Topic: What do you think about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan? | |
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I have a copy :) I have to disagree there. It's sad that we live in an "eye for an eye" world, but my feelings are that if I am to choose between my eye, and bin ladens....I choose bin laden Ah, but how quickly you forget-the CIA CREATED Bin Laden to begin with. They even coined the term "Blowback" for instances like 9/11 when US intervention in foreign affairs goes awry and explodes in the government's faces. |
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No different the bush sr and manuelle noriega.
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I dont think letters would prevent anything. Thats like accepting a sorry note for 9/11 Do you even know what letters of Marque and Reprisal are? They're the equivalent of a declaration of war, only applied to Stateless enemies like the Taliban. I think you should stop now and actually read about this issue before debating me any further. |
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chamberlain and hitler. this doesnt justify no action. Maybe the problem lies with the people not controlling their leaders lol
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The taliban were not stateless enemies!! They controlled Afghanistan! Only now are they stateless.
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Edited by
Atlantis75
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Sun 06/13/10 04:37 PM
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Failures of learning from the past. Both are equally pointless now and are nothing but a giant burden.
So why are they keep going? Easy. The people allow it to happen. The Government has no serious opposition from the people, neither loud voices..nothing. As I noticed, most people would actually volunteer to go to the butcher shop if they would be sheep. And why are the wars? Because the elite is making a profit from it. If there wouldn't been any money to be made, these wars would have ended years ago. |
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profit? the u.s is ten trillion dollars in debt. Where are the profits?
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The taliban were not stateless enemies!! They controlled Afghanistan! Only now are they stateless. Not so. They only "controlled" Afghanistan in the way that a bully "controls" a playground-through intimidation and violence. This is why they had no elections till the US invasion. |
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Edited by
heavenlyboy34
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Sun 06/13/10 04:43 PM
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profit? the u.s is ten trillion dollars in debt. Where are the profits? Profits in this scheme go to corporate friends of the regime, and to the likes of Cheney. You've never heard of war profiteering? |
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There were no elections because the regime wouldn't allow it. Fear and wonder.... a powerful combo. And yes I've heard of war profiteering. It just doesn't exist here in Canada. And control is control. Wether the empire was forged by war or terony, the fact remains that they were in control
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There were no elections because the regime wouldn't allow it. Fear and wonder.... a powerful combo. And yes I've heard of war profiteering. It just doesn't exist here in Canada. And control is control. Wether the empire was forged by war or terony, the fact remains that they were in control This alone still doesn't justify an unconstitutional, unjust war like Iraq and Afghanistan. |
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In order tp properly answer this question, we must go back into the slavery of the Hebrews up through WWI and WWII, when the US made the decision to protect the (Hebrew/Israeli/Jewish). mainly targeted due to amassed wealth and religious persecution. That said, the US realizing were the onslaught to continue
1- The rest of the known world would not be far behind (my grandfather rushed the shores of Normandy as a Seabee) 2- A whole race would be eradicated from the earth in mass genocide 3- If we did nothing no one else could at that time including, but not limited to France, England, Germany, Switzerland, Greece....they would have continued until they created and Arian Nation....how many people in the world fit the description of an Arian Nation? This we dedicated ourselves unto...........should we now step back and let a race of people be eradicated...this is what will happen if we step away........... Agreements.........we should never take war unto another country, but protect and stand fast against these actions of others......it would be like saying all africans, hispanics. south pacific islanders should be eradicated and genocide allowed to take place... Now as a people should we make judgements as to what is right or wrong....and should we wage war upon other based on that....probably not...because then we are telling everyone how to live and as a nation of rights and freedoms probably should not do that.... Protect and not wage sounds like a better tacit to me....but then again what do we the people know or want no longer matters |
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I still havn't figured out how you can say unconstitutional...thousands died....what "constitutional" guidelines did they break against us? We live in a world where we need to look out for ourselves and our friends. And thousands of innocent western lives is enough justification for me.
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I agree with some! If we didnt take the fight to our enemies, they would have brought it to us. WW11 and 1 included. Again it's a harsh choice...us or them. rebuild our cities? or make them rebuild theirs..
