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Topic: illegal immigration
mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Wed 09/01/10 08:28 PM
Oh lord lol... another reason to LOCK the borders... why don't you boluntier to help? We do. By paying our taxes. And come to think of it...why haven't you? Why haven't you spoke up in defense of your country? actually, he is... just not our country... hi again Indianwoman

IndianWoman Joined Mon 01/26/09 Posts: 104	Wed 09/01/10 08:47 PM
Oh lord lol... another reason to LOCK the borders... why don't you boluntier to help? We do. By paying our taxes. And come to think of it...why haven't you? Why haven't you spoke up in defense of your country? actually, he is... just not our country... hi again Indianwoman Hi darlin...!

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Wed 09/01/10 08:52 PM
glad to see you agian... hope you doing ok...

IndianWoman Joined Mon 01/26/09 Posts: 104	Wed 09/01/10 09:06 PM
You know hatred has too much control when people will agree to abuse other humans in the name of right and just. It isn't hatred or discrimination when we get our stomach full of watching illegal immigrants getting better treatment and more respect than the people who were born here and raised here. And more to the point, the people who have become American citizens. They should be even more upset with the current status. And quite frankly, if you are a working adult, why are you not tired of it also? And getting back to the language issue...aren't you just a wee bit tired of having to chose between your native tongue and something that is FORCED on you in YOUR country? Hatred and discrimination, please.. sick and tired is more like it.

d24 Joined Thu 09/20/07 Posts: 2560	Wed 09/01/10 09:08 PM
You know hatred has too much control when people will agree to abuse other humans in the name of right and just. It isn't hatred or discrimination when we get our stomach full of watching illegal immigrants getting better treatment and more respect than the people who were born here and raised here. And more to the point, the people who have become American citizens. They should be even more upset with the current status. And quite frankly, if you are a working adult, why are you not tired of it also? And getting back to the language issue...aren't you just a wee bit tired of having to chose between your native tongue and something that is FORCED on you in YOUR country? Hatred and discrimination, please.. sick and tired is more like it. 100% Truth

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Thu 09/02/10 02:04 AM Edited by msharmony on Thu 09/02/10 02:05 AM
sure it does. it's the masses of the religious right saying all the racist and bigoted things toward illegal immigrantion. Sorry my dear, but please don't cloud the water further with religion. It isn't racist or bigoted when we get our stomach full of watching illegal immigrants getting unemployment, welfare, stiffing the hospitals and healthcare facilities when they have their children in the US. And guess what? They do NOT contribute to repay it! Darlin, if you work, you too should be infuriated by the abuse of the system that is occurring. If the illegals were sent back...over 2 million dollars would be saved. And I still say I shouldn't have to chose between english and mexican when I call a business. this is for the people that THINK they know what they are talking about , to claim unemployment you need a social security # so there for illegals can claim unemployment ,now people think that the country would save money if they were not here , well how about if i tell you that they pay taxes like anybody else, but the difference between a citizen and an illegal its that the legal can claim their taxes at the end of the year but the taxes that the illegal paid never comes back to their pockets , so you think the country would save if theres no illegals? Please stay up on the posts, there sweetie. Number one...they have children here...we have to pay. For the child in school, then in college. They are taking the very benefits from our children. We have to fight and scrap for every dime to help our children. They get it thrown at them... And they don't pay income taxes...how could they if they don't have a ss # to begin with (some actually have FAKES <gasps>)? (Most are paid under the table in cash...where do they claim that on their taxes) So they don't contribute...they suck it right out of the till and don't repay a dime. And stiffing the hospitals, health care systems...she gets prego in Mexico...gets in the country...has the child here...in an American hospital...gets the same care as a LEGAL immigrant who pays. I do not nor have I ever claimed responsibility for another woman getting prego and me having to pay for the child. I take care of my child...my responsibility. actually, they do pay income taxes,, thats where the COMPANIES hiring illegals come in, they have a payroll, usually done automatically and income tax is automatically deducted,,, day service workers who are picked up by individuals , of course, are less likely to pay

TonkaTruck3 Joined Fri 02/12/10 Posts: 852	Thu 09/02/10 02:54 AM
They abuse the system more than they help it.

