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in Texas, if it work is making something mandatory, then they have to pay you. I went through this with a dance studio. They had a mandatory meeting and didn't want it on the clock. My husband (at the time) and I took it to Texas Workforce Commission and they froze the studios accounts until we were paid for it. Thanks for the info! I'll definitely let them know that. I figured I'd call the Texas Workforce Commission in the morning to check, so I appreciate this bit of info. |
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If they aren't paying you then you can't be fired because you're not actually on the clock. They just BS you with the mandatory thing to try & get as many there as they can. It's all politics in the workplace I tell ya!!!  Yeppers! Especially corporations like to "own" their workers. I told one boss several years ago that the place where I worked wasn't my life & he had the balls to tell me it should be!! Yeah, right for $7 bucks an hour!! Told him I was sorry to disillusion him but I did have a life outside the workplace. Funny thing I think the boss sort of liked my honesty because I'd cuss him the same as anyone else!! He knew I wouldn't take his BS!!! I eventually quit that job & they even called me up asking me to come back that they hadn't even done the paperwork that I'd quit & that they'd put personal leave down for my days absent if I'd just come back!! Nada!!! Wasn't going to happen!!  They've tried that on me as well. It's going to take a whole lot more money for me to want to come in on my time off for stuff. They fired one woman because she called in to take her kid to the ER. I was appalled! |
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Edited by
Tessa02
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Wed 05/05/10 11:27 PM
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in Texas, if it work is making something mandatory, then they have to pay you. I went through this with a dance studio. They had a mandatory meeting and didn't want it on the clock. My husband (at the time) and I took it to Texas Workforce Commission and they froze the studios accounts until we were paid for it. Thanks for the info! I'll definitely let them know that. I figured I'd call the Texas Workforce Commission in the morning to check, so I appreciate this bit of info. Yeah, don't let them BS you around!! But, don't get yourself fired being a biotch like me either!! I figured if they fired me wasn't no big deal. I didn't have to work at the time. I've only been fired once & it wasn't that job either!! At one time I couldn't stay sober enough to hold down a job & got canned!! |
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in Texas, if it work is making something mandatory, then they have to pay you. I went through this with a dance studio. They had a mandatory meeting and didn't want it on the clock. My husband (at the time) and I took it to Texas Workforce Commission and they froze the studios accounts until we were paid for it. Thanks for the info! I'll definitely let them know that. I figured I'd call the Texas Workforce Commission in the morning to check, so I appreciate this bit of info. Yeah, don't let them BS you around!! But, don't get yourself fired being a biotch like me either!! I figured if they fired me wasn't no big deal. I didn't have to work at the time. I've only been fired once & it wasn't that job either!! At one time I couldn't stay sober enough to hold down a job & got canned!! That's why I've been documenting. If they feel the need to fire me, then I WILL be getting unemployment. |
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So, my understanding of mandatory is that you are required to be there, correct? Especially in the case of work. And when it's mandatory, that means they're required to pay you correct? Hell yes! That is universal in all 50 states! There is no way they can make you attend anything job related without pay including training! |
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Edited by
msharmony
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So, my understanding of mandatory is that you are required to be there, correct? Especially in the case of work. And when it's mandatory, that means they're required to pay you correct? well, times are a changing.(especially in 'at will' states) You probably should check with your local department of labor about wage and salary laws.....but there are actually conditions where they can require your time without pay,,,,depending upon exempt status of the employess, whether the company has comp time in place of overtime,,,etc,,,,,, IT varies from place to place, so I would really verify it directly with the department of labor where you are |
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I worked for a place about ten yrs ago in Colorado, 'mandatory Holiday party' I wanted to stay at office and get 4 hours of uninterrupted work done. Nope, take the day off or go to party. So I call the labor board. Guess what......
During regular office hours, and since they were paying regular time and for travel too. Labor board said they could do this. So I took that day off for about 4 yrs running. |
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Okay, that's what I thought. Damn job has a "mandatory pool party on Friday, which is my day off, and for which I've already made other plans, and I find out tonight that they aren't going to pay us to be there. |
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Do like da' monkey do.
Don't let go of the job you have until you can find another. Endure the party, when you have another job, if you have grounds, file a suit against them. |
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Can you imagine? Getting fired for not attending a "mandatory pool party"?????
 First of all...mandatory pool party? REALLY? If only that were the worst thing to deal with at a job! LOL! Sorry...not meaning to make light of your problem but that's one I've never heard before in listening to people's complaints about their jobs. |
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Can you imagine? Getting fired for not attending a "mandatory pool party"????? First of all...mandatory pool party? REALLY? If only that were the worst thing to deal with at a job! LOL! Sorry...not meaning to make light of your problem but that's one I've never heard before in listening to people's complaints about their jobs. oh, we have had mandatory recognition parties at fancy club houses where the menu was vegan,,,lol But this is an at will state where almost anything goes in employment,,, |
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Equus, I empathize with you. I used to work at a hotel, and I had those same hours; 11P-7A and sometimes later than 7AM. And dang if the hotel always had those "mandatory" company meetings in the middle of the day. Night shift employees are always considered second-class and they never make any accomodations for them. They just screw the night shift employees because everyone else works during the day. Would have been nice to have a few night meetings, but they never did. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, and they wonder why they have such a heavy turnover. You can't treat your employees like that. An unhappy employee should be a high priority with the employer. So many companies I've been with didn't put forth enough effort into morale.
