From the American Family Association: (an anti-American, anti-Constitution, anti-science, (anti-sanity) group representing the lowest of lows in American Chrisianity) The AFA are no less a HATE GROUP.

Freedom of religion as long as it's "us"...these people..lol. I am not sure which are worse, the Christian extremists or the Muslim extremists, both should be ashamed of themselves...this religion inspired paranoia must be causing brain damage...sure hurts mine.

http://action.afa.net/Blogs/BlogPost.aspx?id=2147497353

No more mosques, period

"Permits should not be granted to build even one more mosque in the United States of America, let alone the monstrosity planned for Ground Zero. This is for one simple reason: each Islamic mosque is dedicated to the overthrow of the American government.

Each one is a potential jihadist recruitment and training center, and determined to implement the “Grand Jihad” of which Andy McCarthy has written.

Here is the strategy, in their own words, in the words of “An Explanatory Memorandum” circulated by the Muslim Brotherhood in 1991 which outlines “the General Strategic Goal” for the Islamic movement “in North America.”

Read it and shudder:

Muslims “must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and ‘sabotaging’ its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions...It is a Muslim’s destiny to perform Jihad and work wherever he is and wherever he lands until the final hour comes, and there is no escape from that destiny...” (emphasis mine)

Because of this subversive ideology, Muslims cannot claim religious freedom protections under the First Amendment. They are currently using First Amendment freedoms to make plans to destroy the First Amendment altogether. There is no such thing as freedom of religion in Islam, and it is sheer and utter folly for Americans to delude themselves into thinking otherwise.

Ask the Hutaree Christian militia how much good it did them to plaster Bible verses all over their website while plotting attacks against government officials. They are currently pondering the limits of the First Amendment, as they should, from the inside of a jail cell. The First Amendment cannot be used as a cloak for subversive activity."

Perhaps that's what happens when your belief consumes your own ability to control your own life - you just tend to assume control of other's lives instead.

http://www.afa.net/

just another blind religious faction. thats all religions want is control

Christian militia Is that the people feeding the homeless,sending doctors to third world countries,and preaching love your neighbor and pray for your enemy?


I think Islam is nothing but a bunch of crazed lunatics,blood thirsty on Christian and Jewish blood.I am not going to support anything they are doing but I think banning them is a stupid idea just like banning the KKK is a stupid idea.If you ban them because you think they are offensive then you can start banning everything else also.Rap concerts,comedians who say offensive words,reality and talk shows,the list goes on and on.

You don't like control of the people?The last thing in the world you should ask for is the Government to start banning people because of what they say.I'm sure Atheist banning religion would not go over so well with the few Atheist we have in Government and they would ban you from speaking against religion.

Careful what you wish for.You may just get it.

i agree with you, muslims are extremists. but we can't deny them the same rights you have. i wish they would leave, but they won't
all i can say is i am ready when they start. locked and loaded, just waiting on the season to open officially.

When you have a bible that says killing innocents is justified everyone should have a problem with that.I have heard "Islam is a peaceful religion".That is BS.There are no peaceful muslims.There are just muslims waiting for the right moment to kill all the unbelievers.They all believe in the same God and they all read the same bible.I don't trust any of them no matter what they say.


Unlike Christianity Islam is a religion of control because if you are born to muslim parents you do not have the choice to choose your own religion.You are going to be a muslim.Once a muslim you must stay a muslim.Changing religions is punishable by death.

Wow, another bunch of ignoramuses who doesn't know the difference between a mosque and a community center!

Who cares what it is called.It is going to be full of muslims run by some nut job who wants sharia law in America.

