Then by your own words, you grew up in a highly religious state, and you continue to be led around by stupid morons, how can you face yourself???

That's another problem with religion...it's influence on education in America.



What a shame! We can do better then this...when we accept "good" over "excellence" then we are not doing enough...gee, looks like it's southern states mostly lagging behind here....and toss Texas into the unacceptable group lately in History of how our country was founded...egads!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/13/texas-textbook-massacre-u_n_498003.html




Looks like your in the Red, were in the yellow.I was not raised here. But I claim it been here long enough.
I Like how respectful you are and want to make friends. Sure can tell.

Not into Jesus Freaks, I am a Christian and proud of it. I've read many book also. I've had enough of the minority wanting to take God out of everything. You point the finger at someone assuming things yet you do the same. EGADS

LOL, where did I ever say where I grew up? But it would not have mattered where since I have never been of mind to be brainwashed and bound to an idealogy...egads...plus I have read more than ONE book in my life.

Someone having a spiritual notion of souls in afterlife are fine with me....what bothers me are the bible literalists who seem bent on destroying our world to bring that Jesus guy back. What also bothers me are religious freaks who insist on pushing their weird belief system into our government and homes.

When I see the zealots here clinging onto anything they can to deny the damage religion has done to us I feel like I am chatting to a pshycotic person...at best stubborn and prone to cognitive dissonance. It's weird to read scientific evidences that are available to everyone and hear people denying the simple facts.

Not to top it all off with politics but what about HC? The same people that cling to the bible are also clinging to the T-Baggers/GOP (who oppose it).

Simple question: Why do the devouted ones always vote GOP?

Some of us out here have had enough.

1. Only in recent years has science discovered that everything we see is composed of invisible atoms. Here, Scripture tells us that the "things which are seen were not made of things which do appear."

2. Medical science has only recently discovered that blood-clotting in a newborn reaches its peak on the eighth day, then drops. The Bible consistently says that a baby must be circumcised on the eighth day.

3. At a time when it was believed that the earth sat on a large animal or a giant (1500 B.C.), the Bible spoke of the earth’s free float in space: "He...hangs the earth upon nothing" (Job 26:7).

4. The prophet Isaiah also tells us that the earth is round: "It is he that sits upon the circle of the earth" (Isaiah 40:22). This is not a reference to a flat disk, as some skeptic maintain, but to a sphere. Secular man discovered this 2,400 years later. At a time when science believed that the earth was flat, is was the Scriptures that inspired Christopher Columbus to sail around the world (see Proverbs 3:6 footnote).

5. God told Job in 1500 B.C.: "Can you send lightnings, that they may go, and say to you, Here we are?" (Job 38:35). The Bible here is making what appears to be a scientifically ludicrous statement—that light can be sent, and then manifest itself in speech. But did you know that radio waves travel at the speed of light? This is why you can have instantaneous wireless communication with someone on the other side of the earth. Science didn’t discover this until 1864 when "British scientist James Clerk Maxwell suggested that electricity and light waves were two forms of the same thing" (Modern Century Illustrated Encyclopedia).

6. Job 38:19 asks, "Where is the way where light dwells?" Modern man has only recently discovered that light (electromagnetic radiation) has a "way," traveling at 186,000 miles per second.

7. Science has discovered that stars emit radio waves, which are received on earth as a high pitch. God mentioned this in Job 38:7: "When the morning stars sang together..."

8. "Most cosmologists (scientists who study the structures and evolution of the universe) agree that the Genesis account of creation, in imagining an initial void, may be uncannily close to the truth" (Time, Dec. 1976).

9. Solomon described a "cycle" of air currents two thousand years before scientists "discovered" them. "The wind goes toward the south, and turns about unto the north; it whirls about continually, and the wind returns again according to his circuits" (Ecclesiastes 1:6).

10. Science expresses the universe in five terms: time, space, matter, power, and motion. Genesis 1:1,2 revealed such truths to the Hebrews in 1450 B.C.: "In the beginning [time] God created [power] the heaven [space] and the earth [matter] . . . And the Spirit of God moved [motion] upon the face of the waters." The first thing God tells man is that He controls of all aspects of the universe.

11. The great biological truth concerning the importance of blood in our body’s mechanism has been fully comprehended only in recent years. Up until 120 years ago, sick people were "bled," and many died because of the practice. If you lose your blood, you lose your life. Yet Leviticus 17:11, written 3,000 years ago, declared that blood is the source of life: "For the life of the flesh is in the blood."

12. All things were made by Him (see John 1:3), including dinosaurs. Why then did the dinosaur disappear? The answer may be in Job 40:15–24. In this passage, God speaks about a great creature called "behemoth." Some commentators think this was a hippopotamus. However, the hippo’s tail isn’t like a large tree, but a small twig. Following are the characteristics of this huge animal: It was the largest of all the creatures God made; was plant-eating (herbivorous); had its strength in its hips and a tail like a large tree. It had very strong bones, lived among the trees, drank massive amounts of water, and was not disturbed by a raging river. He appears impervious to attack because his nose could pierce through snares, but Scripture says, "He that made him can make his sword to approach unto him." In other words, God caused this, the largest of all the creatures He had made, to become extinct.