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"I said war! Huh, yeah! What is it good for? A-absolutely nothing!"
Thank you, Edwin Starr. |
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There were no elections because the regime wouldn't allow it. Fear and wonder.... a powerful combo. And yes I've heard of war profiteering. It just doesn't exist here in Canada. And control is control. Wether the empire was forged by war or terony, the fact remains that they were in control If there was no war, these Canadian Corporations wouldn't make any profits and the just might pi$$ off the stock holders, don'tcha think? I just took a quick glance. However, I'm sure more Canadian Corporations make big bucks off war. Made in Canada? March 19, 2007: Many people question whether Canada is carrying its weight in the war on terrorism. These same people may want to take a closer look at some of the equipment American troops takes to war. They will find a "Made in Canada" tag on lots of stuff. Take the Stryker Armored, for example. This is the Army's most advanced armored vehicle, and it's assembled in London, Ontario by General Dynamics Land Systems-Canada (GDLS-Canada). GDLS-Canada is however, owned by the American company, General Dynamics (the sixth largest U. S defense contractor). The Army currently plans to equip 7 Stryker Brigade Combat Teams with more than 2,000 of these 19 ton vehicles in 10 different variants. If this vehicle continues to perform well in combat, it's likely that more variants and improved models will be developed, meaning Canadian production could continue for many years. The Stryker is not the first "American" armored vehicle made in Canada. The Marine Corps' own long serving LAV family of vehicles, on which the Styker is based, entered service in the early 1980's and was built by a Canadian division of General Motors (now owned by GDLS-Canada). The Marine Corps has over 700 LAVs in eight variants and they plan on keeping in service until at least 2015. It is interesting to note that the Marine LAV is itself based on the Swiss designed Piranha armored vehicle. Another piece of equipment from north of the border is the Zodiac inflatable boat used by the Marines, Navy SEALs and other Special Operation types. These boats are mainly used to clandestinely land and retrieve small raiding/reconnaissance units and board suspicious vessels. The most popular model is the Zodiac FC 470 or Combat Rubber Raiding Craft (CRRC). This 15½ foot long boat is normally powered by a 40 HP outboard engine and can transport up to 10 men or a total of 2,756 lbs. more than 80 kilometers. It's manufactured in Vancouver, British Columbia. Canadians also make something that all our troops find particularly useful, namely bullets. Due to the inability of American manufacturers to keep up with demand, the Montreal base company SNC Technologies is providing the U. S. military with several million 5.56 mm and 7.62 mm rounds per year. The 5.56 mm round is used in the M-16 rifle and the M-4 carbine, while the 7.62 mm is used by several types of medium machine guns. SNC was recently bought by General Dynamics Ordinance and Tactical Systems, yet another division of General Dynamics. Because of the global economy and multinational companies, it's not surprising that some U. S. military equipment is made wholly or in part in foreign countries (think outsourcing). These countries may or may not share our commitment to the war on terrorism, but if you question Canada's overall commitment to the war, remember that they are proving it every day on the factory floor. Of course, they are getting well paid for it.-- Tim Spencer |
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war isn't good....but sometimes...necessary
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Edited by
Atlantis75
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Sun 06/13/10 05:02 PM
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profit? the u.s is ten trillion dollars in debt. Where are the profits? Yes the "US government is in debt". That doesn't mean that others aren't making a killing off of it. Trust me on this. United States has long gone fallen victim of the corporations and special interests. It them now who are in control and they couldn't care less if the US government goes bankrupt and so will the entire country. |
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I still havn't figured out how you can say unconstitutional...thousands died....what "constitutional" guidelines did they break against us? We live in a world where we need to look out for ourselves and our friends. And thousands of innocent western lives is enough justification for me. You've got the whole situation mixed up. It's not a matter of what "they" did that is unconstitutional-it's a matter of what the Feds' response was that was unconstitutional. Article I, section 8 of the Constitution spells this out quite clearly. |
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war isn't good....but sometimes...necessary War hasn't been necessary for quite some time now. |
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