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Topic: illegal immigration
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Sun 08/08/10 11:11 AM

With out settlers we would not know this world as we do.


Im sure the Amerindians are saying the same thing...

d24's photo
Sun 08/08/10 11:15 AM


With out settlers we would not know this world as we do.


Im sure the Amerindians are saying the same thing...
Yeah we would still be riding horses Native Americans were here before they called It America!

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Sun 08/08/10 11:17 AM



With out settlers we would not know this world as we do.


Im sure the Amerindians are saying the same thing...
Yeah we would still be riding horses Native Americans were here before they called It America!


what

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Sun 08/08/10 11:18 AM
why do people assume that progress only comes from ARIANS..when Cortez invaded Mexico he found a very well developed nation..who knows what advancements natives would have made if they hadnt been enslaved by the Spaniards...??

d24's photo
Sun 08/08/10 11:18 AM
Native Tounge? What are you getting at?

mightymoe's photo
Sun 08/08/10 11:21 AM








(White people) They were not sneaking into the land. We fought for what was OURS.

Lol Funny guy

The only people that arent immigrants are native americans and guess what bunches of southern natives are now "mexicans".
So if ya wanna get technical theyre coming onto land that was STOLEN from them by means of broken treaties underhanded use of biological weapons (small pox) and All out genocide against women and children..
Basically ethnic cleansing just like hitler but most people dont back him up . but maybe you do

I am an American and am proud to be but NEVER ignore or forget the past. we have grown into a pretty honorable nation but we have made mistakes erradication of natives and importation and enslavement of africans.if we forget this we wont learn from it and become the great shining nation that can stand as an example to the world..

We live in a World society now nationalism and Blind ignorant "Patriotism" spouting Best country in the world b.s. only hold us back from learning from what some other countries excell at. Damm were good but not the BEST at everything.


i'm not an immigrant i was born here. whatever my relatives did 300 years has no impact on life now. if someone was born here, it's their country too. why is that a problem?


So since whatever your relatives did 300 years ago has no impact on life now, if they never met then explain to me your existence. Apparently you like to talk both sides of the fence, because in an earlier post you said territory is always fought over (quite true), but since you were born there its their country too??? Either you believe in the strongest survive, or that property rights resides with the ones born there...

what? have you been drinking? i have no idea what your trying to say here...


I have only time to inform, not teach.


yea, ok thanks anyway.. drink one for me


A genius of a rebuttal sir!whoa


did you ask me if i exsist? i think i do.
but the stronger force takes over the weaker force....
i never said the indians did not belong here, i said they were taken over.
just like if france would have won their battle here, we would be speaking french.
the winners write the history, not the losers.

the fact is, everything happened the way it did, and thats why we are at where we are at now.

if someone tries to invade now, we try to stop them... been the same way since life began.

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Sun 08/08/10 11:21 AM

Native Tounge? What are you getting at?


obviously a point you will never hit...slaphead

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Sun 08/08/10 11:23 AM

why do people assume that progress only comes from ARIANS..when Cortez invaded Mexico he found a very well developed nation..who knows what advancements natives would have made if they hadnt been enslaved by the Spaniards...??


thats my point... no one knows, because it happened the way it happened. that cannot be changed, all we can do is move forward, and make the future history.

d24's photo
Sun 08/08/10 11:25 AM
Here it goes...If someone dont like the way we the great people live...GET THE F OUT!..

d24's photo
Sun 08/08/10 11:26 AM


Native Tounge? What are you getting at?


obviously a point you will never hit...slaphead
What is Your point?

d24's photo
Sun 08/08/10 11:28 AM
The few the proud the American

Spleggie's photo
Sun 08/08/10 11:30 AM

Here it goes...If someone dont like the way we the great people live...GET THE F OUT!..


Though I am not American, I do believe your Constitution gives a person the rights of Free Speech, Thought and Expression

d24's photo
Sun 08/08/10 11:32 AM


Here it goes...If someone dont like the way we the great people live...GET THE F OUT!..