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in Texas, if it work is making something mandatory, then they have to pay you. I went through this with a dance studio. They had a mandatory meeting and didn't want it on the clock. My husband (at the time) and I took it to Texas Workforce Commission and they froze the studios accounts until we were paid for it. I believe that's the case here. I always pay my employees for meetings. Hell, half the time when they come by to hang out, they start doing work on their own and I have to tell 'em to either sit down or clock in. exactly. I have worked through lunch off the clock before and was told I couldn't because by law they would have to pay me even if I "volunteer" Well, it is only fair to be paid for working. |
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If they aren't paying you then you can't be fired because you're not actually on the clock. They just BS you with the mandatory thing to try & get as many there as they can. It's all politics in the workplace I tell ya!!! Yeppers! Especially corporations like to "own" their workers. I told one boss several years ago that the place where I worked wasn't my life & he had the balls to tell me it should be!! Yeah, right for $7 bucks an hour!! Told him I was sorry to disillusion him but I did have a life outside the workplace. Funny thing I think the boss sort of liked my honesty because I'd cuss him the same as anyone else!! He knew I wouldn't take his BS!!! I eventually quit that job & they even called me up asking me to come back that they hadn't even done the paperwork that I'd quit & that they'd put personal leave down for my days absent if I'd just come back!! Nada!!! Wasn't going to happen!! They've tried that on me as well. It's going to take a whole lot more money for me to want to come in on my time off for stuff. They fired one woman because she called in to take her kid to the ER. I was appalled! to be fair, there may have been extenuating circumstances. I once fired someone because in the 3 weeks she was employed, not one time did she make it through a shift w/o having to go home early. Either for being sick or for some family "emergency". I like to think I'm a fair employer, but if I hire someone, it's to do a job. Going home early, every single day, doesn't get it done. |
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Edited by
Arcamedees
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Thu 05/06/10 11:54 AM
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So, my understanding of mandatory is that you are required to be there, correct? Especially in the case of work. And when it's mandatory, that means they're required to pay you correct? well, times are a changing.(especially in 'at will' states) You probably should check with your local department of labor about wage and salary laws.....but there are actually conditions where they can require your time without pay,,,,depending upon exempt status of the employess, whether the company has comp time in place of overtime,,,etc,,,,,, IT varies from place to place, so I would really verify it directly with the department of labor where you are *I* would never require an employee's time w/o compensation. My opinion is that any employer who would is an a-hole. |
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sounds like your not being a team player... perhaps you should just quit?...
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Can you imagine? Getting fired for not attending a "mandatory pool party"????? First of all...mandatory pool party? REALLY? If only that were the worst thing to deal with at a job! LOL! Sorry...not meaning to make light of your problem but that's one I've never heard before in listening to people's complaints about their jobs. oh, we have had mandatory recognition parties at fancy club houses where the menu was vegan,,,lol But this is an at will state where almost anything goes in employment,,, Recognition party??  sounds like something 3 yr olds would go to. Do you stand around and recognize things? "That's a squirrel. That's a table. That's a ball." "Very good. Your recognition skills are coming along nicely."
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Equus, I empathize with you. I used to work at a hotel, and I had those same hours; 11P-7A and sometimes later than 7AM. And dang if the hotel always had those "mandatory" company meetings in the middle of the day. Night shift employees are always considered second-class and they never make any accomodations for them. They just screw the night shift employees because everyone else works during the day. Would have been nice to have a few night meetings, but they never did. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, and they wonder why they have such a heavy turnover. You can't treat your employees like that. An unhappy employee should be a high priority with the employer. So many companies I've been with didn't put forth enough effort into morale. Hey, my graveyard employee gets the best bennies. Whenever a company sends us freebies, graveyard gets first picks. When the backroom gets cleaned out, graveyard can keep anything we don't need. Graveyard is the only shift that can be a few hrs late and I don't care. My graveyard person can virtually work as many or few hrs in a week as they want, so long as everything I need done gets done. And if I have to schedule a meeting, it's for Sunday night after 8:30. And still, I've had the hardest time getting a decent graveyard person. If I was a 20 something kid, I'd absolutely love that kind of job. |
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Any time a company says it is mandatory for you to be there they are required to pay you. Now if it is just a company party which is what that sounds like then they can not make you go to it..unless they are planning on paying you.
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Equus, I empathize with you. I used to work at a hotel, and I had those same hours; 11P-7A and sometimes later than 7AM. And dang if the hotel always had those "mandatory" company meetings in the middle of the day. Night shift employees are always considered second-class and they never make any accomodations for them. They just screw the night shift employees because everyone else works during the day. Would have been nice to have a few night meetings, but they never did. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, and they wonder why they have such a heavy turnover. You can't treat your employees like that. An unhappy employee should be a high priority with the employer. So many companies I've been with didn't put forth enough effort into morale. Oh yeah Cats, that's a whole other story, too! And that's exactly what happens around here as well. |
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