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Topic: How Do You Help An Abused Friend?
RainbowTrout's photo
Thu 09/09/10 05:31 AM
Edited by RainbowTrout on Thu 09/09/10 05:32 AM
It used to be that you couldn't tell the difference in the twins but now it is easier because the one keeps coming into work with the shiner and runny makeup from crying. We all try to talk to her but all we can get from her is, 'I know." It just makes me mad and me want to cry.

RainbowTrout's photo
Thu 09/09/10 05:40 AM
I guess what really got to me is that she is beautiful even with the shiner. She asked the other lady and me if the shiner showed up. I just couldn't help but think she won't be able to hide that one.

RainbowTrout's photo
Thu 09/09/10 05:43 AM
Edited by RainbowTrout on Thu 09/09/10 05:44 AM
I just wonder if there is special makeup for women that get beat up a lot.

Seakolony's photo
Thu 09/09/10 05:45 AM
Unfortunately, you cannot help those that won't help themselves. She has to get the resolve to leave and move on. Also, if, you try and interfere the person may be violent enough to hurt those that help her or may have threatened to. This may make her feel their remains no way out for fear of her family and/or friends being hurt in some way. Not sure of the total situation, but that is how most control relationships work. He will try and alienate her from her friends and family, leaving her feeling alone and helpless and easier to control.

no photo
Thu 09/09/10 05:47 AM


..yes there is ...it's made by smith and wesson...smokin

RainbowTrout's photo
Thu 09/09/10 05:48 AM
Thanks. I talked to her sister and she told me that she has tried to talk sense into her and she gets no where either. Last time they found her she was in the woods and we were wondering at work where she had gone.

you_dont_know_me's photo
Thu 09/09/10 05:52 AM
i have tryed to help women like that then ya end up being the bad guy because ya hurt or said something wrong to her hubby//boyfriend
if a woman wont leave that or put a stop to it there is no way you can help

Teditis's photo
Thu 09/09/10 05:54 AM
In my expeiences... there ain't much that you can do.

Call the police everytime she comes in that way... she'll hate you for it, the cops will hate you... the abuser will too.

It's never easy for anyone concerned... gl.

RainbowTrout's photo
Thu 09/09/10 05:56 AM

i have tryed to help women like that then ya end up being the bad guy because ya hurt or said something wrong to her hubby//boyfriend
if a woman wont leave that or put a stop to it there is no way you can help


I can agree with that. It just bothers me since she is such a good worker and easy to get along with. I know they both drank a lot. I am afraid anything I would probably try to say would be wrong. I just try to let her know that we care. I am sure she knows that.

newarkjw's photo
Thu 09/09/10 06:00 AM
That's a tough one. On one hand you got to do something and on the other you know it won't really make to much of a difference. I had to deal with this with an old co worker. It didn't end pretty. Tread lightly for sure........smokin

RainbowTrout's photo
Thu 09/09/10 06:04 AM

That's a tough one. On one hand you got to do something and on the other you know it won't really make to much of a difference. I had to deal with this with an old co worker. It didn't end pretty. Tread lightly for sure........smokin


Yeah. I am just wondering what her sister will think when she sees her this time. I pretty much know she will be upset with her.

Seakolony's photo
Thu 09/09/10 06:05 AM
Wait for her to be ready to open in up, or have a family get together have everyone tell how they feel and how they are worried for her. Make sure she has the phone numbers to the domestic hotline. Make sure she understands if she leaves to leave everything behind. It's safer this way if she leaves and material items are not as important as her life or of those that love her. If she leaves he may come looking for her through family friends and co-workers. Be smart about it, and do not try to hide her with family and friends as it could only make it more dangerous a situation than it already is. When dealing with a angry controlling individual in a relationship......you do not want to let on to them you know or even have hard feelings as this could make it worse for her.......she's talking.......that will piss him off more, etc. Not all are this exstreme but you never know who is and who isnt....better to play it like they are willing to go to the ultimate level as to leave no surprises.

RainbowTrout's photo
Thu 09/09/10 06:09 AM

Wait for her to be ready to open in up, or have a family get together have everyone tell how they feel and how they are worried for her. Make sure she has the phone numbers to the domestic hotline. Make sure she understands if she leaves to leave everything behind. It's safer this way if she leaves and material items are not as important as her life or of those that love her. If she leaves he may come looking for her through family friends and co-workers. Be smart about it, and do not try to hide her with family and friends as it could only make it more dangerous a situation than it already is. When dealing with a angry controlling individual in a relationship......you do not want to let on to them you know or even have hard feelings as this could make it worse for her.......she's talking.......that will piss him off more, etc. Not all are this exstreme but you never know who is and who isnt....better to play it like they are willing to go to the ultimate level as to leave no surprises.