For your info...there is going to be a small mosque built into this community center.


http://www.newsweek.com/blogs/the-gaggle/2010/08/03/mosque-near-ground-zero-gets-green-light.html

The proposed $100 million center, complete with a mosque, a 500-seat auditorium, and a swimming pool, has bitterly divided Americans, including lawmakers, local shopkeepers, and 9/11 victims' groups. Even in liberal, diverse New York, those supporting the building of the center on freedom of religion grounds faced a tough sell: 52 percent of New Yorkers opposed construction, with only 31 percent in favor, according to a Quinnipiac poll last month. National polls have placed opposition even higher (although gauging opinion on this issue has its methodological challenges).

jesus wept,,,,


it is sad to read of christians with that attitude of others,,,,I am glad that in my forty years I have not come across such bigotry in my church or my church family

Americans need to wake up and oppose these dirty Muslim SOB's on every front.
Their whole ideology is to kill, kill, kill...simply because of a difference of beliefs.

Sorry, but thats not a religion at all.

Americans need to oppose them religiously, economically, socially, and physically. We need to spit in their faces, the way they do to us.
We need to oppose every aspect of their existence on this earth, and strive to eliminate them from it.

I agree with that to a degree. But not as far as spitting in their faces. That's like hating them enough to be just like them. We are to be the bigger man if you may use that expression here. We aren't to judge others. We are all equal and all sinners in this world. There is only on sin greater then any, and that is denying the Lord Thy God. ALL other sins are equal and forgivable.

I think we need to just outlaw 'organized' religions altogether.

People should be free to believe however they like on a personal level, but let's not have any more organized religions that preach to the masses that one religion is closer to the 'word of God' than another.

No more proselytizing, and no more 'religious organizations' involved with politics.

If individuals what to vote their personal beliefs so be it. But it should be outlawed that they preach their personal beliefs to others in the form of an organized religion or by claiming that "God supports their agenda, or that they are supposedly supporting God's agenda".

Instead of they want to have a political rally just do on pure principle of their own personal opinions and views and don't make any religious claims beyond that.

Religions are clearly a source of hostility and war mongering. History has shown us the truth of this. Even the attacks on 9/11 were religiously motivation without question.

Religion is clearly a source of hostility and hate. And now just look at what's happening, the atheists are caught up in a war between Christians and Muslims, and every time the Atheists speak out against religions the religious people say, "Why should you care about religion it clearly has nothing to do with you!"

How ignorant is that?

Atheists are supposed to just sit by and watch the Christians and Muslims use their diverse opinions about the "SAME GOD" to blow each other up right along with all the atheists who are innocently standing on the sidelines and supposed to remain silent?

Those arrogant Christians and Muslims are going to destroy the entire human race in the name of their single confused God.

These religions are a prime example of why religions that are based on a jealous God are extremely dangerous and unhealthy. The Christians and Muslims are born of the same religion! The both supposedly worship the same God, yet they have come to hate each others guts and have absolutely no respect for any 'outsiders' who aren't part of their religious hate-wars.

it's disgusting. Truly disgusting.

Religions that are based on a jealous God who hates heathens should be banned as "demon worship". That would eliminate Christianity and Islam from the face of the planet.

I think some Jews could potentially slip by proclaiming that they ultimately view God pantheistically, but they'd have to give up on claiming that the Ten Commandments came from God then.

I'm not sure what the Jews could get away with to be honest. But those Christians and Muslims both need to get their heads out their hateful dogmas and start realizing that they are living on a planet with REAL PEOPLE!

Atheists, Wiccans, Buddhists, and many other loving spiritual people who do not worship a hateful jealous judgmental Zeus-like Godhead are having their lives totally destroyed by the hateful arrogant Christians and Muslims.

This crap has to STOP!

These Christians and Muslims who use God as an excuse to hate each other and the rest of the world just has to STOP.

Something needs to be done about these horrible hateful religions. Before the innocent and loving atheists, Wiccans, Buddhists and others are hurt in the hateful crossfire between those sick Abrahamic religions.

There's got to be some way to stop the hate that goes on in the name of God.

Christians are especially guilty for spreading hatred in the name of Jesus. What a horrible example they display in the name of Jesus.

It's just shame beyond shame.