IndianWoman Joined Mon 01/26/09 Posts: 104	Thu 09/02/10 05:29 AM
sure it does. it's the masses of the religious right saying all the racist and bigoted things toward illegal immigrantion. Sorry my dear, but please don't cloud the water further with religion. It isn't racist or bigoted when we get our stomach full of watching illegal immigrants getting unemployment, welfare, stiffing the hospitals and healthcare facilities when they have their children in the US. And guess what? They do NOT contribute to repay it! Darlin, if you work, you too should be infuriated by the abuse of the system that is occurring. If the illegals were sent back...over 2 million dollars would be saved. And I still say I shouldn't have to chose between english and mexican when I call a business. this is for the people that THINK they know what they are talking about , to claim unemployment you need a social security # so there for illegals can claim unemployment ,now people think that the country would save money if they were not here , well how about if i tell you that they pay taxes like anybody else, but the difference between a citizen and an illegal its that the legal can claim their taxes at the end of the year but the taxes that the illegal paid never comes back to their pockets , so you think the country would save if theres no illegals? Please stay up on the posts, there sweetie. Number one...they have children here...we have to pay. For the child in school, then in college. They are taking the very benefits from our children. We have to fight and scrap for every dime to help our children. They get it thrown at them... And they don't pay income taxes...how could they if they don't have a ss # to begin with (some actually have FAKES <gasps>)? (Most are paid under the table in cash...where do they claim that on their taxes) So they don't contribute...they suck it right out of the till and don't repay a dime. And stiffing the hospitals, health care systems...she gets prego in Mexico...gets in the country...has the child here...in an American hospital...gets the same care as a LEGAL immigrant who pays. I do not nor have I ever claimed responsibility for another woman getting prego and me having to pay for the child. I take care of my child...my responsibility. actually, they do pay income taxes,, thats where the COMPANIES hiring illegals come in, they have a payroll, usually done automatically and income tax is automatically deducted,,, day service workers who are picked up by individuals , of course, are less likely to pay They pay income tax how? They don't have a ss#, if they do it is fake. And the individuals? How are they picking them up and paying them? No...it's back to the small business again.

IndianWoman Joined Mon 01/26/09 Posts: 104	Thu 09/02/10 05:31 AM
They abuse the system more than they help it. Thank you.

elgrande Joined Fri 04/03/09 Posts: 115	Thu 09/02/10 09:26 AM
You know hatred has too much control when people will agree to abuse other humans in the name of right and just. It isn't hatred or discrimination when we get our stomach full of watching illegal immigrants getting better treatment and more respect than the people who were born here and raised here. And more to the point, the people who have become American citizens. They should be even more upset with the current status. And quite frankly, if you are a working adult, why are you not tired of it also? And getting back to the language issue...aren't you just a wee bit tired of having to chose between your native tongue and something that is FORCED on you in YOUR country? Hatred and discrimination, please.. sick and tired is more like it. that's because they work harder and are beter thenb most ,

elgrande Joined Fri 04/03/09 Posts: 115	Thu 09/02/10 09:33 AM
They abuse the system more than they help it. Thank you. I'm apache and I can comprehand how some that are natives of this country can be actualy talking crap about the real people of this continent, I would hurt my self before I talk crap about this good people

willing2 Joined Sun 06/08/08 Posts: 20221	Thu 09/02/10 09:59 AM
Name one country that doesn't regulate foreign migration, please.

pmarco41 Joined Wed 04/30/08 Posts: 2163	Thu 09/02/10 10:01 AM
... And getting back to the language issue...aren't you just a wee bit tired of having to chose between your native tongue and something that is FORCED on you in YOUR country? Hatred and discrimination, please.. sick and tired is more like it. I find your comment incredibly ironic....

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Thu 09/02/10 10:09 AM
You know hatred has too much control when people will agree to abuse other humans in the name of right and just. It isn't hatred or discrimination when we get our stomach full of watching illegal immigrants getting better treatment and more respect than the people who were born here and raised here. And more to the point, the people who have become American citizens. They should be even more upset with the current status. And quite frankly, if you are a working adult, why are you not tired of it also? And getting back to the language issue...aren't you just a wee bit tired of having to chose between your native tongue and something that is FORCED on you in YOUR country? Hatred and discrimination, please.. sick and tired is more like it. that's because they work harder and are beter thenb most , you left out one key word there... cheaper

Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Thu 09/02/10 11:31 AM
Considering that they can't get help from the government and they pay taxes here, they actually help our economy. My concern is that our borders should be secure, which Obama is doing more than any other president did in that area, also a people who are not here legally are not safe from being taken advantage of by our bad people here. So it would be better to secure the border and legalize those that are here that are not major criminals. Those that are major criminals need to be sent home after they pay their debt to us. And no, I am not talking about their legality here as a crime so do not even go there.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Thu 09/02/10 01:05 PM
sure it does. it's the masses of the religious right saying all the racist and bigoted things toward illegal immigrantion. Sorry my dear, but please don't cloud the water further with religion. It isn't racist or bigoted when we get our stomach full of watching illegal immigrants getting unemployment, welfare, stiffing the hospitals and healthcare facilities when they have their children in the US. And guess what? They do NOT contribute to repay it! Darlin, if you work, you too should be infuriated by the abuse of the system that is occurring. If the illegals were sent back...over 2 million dollars would be saved. And I still say I shouldn't have to chose between english and mexican when I call a business. this is for the people that THINK they know what they are talking about , to claim unemployment you need a social security # so there for illegals can claim unemployment ,now people think that the country would save money if they were not here , well how about if i tell you that they pay taxes like anybody else, but the difference between a citizen and an illegal its that the legal can claim their taxes at the end of the year but the taxes that the illegal paid never comes back to their pockets , so you think the country would save if theres no illegals? Please stay up on the posts, there sweetie. Number one...they have children here...we have to pay. For the child in school, then in college. They are taking the very benefits from our children. We have to fight and scrap for every dime to help our children. They get it thrown at them... And they don't pay income taxes...how could they if they don't have a ss # to begin with (some actually have FAKES <gasps>)? (Most are paid under the table in cash...where do they claim that on their taxes) So they don't contribute...they suck it right out of the till and don't repay a dime. And stiffing the hospitals, health care systems...she gets prego in Mexico...gets in the country...has the child here...in an American hospital...gets the same care as a LEGAL immigrant who pays. I do not nor have I ever claimed responsibility for another woman getting prego and me having to pay for the child. I take care of my child...my responsibility. actually, they do pay income taxes,, thats where the COMPANIES hiring illegals come in, they have a payroll, usually done automatically and income tax is automatically deducted,,, day service workers who are picked up by individuals , of course, are less likely to pay They pay income tax how? They don't have a ss#, if they do it is fake. And the individuals? How are they picking them up and paying them? No...it's back to the small business again. not sure where you reside, but here in vegas, you can pick up workers at just about any major home improvement store or gardening store,,,,,you pay them in cash this is more on how illegal immigrants pay income tax http://www.taxfoundation.org/blog/show/1424.html

IndianWoman Joined Mon 01/26/09 Posts: 104	Thu 09/02/10 01:09 PM
You know hatred has too much control when people will agree to abuse other humans in the name of right and just. It isn't hatred or discrimination when we get our stomach full of watching illegal immigrants getting better treatment and more respect than the people who were born here and raised here. And more to the point, the people who have become American citizens. They should be even more upset with the current status. And quite frankly, if you are a working adult, why are you not tired of it also? And getting back to the language issue...aren't you just a wee bit tired of having to chose between your native tongue and something that is FORCED on you in YOUR country? Hatred and discrimination, please.. sick and tired is more like it. that's because they work harder and are beter thenb most , And how did you arrive at this statement? Please tell me that you've worked side by side with them? No? Worked a ranch with them? Branding cattle? No? Than most .... finish the statement...Please...I need more ammo.

IndianWoman Joined Mon 01/26/09 Posts: 104	Thu 09/02/10 01:18 PM
They abuse the system more than they help it. Thank you. I'm apache and I can comprehand how some that are natives of this country can be actualy talking crap about the real people of this continent, I would hurt my self before I talk crap about this good people I've asked you this before but obviously you've failed once again... I'm am a Native woman... I live on the tribal lands. I earn my living here...in Oklahoma...(Home of the Redman). And talking crap? Excuse me? Did you even BOTHER to read my opening pet rant? NO?! Please do. We are sick of it...and the added insult of the REFUSAL to speak english instead of mexican...YES I said mexican and will not change it. It is MEXICAN...not Spanish. Spanish is a "romance" language, where as mexican is a mix of Native tongues and the slang that was brought over on the spanish galleons. So before you are so ready to slit every Americans hamstrings in favor of some one who SNEAKS. Be sure you are in the correct country for your views. Because here sweetie...we speak AMERICAN...if you don't like it...there's the damn boarder and don't let it hit you where the good lord split cha. If fact I betcha I can get you a free ride down there.

IndianWoman Joined Mon 01/26/09 Posts: 104	Thu 09/02/10 01:19 PM
... And getting back to the language issue...aren't you just a wee bit tired of having to chose between your native tongue and something that is FORCED on you in YOUR country? Hatred and discrimination, please.. sick and tired is more like it. I find your comment incredibly ironic.... Ironic how? I thought I had been very clear on my views on this issue.

IndianWoman Joined Mon 01/26/09 Posts: 104	Thu 09/02/10 01:24 PM
Considering that they can't get help from the government and they pay taxes here, they actually help our economy. My concern is that our borders should be secure, which Obama is doing more than any other president did in that area, also a people who are not here legally are not safe from being taken advantage of by our bad people here. So it would be better to secure the border and legalize those that are here that are not major criminals. Those that are major criminals need to be sent home after they pay their debt to us. And no, I am not talking about their legality here as a crime so do not even go there. They pay income tax how? They don't have a ss#, if they do it is fake. And the individuals? How are they picking them up and paying them? No...it's back to the small business again. Lets not even bring up the routes that are opened up by illegals coming into the country to drug runners and cartels. Major Criminals...Would you like the minor criminal to stay? stay where in our over crowded prison system...or on the unemployment line? what is your line to cross? Mine is where they are flooding into the country... And you were saying they do help the economy ... How? I missed that part.