Though I am not American, I do believe your Constitution gives a person the rights of Free Speech, Thought and Expression
Well thank you

Spleggie's photo
Sun 08/08/10 11:33 AM



Here it goes...If someone dont like the way we the great people live...GET THE F OUT!..


Though I am not American, I do believe your Constitution gives a person the rights of Free Speech, Thought and Expression
Well thank you


The point being that people shouldn't have to leave if they don't like it. They have the right to voice their displeasure (hence pointing to another right, the right to vote)

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Sun 08/08/10 11:33 AM



(White people) They were not sneaking into the land. We fought for what was OURS.

Lol Funny guy


The only people that arent immigrants are native americans and guess what bunches of southern natives are now "mexicans".
So if ya wanna get technical theyre coming onto land that was STOLEN from them by means of broken treaties underhanded use of biological weapons (small pox) and All out genocide against women and children..
Basically ethnic cleansing just like hitler but most people dont back him up . but maybe you do

I am an American and am proud to be but NEVER ignore or forget the past. we have grown into a pretty honorable nation but we have made mistakes erradication of natives and importation and enslavement of africans.if we forget this we wont learn from it and become the great shining nation that can stand as an example to the world..

We live in a World society now nationalism and Blind ignorant "Patriotism" spouting Best country in the world b.s. only hold us back from learning from what some other countries excell at. Damm were good but not the BEST at everything.


i'm not an immigrant i was born here. whatever my relatives did 300 years has no impact on life now. if someone was born here, it's their country too. why is that a problem?


Are you including the 'ANCHOR BABIES' the mamacitas come across the border to drop in order to gain citizenship ... ?

mightymoe's photo
Sun 08/08/10 11:43 AM




(White people) They were not sneaking into the land. We fought for what was OURS.

Lol Funny guy


The only people that arent immigrants are native americans and guess what bunches of southern natives are now "mexicans".
So if ya wanna get technical theyre coming onto land that was STOLEN from them by means of broken treaties underhanded use of biological weapons (small pox) and All out genocide against women and children..
Basically ethnic cleansing just like hitler but most people dont back him up . but maybe you do

I am an American and am proud to be but NEVER ignore or forget the past. we have grown into a pretty honorable nation but we have made mistakes erradication of natives and importation and enslavement of africans.if we forget this we wont learn from it and become the great shining nation that can stand as an example to the world..

We live in a World society now nationalism and Blind ignorant "Patriotism" spouting Best country in the world b.s. only hold us back from learning from what some other countries excell at. Damm were good but not the BEST at everything.


i'm not an immigrant i was born here. whatever my relatives did 300 years has no impact on life now. if someone was born here, it's their country too. why is that a problem?


Are you including the 'ANCHOR BABIES' the mamacitas come across the border to drop in order to gain citizenship ... ?


i don't agree with it, but the 14 amendment says they are... so i guess they are, till that gets changed.

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Sun 08/08/10 01:49 PM



(White people) They were not sneaking into the land. We fought for what was OURS.



Really?

What made it 'ours'? What gave anyone the right to own the earth that sustains us. The First Nations populations had no sense of ownership. They lived off the land and had a respect and appreciation for the gifts of the land. They didn't own it.

They were forced off land and some white dood arbitrarily decided to lay claim to it....then decided that money could be made by stripping it of everything valuable without thought to the consequences to the planet.


I am bigger than the person living two doors down ... they have a better view of the valley ... I think I'll just go take their house and sell their crap off ... I'll just take what's rightfully mine ... using the same logic ...

huh





wrong... every nation throughout history fought to keep and take over land. name one that didn't. survival of the fittest. sorry you don't agree with it, but it is human nature to try to take what doesn't belong to them. and when they take it over, it does belong to them then. just about everything alive fights over what they think is theirs. from the smallest of insects to man, every one of them do it, over land, property, just a piece of space. everything wants to survive, and will do what it takes to do so.