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These religions are a prime example of why religions that are based on a jealous God are extremely dangerous and unhealthy. The Christians and Muslims are born of the same religion! The both supposedly worship the same God, yet they have come to hate each others guts and have absolutely no respect for any 'outsiders' who aren't part of their religious hate-wars.
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Christianity and Muslims are ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ALIKE my friend. Heck muslims are the ones running planes into trade centers. This is totally and completely opposite of the Christian faith. They ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH EACH OTHER. And the war in the middle east right now has NOTHING to do with religion. This is ALL over freaking oil, money, and greed. Nothing to do with any belief in God.

Bullpucky, while oil may have been the goal the MO was using religious people to attain that goal. Just like Hitler (Who was a devout Christian BTW) who used people's religious leanings to gain power to war...just like the Dippic did to get elected then in his own words said: "This is a crusade".

Yeah, keep revising history to avoid responsibility. The "war on terror" qualifies as yet another war of relgion because Christians supported it...blindly.

And when there's proof that OBL (representing Islam) committed these crimes then you may have somewhat a point...the fact is that OBL is NOT WANTED for 9-11...just like religion, the 9-11 Commission's report is yet another fairytale.

Like being conned to death?...then keep voting your religion.

All these are PEOPLE'S actions. They have NOTHING to do with the religion and or is supported by the Christian faith in ANYWAY. The bible does NOT teach us to act like what you have put up there. These are individuals acting on their own, in NO way does God support what they have done.

this is false and dangerous logic,, all Gods creations have more in common than they have different, although their actions and beliefs might run a gammit of ranges

the Quran and the Bible have NUMEROUS similarities, and people will continue to allow culture to affect how they are interpreted,,

Yes of course all religions will have "similarities". But what it all boils down to is what makes them both completely different. Heck just the bottom line of the Muslims and the reason they were alright with doing the suicide planes is they will get 72 virgins and ever lasting life. This is absolutely and completely totally different then Christianity. With Christianity you get favor with God and eternal life by doing loving things.......... doing God's will and following the law. By treating one another like we should, with respect and love. Heck killing people is AGAINST God's will, and even deeper then that, suicide is a straight ticket to the middle of no where.

be cautious, we study our own book but take the word of media and western cultures to understand others


The Qur’an and valid authentic Hadiths are very clear about what happens to anyone who commits suicide. According to Hadiths:

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Committing Suicide is a Major Sin:

Bukhari Volume 2, Book 23, Number 445:

Narrated Jundab the Prophet said, “A man was inflicted with wounds and he committed suicide, and so Allah said: My slave has caused death on himself hurriedly, so I forbid Paradise for him.”

Bukhari Volume 8, Book 73, Number 73:

Narrated Thabit bin Ad-Dahhak: ”And if somebody commits suicide with anything in this world, he will be tortured with that very thing on the Day of Resurrection.

....it is the INTERVENTION OF CULTURE, which picks and chooses how to interpret any religious writing,,,,,the same distortions have been made of the Qu ran as have been made of the Bible

think about those who claim christianity is about violence because of SOME of the biblical passages, and be careful not to do the same thing with the religious books of others,,,,

just my humble advice and my opinion,,,,,be blessed

Suicide and what they did on 911 are two different things by the muslim belief.

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But the Hamas spokesman correctly uses the word martyr (shahid) and not suicide bomber, since those who blow themselves up almost daily in Israel and those who died on September 11 were dying in the noblest of all causes, Jihad, which is an incumbent religious duty, established in the Koran and in the Traditions as a divine institution, and enjoined for the purpose of advancing Islam. While suicide is forbidden, martyrdom is everywhere praised, welcomed, and urged: "By the Being in Whose Hand is my life, I love that I should be killed in the way of Allah; then I should be brought back to life and be killed again in His way..."; "The Prophet said, 'Nobody who enters Paradise will ever like to return to this world even if he were offered everything, except the martyr who will desire to return to this world and be killed 10 times for the sake of the great honour that has been bestowed upon him'." [Sahih Muslim, chapters 781, 782, The Merit of Jihad and the Merit of Martyrdom.]
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I think this is also a false interpretation,, but the debate will never end,, people will believe what they believe

is this any different than what the bible teaches about people being killed in Gods name, would that mean Christianity condones killing of ONESELF for God? I just dont see the huge difference in anything but the interpretation of it...