intelligent or not?
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So they stole their ideas for their doctrine from the Torah. Big deal. In fact, if you study history well you'll discover that much of the ideas for the Torah actually came from Egypt and India.
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The torah is the old testament. They do not see Jesus as the saviour prophesied, so therefore they do not give any credibility to the new testament.
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First off you can't know this. The stories can't be supported as truth. They were clearly written by biased authors. People even today risk their lives for their beliefs, many of which aren't even religious beliefs. Humans are known for being hard-headed. That doesn't suggest anything about the truth of what they claim to believe.
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You can not prove ANY article used for history to hold any form of proof for anything. You can not prove that we've landed on the moon without using someone else's documents. Just as Christianity has no solid evidence other then the bible. So therefore why give more credit to the things people say about landing on the moon then you give the people that wrote the bible? What's the difference? None, if you don't wish to believe it, you can just say it's hearsay and move on.
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The end-time rumors are as old as Jesus. In fact, Jesus himself was actually a doomsday preacher. If you read your mythological New Testament closely you'll see that every gospels cites Jesus as having said that everything he foretold would take place before the current generation had past. Well, clearly he was wrong.

So it's done deal. Anyone who is still waiting for his prophecies to come true today is way belated.
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No the generation has not passed. We are children of God. Thus we are the next generation. So therefore our generation has not passed.
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Sure they do. If you think they don't then you're just totally ignorant of other religions, and creation myths.

It's just that most of them don't make God into the demon you need to be 'saved' from. whoa

If you people didn't try to SELL your religion so hard, you wouldn't see all these objections to your nonsense.

The Bible is utterly stupid, IMHO. It's a story of a male-chauvinistic godhead who solves all his problems with violent methods, many of which aren't any brighter than what you'd expect from a barroom drunkard.
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Our father isn't the demon people need to be saved from. It is him that offers the salvation through Jesus Christ. We're not trying to "sell" anything.

hmmmm.... selfish you say?... hmmmm........ Yep it's a selfish belief :D that's why we are to love thy neighbour as thyself. And we are to help others when we know of them being in need. We love everyone unconditionally to what they have done in their lives. No segregation, no favouritism, no nothing along those lines. Just love them, forgive them of their trespasses against us, help them when they are in need. Yes i totally agree, very very selfish.

if your not trying to sell anything one cowboy, than why be ye still speaking, and, declaring to speak for god?

since you opened your mouth, and beseeched me to tell you any lacking in you, than you have altered reality.

now each word i say unto you, since it was per your own request, shall change your reality unto the worse, not the better, except that after worse, doth come better.

even though you did not sincerely speak your words unto me, but nonetheless, you are accountible for ALL YOUR WORDS...

for each thing you speak, create what HAPPENS TO YOU NEXT.

ye shall very soon know this.

so we shall offer prays unto the the gods of truth, to lower thee down from thy pedestal now, in your behalf.

quiet please cowboy, as we have intervention on your behalf.

dearest wisest of all, that know the total sum of all things, bring low to high this dear poor lost soul from out of the pillar's of the doomed temple of self loving, and self worshipping, whom hath lost his way whilst walking thru the woods as little red riding hood, for the wolves have filled his brain with tellings of death and destruction, and he hath bowed and payed homage to satan the father of all lie's and fear in attempts to save himself from harm, and taken the cowardly way of beliefs to justify himself to spare himself, and forsaken the loving and protection and building of his loved one's happiness in attempts to attain his own, dining as gullible on lie's that were handed to him, so even now dearest creator of all, we demand he be loosed and relieved of all such manner of evil interpretations of you, and cleansed of the dogma that rot his soul from within.

even now the leprosy of false belief shall begin to receed, and your brain begin to see anew.

so be it now.

And who are you to claim to speak for God?

You have a sick demented book that you claim is the "Word of God".

Moreover, you demand that only your interpretations and conclusions about this book are correct.

You have twisted every verse of these ancient scriptures into the most hateful statements you possibly can. And it's totally uncalled for.

You are proselytizing "Cowboyianity, that has absolutely nothing at all to do with any man (or demigod) named Jesus. You've created your own version of hate.

You don't speak for God, and you most certainly don't speak for Jesus.

You're just a hateful person on the Internet trying to use religion to support your religious bigotry. Shame on you.

This is precisely what this ancient myths of jealous God's cause. They create people like you who judge others in the name of God and condemn them for not accepting YOUR PERSONAL VIEWS of the mythological God that YOU CREATE.

You've created your own monster God.

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so we shall offer prays unto the the gods of truth, to lower thee down from thy pedestal now, in your behalf.
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I'm on no pedestal. I'm a disgusting good for nothing servant of our father. I'm only made clean through Jesus, which I'm very thankful for, without him I am filthy as rags.

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And who are you to claim to speak for God?

You have a sick demented book that you claim is the "Word of God".

Moreover, you demand that only your interpretations and conclusions about this book are correct.
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I'm not claiming to speak for God in exacts, i'm spreading the words he's already spoken. And no i do not demand that only my interpretation and conclusion about the bible is correct. I may be wrong and if i am i would only ask for someone to point it out and thus we would then discuss what is miss interpreted.
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do you not know cowboy, that to be saved, is to be saved FROM RELIGION, which in full measure, doth not allow any human to prove how anything else besides oneself can be correct.

i beseeched you in all compassion and mercy, but since your insistence that you be correct in all things of human and god, than now you must prepare yourself for abandon.

this shall convert you and free your soul from the chains of darkenss that hath hold of thee.

it wont hurt too bad.

it's a lot less than all the "hell" you endorsed for your fellow man and own loved one, so consider yourself lucky.

depart from me, for i know you not, because you hear not your fellow mans words of reason one iota.

Yes you are.

You're claiming that the Bible is the "Word of God" and you're interpreting it as such with that premise foremost in your mind.

Therefore you are claiming to speak for God in exacts.

This is the very DANGER of these kinds of "Holy Books".

They turn otherwise healthy human beings into psychotic monsters.