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Topic: Why we should ditch religion
msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Fri 07/30/10 10:53 AM
if religion works for you,,,,keep it if not,,,, dont if spanking works for you,,,use it if not,,,,,dont if tattoos turn you on,,,get some if not,,,don't just wanted to share my epiphanies for the day,,,thanx

Arcamedees Joined Wed 04/22/09 Posts: 1817	Sat 07/31/10 09:27 AM
there are differences between old and new testament,, differences which were addressed when Jesus came that is why it is important to read the bible IN CONTEXT, with an understanding of what was happening, what laws mankind was mandating, and what laws God , Jesus, and the disciples either reinforced or re evaluated. From my research, it seems that Jesus only got rid of the sacrificial laws. (i.e. The "original sin" and the other laws that had to with the "falling out") Not the other laws, like not working on the sabbath, and stoning unruly children, etc.. my readings never came across Jesus condoning the stoning of children and what I know of the Sabbath has more to do with having a day of rest than giving reverence to one weekday over another Jesus specifically says not to stone children, we are to spare the rod. People stoned children before, a hand for a hand, all that kind of stuff because we were judged for our sins here on earth. We no longer judge anyone for anything, Jesus is the judge. Next up: ANARCHY DAY!!! YEA!!

Arcamedees Joined Wed 04/22/09 Posts: 1817	Sat 07/31/10 09:37 AM
if religion works for you,,,,keep it if not,,,, dont if spanking works for you,,,use it if not,,,,,dont if tattoos turn you on,,,get some if not,,,don't just wanted to share my epiphanies for the day,,,thanx Works for me. Unfortunatly, most people for whom religion works, won't keep it, to themselves. I've never known a woman who liked to be spanked that didn't have some deep rooted psychological malfunctions. Beyond my ability to accept. Same with tatoos. wait....what're we talking about again?

ValentinaSS Joined Sun 05/23/10 Posts: 966	Sat 07/31/10 11:09 AM
When i find a religion that makes sense to me,,,then i will subscribe to it (but i`m not holding my breath).

MiddleEarthling Joined Tue 08/18/09 Posts: 1911	Sat 07/31/10 07:16 PM Edited by MiddleEarthling on Sat 07/31/10 07:20 PM
if religion works for you,,,,keep it if not,,,, dont if spanking works for you,,,use it if not,,,,,dont if tattoos turn you on,,,get some if not,,,don't just wanted to share my epiphanies for the day,,,thanx Works for me. Unfortunatly, most people for whom religion works, won't keep it, to themselves. I've never known a woman who liked to be spanked that didn't have some deep rooted psychological malfunctions. Beyond my ability to accept. Same with tatoos. wait....what're we talking about again? LOL...that's their whole problem...they've pushed their religion so far for so long it's ruined about everything it touches. Their "good" is supposed to outweigh the likes if the Hitlers and the Dippics from our history. Egads, the religion and the damage done...and is STILL being done, see here how stupid religion has made so many Americans....it's amazing we have this many dumbed down people... What do you believe evolution to be?

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sat 07/31/10 07:40 PM
if religion works for you,,,,keep it if not,,,, dont if spanking works for you,,,use it if not,,,,,dont if tattoos turn you on,,,get some if not,,,don't just wanted to share my epiphanies for the day,,,thanx Works for me. Unfortunatly, most people for whom religion works, won't keep it, to themselves. I've never known a woman who liked to be spanked that didn't have some deep rooted psychological malfunctions. Beyond my ability to accept. Same with tatoos. wait....what're we talking about again? LOL...that's their whole problem...they've pushed their religion so far for so long it's ruined about everything it touches. Their "good" is supposed to outweigh the likes if the Hitlers and the Dippics from our history. Egads, the religion and the damage done...and is STILL being done, see here how stupid religion has made so many Americans....it's amazing we have this many dumbed down people... What do you believe evolution to be? I dont think that question is specific enough,, if they had asked do you think animals have evolved, they may have gotten one answer if they asked if humans came from apes,, yet another what does or doesnt fall under the topic of 'evolution' is not clearly understood by many and then there are those who believe some types evolved and others didnt,,(kind of like those who believe there is a creator but not the biblical God)

