yeah, IM mostly worried about the anti terrorist terrorists reaction to their center,,,,moreso than their center causing harm to others

Im praying for that!!

and i hope timmy comes through.

Makes two of us!

Im sure.

You got it!!

Sadly, people hold onto untrue and unjust ideals in the name of patriotism or honor.

Muslims are Americans too, they should not be treated any differently than the Christians here.

They have it made? what do you mean?

I will tell you something that scared the hell out of me. I came into contact with a young man (14 years old) in a previous school I worked in before this one, one day I had to take this young man along with others into the school's library for an ICT lesson. Half way through the lesson I noticed he was sharing a chair with another boy (both boys were called Mohammed) Mohammed No1 was born and raised in South Africa, his parents were killed in a civil war in South Africa and he was brought to the UK by his 21yr old sister who was his legal guardian.

Mohammed No2 was born and raised here in the UK. he knew no other country. I wandered over to where they were sitting (heads together sharing a single earphone) they were so engrossed in whatever they were listening to that they were not aware I was standing behind them.......... A tap on the shoulders of both boys soon brought them back (spiritually) into the classroom.

Mohammed No1 said "Miss, you need to hear this" I took the earphones and listened, I did not understand a word of what was being said, but I did recognise what was being said was in Arabic.

I unplugged the earphones and asked for an explanation. Mohammed No1 said it was an Arabic radio station, he then went into a long, excited speech about the injustice being done to Saddam Hussein by 'you British pigs'............. That was it, I took him directly to the headteacher, He and his political views were soon out of the school. I was scared, reason? This was a child who was being used by others, he (I am sure) was not sure of what "cause" he was fighting for, I am never sure who I can trust anymore!!

It's nothing compared to what the British did to the Irish!

As for the furore about the mosque, so much for the land of the free!

Trust Yourself!

associate/friend/countrymen of my enemy is my enemy and deserving of death,,,,sounds like familiar logic


from http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,137095,00.html

'In the video, bin Laden accused Bush of misleading Americans by saying the attack was carried out because Al Qaeda "hates freedom." The terrorist leader said his followers have left alone countries that do not threaten Muslims.

"We fought you because we are free ... and want to regain freedom for our nation. As you undermine our security we undermine yours," bin Laden said.

He said he was first inspired to attack the United States by the 1982 Israeli invasion of Lebanon in which towers and buildings in Beirut were destroyed in the siege of the capital.

"While I was looking at these destroyed towers in Lebanon, it sparked in my mind that the tyrant should be punished with the same and that we should destroy towers in America, so that it tastes what we taste and would be deterred from killing our children and women," he said.

"God knows that it had not occurred to our mind to attack the towers, but after our patience ran out and we saw the injustice and inflexibility of the American-Israeli alliance toward our people in Palestine and Lebanon, this came to my mind," he said.



and so it goes, everyone thinks their hatred is 'justified' or 'right' and after that comes assigning the subject of their hate to less than human status, and after that war or death,,,and the cycle continues

That is why I said I am not sure who to trust anymore. A lot of crimes have been committed in this world all in the name of religion, and it will continue as long as mankind exists.

Holy Wars Punishment

in the name of religion, or democracy, or communisim, or any number of things,,,,people think their priorities and feelings should be the priorities and feelings of everyone else and they are willing to kill to make it happen

when was the last time the british strapped a bomb onto a kids azz, and sent him into a church?...apparently, some people don't understand how sick these extremists are.

No not at all

no sicker, in my opinion, than sending kids and young people in to kill each other with rifles or bomb from a distance,,,,,its just strategically more logical because the 'enemy' death is guaranteed, instead of just having a chance you get them before they get you

Are you talking the war in Iraq?

I am talking about ANY war,,,,war is hell and why is it any sicker if my son or your son dies at 21 years old by the gunshot of someone else who is his age that has never met him,, than if he dies because he strapped on a bomb to win a war?

dead is dead, its all tragic when its the result of senseless violence