13. Encyclopedia Britannica documents that in 1845, a young doctor in Vienna named Dr. Ignaz Semmelweis was horrified at the terrible death rate of women who gave birth in hospitals. As many as 30 percent died after giving birth. Semmelweis noted that doctors would examine the bodies of patients who died, then, without washing their hands, go straight to the next ward and examine expectant mothers. This was their normal practice, because the presence of microscopic diseases was unknown. Semmelweis insisted that doctors wash their hands before examinations, and the death rate immediately dropped to 2 percent. Look at the specific instructions God gave His people for when they encounter disease: "And when he that has an issue is cleansed of his issue; then he shall number to himself even days for his cleansing, and wash his clothes, and bathe his flesh in running water, and shall be clean" (Leviticus 15:13). Until recent years, doctors washed their hands in a bowl of water, leaving invisible germs on their hands. However, the Bible says specifically to wash hands under "running water."

14. Luke 17:34–36 says the Second Coming of Jesus Christ will occur while some are asleep at night and others are working at daytime activities in the field. This is a clear indication of a revolving earth, with day and night at the same time.

15. "During the devastating Black Death of the fourteenth century, patients who were sick or dead were kept in the same rooms as the rest of the family. People often wondered why the disease was affecting so many people at one time. They attributed these epidemics to ‘bad air’ or ‘evil spirits.’ However, careful attention to the medical commands of God as revealed in Leviticus would have saved untold millions of lives. Arturo Castiglione wrote about the overwhelming importance of this biblical medical law: ‘The laws against leprosyin Leviticus 13 may be regarded as the first model of sanitary legislation’ (A History of Medicine)." Grant R. Jeffery, The Signature of God With all these truths revealed in Scripture,how could a thinking person deny that the Bible is supernatural in origin? There is no other book in any of the world’s religions (Vedas, Bhagavad-Gita, Koran, Book of Mormon, etc.) that contains scientific truth. In fact, they contain statements that are clearly unscientific. Hank Hanegraaff said, "Faith in Christ is not some blind leap into a dark chasm, but a faith based on established evidence." (11:3 continued)

What a stretch. I could poke holes in this all day.
But I'll settle for 2.
An Egyptian man named Ptolemy figured out the world was round somewhere around 3000b.c. or so. That knowledge was surpressed by all all religions until Columbus.
Anyone who lived in violent and primitive times would figure out, rather quickly I would assume, that anything w/ a heartbeat would soon die from sufficient bloodloss. I think that knowledge would fall under the catagory of "DUH". Only because of ignorance and superstition would people get it into their heads that bleeding someone would cure them of anything.

You're trying to claim ALL religions surpressed that knowledge? All religions were in cahoots with one another? All religions spoke and actually discussed with one another?......... interesting, very interesting.

Funny, I didn't expect you to get that insult, so you must have grown up in a religious area.






What is really a "religious freak" is a bible-thumping, Atheist zealot who cannot see the forest trough the trees.
You have yet to show any facts that connect religion to your bigoted views, so what "facts" are people denying? The fact that people are at fault is what you deny. I've never seen a book, or a scroll, or a tablet harm anyone on it's own. By your logic, guns, knives, sticks, poisons, violent movies and books should all be abolished.






LOL, take your politics elsewhere please, no one wants your beliefs forced upon them. (hypocrite)





Simple question: Who do the zealots and extremists constantly resort to generalizing, fact-bending and name-calling? Is it because they're stupid morons???? <ef'n hint in case you aren't smart enough to get the inference.






You're right, now will you stop it please?

Lefties?

So being atheist or agnostic makes them lefties?

You do know there are religious lefties?

People don't even know what a lefty is most of the time and just sling it around in broad strokes

anyway cowboy, it was a good post. i never saw anywhere in what you wrote that said the bible was the first or only book to know this stuff, so whatever these lefties argument is, it means nothing. some people think they know everything about everything and waste to much time trying to prove it. that alone shows how much they really know.

I'm not trying to prove anything. No one can ever prove anything. Heck no one can even prove the sky is blue. It boils down to accepting the truth.

i wasn't saying you were trying to prove anything, i was talking the the other lefties...

And in response to the rest of your reply.

No one said the bible was the first or only book to know this stuff. All the bible is, is a collection of scribes in which we call books. Eg., book of job, book of matthew, ect.

In fact, there are other books. Still refered to as the holy bible, but that's why we have different interpretations eg., king james version, standard version, and many more.

The bible itself isn't what's important or what is the value. It's the knowledge inside of the bible that is the important part and the most valuable thing.