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sat 07/31/10 07:41 PM
if religion works for you,,,,keep it if not,,,, dont if spanking works for you,,,use it if not,,,,,dont if tattoos turn you on,,,get some if not,,,don't just wanted to share my epiphanies for the day,,,thanx Works for me. Unfortunatly, most people for whom religion works, won't keep it, to themselves. I've never known a woman who liked to be spanked that didn't have some deep rooted psychological malfunctions. Beyond my ability to accept. Same with tatoos. wait....what're we talking about again? I am curious what you mean by 'most people for whom religion works, won't keep it, to themselves' what 'most' are you referring to and in what way are they not keeping it to themselves I ask because, most things people take an interest in( I would think) are the things they end up talking about and sharing, and I dont see why religion should be any different,,,,

Arcamedees Joined Wed 04/22/09 Posts: 1817	Sun 08/01/10 10:43 AM
if religion works for you,,,,keep it if not,,,, dont if spanking works for you,,,use it if not,,,,,dont if tattoos turn you on,,,get some if not,,,don't just wanted to share my epiphanies for the day,,,thanx Works for me. Unfortunatly, most people for whom religion works, won't keep it, to themselves. I've never known a woman who liked to be spanked that didn't have some deep rooted psychological malfunctions. Beyond my ability to accept. Same with tatoos. wait....what're we talking about again? LOL...that's their whole problem...they've pushed their religion so far for so long it's ruined about everything it touches. Their "good" is supposed to outweigh the likes if the Hitlers and the Dippics from our history. Egads, the religion and the damage done...and is STILL being done, see here how stupid religion has made so many Americans....it's amazing we have this many dumbed down people... What do you believe evolution to be? I dont think that question is specific enough,, if they had asked do you think animals have evolved, they may have gotten one answer if they asked if humans came from apes,, yet another what does or doesnt fall under the topic of 'evolution' is not clearly understood by many and then there are those who believe some types evolved and others didnt,,(kind of like those who believe there is a creator but not the biblical God) I think the question is quite specific enough. Either evolution works or it doesn't. If it works, it works for all life everywhere. If that is not understood by someone, they're probably not going to believe that evolution is real. If it is, they probably will believe it is real.

Arcamedees Joined Wed 04/22/09 Posts: 1817	Sun 08/01/10 11:01 AM
if religion works for you,,,,keep it if not,,,, dont if spanking works for you,,,use it if not,,,,,dont if tattoos turn you on,,,get some if not,,,don't just wanted to share my epiphanies for the day,,,thanx Works for me. Unfortunatly, most people for whom religion works, won't keep it, to themselves. I've never known a woman who liked to be spanked that didn't have some deep rooted psychological malfunctions. Beyond my ability to accept. Same with tatoos. wait....what're we talking about again? I am curious what you mean by 'most people for whom religion works, won't keep it, to themselves' what 'most' are you referring to and in what way are they not keeping it to themselves I ask because, most things people take an interest in( I would think) are the things they end up talking about and sharing, and I dont see why religion should be any different,,,, Crap. You make a good point that shows my own bias. I hate it when that happens. To be honest, I haven't actually been harrased by religious nutters in a while. I was begining to think this whole religious thing was dying out, fading away, like the huluhoop. Then came the election season. Just about every candidate said something like "Vote for me. God and I buddies and he loves me more than the other guy." Or words to that effect. I'd be much happier if candidates, at least, would keep their religiousness as a personal thing and just tell the public their position on relevant(sp?) topics.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 08/01/10 11:08 AM
if religion works for you,,,,keep it if not,,,, dont if spanking works for you,,,use it if not,,,,,dont if tattoos turn you on,,,get some if not,,,don't just wanted to share my epiphanies for the day,,,thanx Works for me. Unfortunatly, most people for whom religion works, won't keep it, to themselves. I've never known a woman who liked to be spanked that didn't have some deep rooted psychological malfunctions. Beyond my ability to accept. Same with tatoos. wait....what're we talking about again? LOL...that's their whole problem...they've pushed their religion so far for so long it's ruined about everything it touches. Their "good" is supposed to outweigh the likes if the Hitlers and the Dippics from our history. Egads, the religion and the damage done...and is STILL being done, see here how stupid religion has made so many Americans....it's amazing we have this many dumbed down people... What do you believe evolution to be? I dont think that question is specific enough,, if they had asked do you think animals have evolved, they may have gotten one answer if they asked if humans came from apes,, yet another what does or doesnt fall under the topic of 'evolution' is not clearly understood by many and then there are those who believe some types evolved and others didnt,,(kind of like those who believe there is a creator but not the biblical God) I think the question is quite specific enough. Either evolution works or it doesn't. If it works, it works for all life everywhere. If that is not understood by someone, they're probably not going to believe that evolution is real. If it is, they probably will believe it is real. not really, there is a difference in the details,,,,similar to asking if one believes in the story of Jesus birth, some parts may be reconcilable and not others the same is true of evolution, if it includes big bang, thats not truly reconcilable, if it includes a more common sense explanation of things evolving to their environment , it holds more water I believe all species evolve , in the sense that they ADAPT to survive, I dont believe that evolution to be as DRASTIC as monkeys becoming humans or amoebas turning into monkeys,,,,,