I am sure going to pray for her, today.

tanyaann's photo
Thu 09/09/10 06:20 AM
1. Offer a listening ear if she needs it. Say 'You look a little upset, I am here if you need to talk.'

2. If she is open to talking (or even not), give her information and domestic violence hotline number. Encourage her to call to develop a safety plan.

3. Document very time she has physical signs of abuse and write down everytime she tells you about abuse. Keep these records because it will be vidal if she decides to leave.

4. Go to http://www.domesticviolence.org/ and read the information and share the information with her.

5. Be willing to hold copies of important documents such as drivers lic., birth certificates, etc.

6. If she has children, talk to her about her children and the effects of domestic violence on the children.

7. Understand that you can be supportive without getting involved and know that it is up to her to decide when to leave the relationship.



BTW, don't you work in a hospital... why don't you have one of the social workers talk to her?

RainbowTrout's photo
Thu 09/09/10 06:48 AM

1. Offer a listening ear if she needs it. Say 'You look a little upset, I am here if you need to talk.'

2. If she is open to talking (or even not), give her information and domestic violence hotline number. Encourage her to call to develop a safety plan.

3. Document very time she has physical signs of abuse and write down everytime she tells you about abuse. Keep these records because it will be vidal if she decides to leave.

4. Go to http://www.domesticviolence.org/ and read the information and share the information with her.

5. Be willing to hold copies of important documents such as drivers lic., birth certificates, etc.

6. If she has children, talk to her about her children and the effects of domestic violence on the children.

7. Understand that you can be supportive without getting involved and know that it is up to her to decide when to leave the relationship.



BTW, don't you work in a hospital... why don't you have one of the social workers talk to her?


Good advice. Thanks. I just didn't want to get personally involved and say something dumb like if you ever get tired of being abused I am available. I know that has got to be the most stupidest thing to say since i find her personally attractive.

no photo
Thu 09/09/10 07:13 AM
The 'short-form' answer is ... NO.

If you insert yourself into a co-dependency / 'needy' / 'whatever' issue, you're the only one gonna lose. THEY'll be perfectly fine, 'cuz no matter how they treat each other, it's what they want. Try to separate 'em and you become the 'bad guy'.

Accept the fact that people make stupid choices all the time. You - and anyone else - are incapable of 'saving them from themselves or their choices. Life is not about that 'reward and punishment' thing - it's about 'choice and consequence'.

Let 'em enjoy each other in 'their own special way' and ignore it.

Loy822's photo
Thu 09/09/10 07:14 AM
This is just observation, I used to volunteer at a woman's shelter: It is often a self image issue. People either feel that abuse (especially in the form of jealousy) means love, or that because they are who they are they deserve punishment. To keep letting them know that you are there (as a friend) when and if they decide to make a break can help build them up. Also, exploring their options - giving up home is shattering to some people.

Riding_Dubz's photo
Thu 09/09/10 08:23 AM
maybe she likes ruff sex surprised

Punch me in the facescared scared

RainbowTrout's photo
Thu 09/09/10 02:04 PM

The 'short-form' answer is ... NO.

If you insert yourself into a co-dependency / 'needy' / 'whatever' issue, you're the only one gonna lose. THEY'll be perfectly fine, 'cuz no matter how they treat each other, it's what they want. Try to separate 'em and you become the 'bad guy'.

Accept the fact that people make stupid choices all the time. You - and anyone else - are incapable of 'saving them from themselves or their choices. Life is not about that 'reward and punishment' thing - it's about 'choice and consequence'.

Let 'em enjoy each other in 'their own special way' and ignore it.



I know you are right. I offered help before. I can't really tell anything her sister hasn't told her before. I told her that we have AA and NA meetings in town and would love her to come. But I am too close to the problem. I am not sure why I feel that abused women seem attractive to me. It isn't logical to sound reasoning. It is like I want to help but can't help. Yeah. I never have successfully been a bad guy that way. I am sure I have been a bad guy in other ways. Thanks.

RainbowTrout's photo
Thu 09/09/10 02:12 PM

This is just observation, I used to volunteer at a woman's shelter: It is often a self image issue. People either feel that abuse (especially in the form of jealousy) means love, or that because they are who they are they deserve punishment. To keep letting them know that you are there (as a friend) when and if they decide to make a break can help build them up. Also, exploring their options - giving up home is shattering to some people.


I agree. The abused woman when she came in had tried to stop her crying before she got there. She was worried about what she looked like she was trying to be protective of her abuser. She wanted to know if the shiner was noticeable or not. I mean how could you not notice it was all I could think. Shiners are different than hickeys I would think. I can't help but think it isn't some animal like thing. I know bears slap each other and sharks leave scars on their mate.

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