I disagree ... it is learned behavior ... and comes from a mindset of lack and fear.


mightymoe's photo
Sun 08/08/10 01:52 PM




(White people) They were not sneaking into the land. We fought for what was OURS.



Really?

What made it 'ours'? What gave anyone the right to own the earth that sustains us. The First Nations populations had no sense of ownership. They lived off the land and had a respect and appreciation for the gifts of the land. They didn't own it.

They were forced off land and some white dood arbitrarily decided to lay claim to it....then decided that money could be made by stripping it of everything valuable without thought to the consequences to the planet.


I am bigger than the person living two doors down ... they have a better view of the valley ... I think I'll just go take their house and sell their crap off ... I'll just take what's rightfully mine ... using the same logic ...

huh





wrong... every nation throughout history fought to keep and take over land. name one that didn't. survival of the fittest. sorry you don't agree with it, but it is human nature to try to take what doesn't belong to them. and when they take it over, it does belong to them then. just about everything alive fights over what they think is theirs. from the smallest of insects to man, every one of them do it, over land, property, just a piece of space. everything wants to survive, and will do what it takes to do so.



I disagree ... it is learned behavior ... and comes from a mindset of lack and fear.




then how do you explain every other species on the planet doing it?
including plants?

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Sun 08/08/10 02:42 PM
Ain't no sech-a-thang as natives here.

They all migrated from somewhere.

Injuns were just here longer.

Oh! And guess what? They warred, kept slaves and concubeaners. They even chased others off lands.

Now, it's the other Americans turn.

If we want to keep what we have, we must be willing to fight to keep it.

If not, we are no better that those liberal progressives who wanna' give it all away. That is all except what they have.

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Speakin' of Mexicans. The only ones who pass here illegally are the bottom dwellers. The ones Mexico, Central or South America think are the scum of the earth.

Educated Mexicans either prefer to stay in Mexico or, Legally, get a VISA to come shop, visit or vacation.

There are others who sneak in here and because, they are too cheap to pay for an education in Mexico. Ex. The last head of MECha who was finally deported. She was getting in-state tuition. She is probably a bottom dweller now.

Gonna' be pretty funny when some of those pasty white or chocklate browns runs up on a South American gang.

All the, I's yo' frien. I been standin' up fo you's aint gonna' hep 'em one bit.

They hate ya'll to and ta' waste ya' just gives them another rung up th' respect pole.


mightymoe's photo
Sun 08/08/10 02:57 PM

Ain't no sech-a-thang as natives here.

They all migrated from somewhere.

Injuns were just here longer.

Oh! And guess what? They warred, kept slaves and concubeaners. They even chased others off lands.

Now, it's the other Americans turn.

If we want to keep what we have, we must be willing to fight to keep it.

If not, we are no better that those liberal progressives who wanna' give it all away. That is all except what they have.

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Speakin' of Mexicans. The only ones who pass here illegally are the bottom dwellers. The ones Mexico, Central or South America think are the scum of the earth.

Educated Mexicans either prefer to stay in Mexico or, Legally, get a VISA to come shop, visit or vacation.

There are others who sneak in here and because, they are too cheap to pay for an education in Mexico. Ex. The last head of MECha who was finally deported. She was getting in-state tuition. She is probably a bottom dweller now.

Gonna' be pretty funny when some of those pasty white or chocklate browns runs up on a South American gang.

All the, I's yo' frien. I been standin' up fo you's aint gonna' hep 'em one bit.

They hate ya'll to and ta' waste ya' just gives them another rung up th' respect pole.



nobody remembers that part about the inter tribe wars and such. all they wanna do blame whitey, because it's the new PC thing to say.
the dark skinned people have been doing this same thing many years before whitey. but all of it is whitey's fault. when white people say these things, it just depresses me.

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