Arcamedees Joined Wed 04/22/09 Posts: 1817	Sun 08/01/10 11:53 AM
if religion works for you,,,,keep it if not,,,, dont if spanking works for you,,,use it if not,,,,,dont if tattoos turn you on,,,get some if not,,,don't just wanted to share my epiphanies for the day,,,thanx Works for me. Unfortunatly, most people for whom religion works, won't keep it, to themselves. I've never known a woman who liked to be spanked that didn't have some deep rooted psychological malfunctions. Beyond my ability to accept. Same with tatoos. wait....what're we talking about again? LOL...that's their whole problem...they've pushed their religion so far for so long it's ruined about everything it touches. Their "good" is supposed to outweigh the likes if the Hitlers and the Dippics from our history. Egads, the religion and the damage done...and is STILL being done, see here how stupid religion has made so many Americans....it's amazing we have this many dumbed down people... What do you believe evolution to be? I dont think that question is specific enough,, if they had asked do you think animals have evolved, they may have gotten one answer if they asked if humans came from apes,, yet another what does or doesnt fall under the topic of 'evolution' is not clearly understood by many and then there are those who believe some types evolved and others didnt,,(kind of like those who believe there is a creator but not the biblical God) I think the question is quite specific enough. Either evolution works or it doesn't. If it works, it works for all life everywhere. If that is not understood by someone, they're probably not going to believe that evolution is real. If it is, they probably will believe it is real. not really, there is a difference in the details,,,,similar to asking if one believes in the story of Jesus birth, some parts may be reconcilable and not others the same is true of evolution, if it includes big bang, thats not truly reconcilable, if it includes a more common sense explanation of things evolving to their environment , it holds more water I believe all species evolve , in the sense that they ADAPT to survive, I dont believe that evolution to be as DRASTIC as monkeys becoming humans or amoebas turning into monkeys,,,,, As I said, you either understand it or you don't. Obviously, you don't understand it. A 150 yrs ago or so, it was widely accepted that God made everything just the way they are. Now it is widely accepted that life adapts and changes. If one accepts that life adapts and changes, one must also accept that with enough adaptations you have a completely different species. In other words, if one accepts that MICROevolution is real, one must, or should, ask oneself how many MICROS does it take to get a MACROevolution. While it is somewhat accurate to say that amoebas turned into monkeys, although the are quite a few intervening steps inbetween, not to mention about 3 billion years, it is innaccurate to say monkeys turned into humans. Humans and monkeys shared a common ancester.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 08/01/10 12:00 PM Edited by msharmony on Sun 08/01/10 12:01 PM
if religion works for you,,,,keep it if not,,,, dont if spanking works for you,,,use it if not,,,,,dont if tattoos turn you on,,,get some if not,,,don't just wanted to share my epiphanies for the day,,,thanx Works for me. Unfortunatly, most people for whom religion works, won't keep it, to themselves. I've never known a woman who liked to be spanked that didn't have some deep rooted psychological malfunctions. Beyond my ability to accept. Same with tatoos. wait....what're we talking about again? LOL...that's their whole problem...they've pushed their religion so far for so long it's ruined about everything it touches. Their "good" is supposed to outweigh the likes if the Hitlers and the Dippics from our history. Egads, the religion and the damage done...and is STILL being done, see here how stupid religion has made so many Americans....it's amazing we have this many dumbed down people... What do you believe evolution to be? I dont think that question is specific enough,, if they had asked do you think animals have evolved, they may have gotten one answer if they asked if humans came from apes,, yet another what does or doesnt fall under the topic of 'evolution' is not clearly understood by many and then there are those who believe some types evolved and others didnt,,(kind of like those who believe there is a creator but not the biblical God) I think the question is quite specific enough. Either evolution works or it doesn't. If it works, it works for all life everywhere. If that is not understood by someone, they're probably not going to believe that evolution is real. If it is, they probably will believe it is real. not really, there is a difference in the details,,,,similar to asking if one believes in the story of Jesus birth, some parts may be reconcilable and not others the same is true of evolution, if it includes big bang, thats not truly reconcilable, if it includes a more common sense explanation of things evolving to their environment , it holds more water I believe all species evolve , in the sense that they ADAPT to survive, I dont believe that evolution to be as DRASTIC as monkeys becoming humans or amoebas turning into monkeys,,,,, As I said, you either understand it or you don't. Obviously, you don't understand it. A 150 yrs ago or so, it was widely accepted that God made everything just the way they are. Now it is widely accepted that life adapts and changes. If one accepts that life adapts and changes, one must also accept that with enough adaptations you have a completely different species. In other words, if one accepts that MICROevolution is real, one must, or should, ask oneself how many MICROS does it take to get a MACROevolution. While it is somewhat accurate to say that amoebas turned into monkeys, although the are quite a few intervening steps inbetween, not to mention about 3 billion years, it is innaccurate to say monkeys turned into humans. Humans and monkeys shared a common ancester. and THAT is why the question was too broad,, I dont think Im alone in how well I 'understand' evolution. I believe men can take flight(jump) but I dont believe they can fly(attain extended periods in the air with no mechanism). I dont believe the bible said anything specifically about the physical malibility or adaptablity of humans or animals either. Many things in life come in varying degrees and with limits. I consider evolution to be one of those things.

Arcamedees Joined Wed 04/22/09 Posts: 1817	Mon 08/02/10 09:45 AM
if religion works for you,,,,keep it if not,,,, dont if spanking works for you,,,use it if not,,,,,dont if tattoos turn you on,,,get some if not,,,don't just wanted to share my epiphanies for the day,,,thanx Works for me. Unfortunatly, most people for whom religion works, won't keep it, to themselves. I've never known a woman who liked to be spanked that didn't have some deep rooted psychological malfunctions. Beyond my ability to accept. Same with tatoos. wait....what're we talking about again? LOL...that's their whole problem...they've pushed their religion so far for so long it's ruined about everything it touches. Their "good" is supposed to outweigh the likes if the Hitlers and the Dippics from our history. Egads, the religion and the damage done...and is STILL being done, see here how stupid religion has made so many Americans....it's amazing we have this many dumbed down people... What do you believe evolution to be? I dont think that question is specific enough,, if they had asked do you think animals have evolved, they may have gotten one answer if they asked if humans came from apes,, yet another what does or doesnt fall under the topic of 'evolution' is not clearly understood by many and then there are those who believe some types evolved and others didnt,,(kind of like those who believe there is a creator but not the biblical God) I think the question is quite specific enough. Either evolution works or it doesn't. If it works, it works for all life everywhere. If that is not understood by someone, they're probably not going to believe that evolution is real. If it is, they probably will believe it is real. not really, there is a difference in the details,,,,similar to asking if one believes in the story of Jesus birth, some parts may be reconcilable and not others the same is true of evolution, if it includes big bang, thats not truly reconcilable, if it includes a more common sense explanation of things evolving to their environment , it holds more water I believe all species evolve , in the sense that they ADAPT to survive, I dont believe that evolution to be as DRASTIC as monkeys becoming humans or amoebas turning into monkeys,,,,, As I said, you either understand it or you don't. Obviously, you don't understand it. A 150 yrs ago or so, it was widely accepted that God made everything just the way they are. Now it is widely accepted that life adapts and changes. If one accepts that life adapts and changes, one must also accept that with enough adaptations you have a completely different species. In other words, if one accepts that MICROevolution is real, one must, or should, ask oneself how many MICROS does it take to get a MACROevolution. While it is somewhat accurate to say that amoebas turned into monkeys, although the are quite a few intervening steps inbetween, not to mention about 3 billion years, it is innaccurate to say monkeys turned into humans. Humans and monkeys shared a common ancester. and THAT is why the question was too broad,, I dont think Im alone in how well I 'understand' evolution. I believe men can take flight(jump) but I dont believe they can fly(attain extended periods in the air with no mechanism). I dont believe the bible said anything specifically about the physical malibility or adaptablity of humans or animals either. Many things in life come in varying degrees and with limits. I consider evolution to be one of those things. umm...WTF?

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Mon 08/02/10 11:43 AM
BROAD QUESTION: do you believe men can fly possible answers: no, man cant fly yes, man can fly for extremely brief periods under certain circumstances BROAD QUESTION: do you believe God created us in his image and exactly as we are today possible answers: no, God did not create us yes, God created us in his image and physically unchangable yes and no, God created us in his image, but not unable to be altered in the physical BROAD QUESTION: do you believe in evolution yes, I believe we started from a bang and just continued to evolve yes, I believe we all started as the same creature and evolved into many different types of creatures yes, I believe there were many creatures and we evolved from one of them yes, I believe after God created us we adapted as the environment changed in order to survive, but NO , I dont believe we evolved from some brainless caveman or primate no and yes, I dont believe we started from a mysterious bang, but I do believe we adapted to the elements as time went on the point was about the potential confusion or disagreement about what all is involved in the theory of evolution and how we might agree with some without agreeing with all...

MiddleEarthling Joined Tue 08/18/09 Posts: 1911	Mon 08/02/10 04:43 PM
if religion works for you,,,,keep it if not,,,, dont if spanking works for you,,,use it if not,,,,,dont if tattoos turn you on,,,get some if not,,,don't just wanted to share my epiphanies for the day,,,thanx Works for me. Unfortunatly, most people for whom religion works, won't keep it, to themselves. I've never known a woman who liked to be spanked that didn't have some deep rooted psychological malfunctions. Beyond my ability to accept. Same with tatoos. wait....what're we talking about again? LOL...that's their whole problem...they've pushed their religion so far for so long it's ruined about everything it touches. Their "good" is supposed to outweigh the likes if the Hitlers and the Dippics from our history. Egads, the religion and the damage done...and is STILL being done, see here how stupid religion has made so many Americans....it's amazing we have this many dumbed down people... What do you believe evolution to be? I dont think that question is specific enough,, if they had asked do you think animals have evolved, they may have gotten one answer if they asked if humans came from apes,, yet another what does or doesnt fall under the topic of 'evolution' is not clearly understood by many and then there are those who believe some types evolved and others didnt,,(kind of like those who believe there is a creator but not the biblical God) I think the question is quite specific enough. Either evolution works or it doesn't. If it works, it works for all life everywhere. If that is not understood by someone, they're probably not going to believe that evolution is real. If it is, they probably will believe it is real. not really, there is a difference in the details,,,,similar to asking if one believes in the story of Jesus birth, some parts may be reconcilable and not others the same is true of evolution, if it includes big bang, thats not truly reconcilable, if it includes a more common sense explanation of things evolving to their environment , it holds more water I believe all species evolve , in the sense that they ADAPT to survive, I dont believe that evolution to be as DRASTIC as monkeys becoming humans or amoebas turning into monkeys,,,,, As I said, you either understand it or you don't. Obviously, you don't understand it. A 150 yrs ago or so, it was widely accepted that God made everything just the way they are. Now it is widely accepted that life adapts and changes. If one accepts that life adapts and changes, one must also accept that with enough adaptations you have a completely different species. In other words, if one accepts that MICROevolution is real, one must, or should, ask oneself how many MICROS does it take to get a MACROevolution. While it is somewhat accurate to say that amoebas turned into monkeys, although the are quite a few intervening steps inbetween, not to mention about 3 billion years, it is innaccurate to say monkeys turned into humans. Humans and monkeys shared a common ancester. and THAT is why the question was too broad,, I dont think Im alone in how well I 'understand' evolution. I believe men can take flight(jump) but I dont believe they can fly(attain extended periods in the air with no mechanism). I dont believe the bible said anything specifically about the physical malibility or adaptablity of humans or animals either. Many things in life come in varying degrees and with limits. I consider evolution to be one of those things. umm...WTF? LOL, I know, if they can't accept the question they try to confuse it...lol. Meanwhile, sadly so, our kids are being raised to be stupid.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Mon 08/02/10 05:04 PM
if religion works for you,,,,keep it if not,,,, dont if spanking works for you,,,use it if not,,,,,dont if tattoos turn you on,,,get some if not,,,don't just wanted to share my epiphanies for the day,,,thanx Works for me. Unfortunatly, most people for whom religion works, won't keep it, to themselves. I've never known a woman who liked to be spanked that didn't have some deep rooted psychological malfunctions. Beyond my ability to accept. Same with tatoos. wait....what're we talking about again? LOL...that's their whole problem...they've pushed their religion so far for so long it's ruined about everything it touches. Their "good" is supposed to outweigh the likes if the Hitlers and the Dippics from our history. Egads, the religion and the damage done...and is STILL being done, see here how stupid religion has made so many Americans....it's amazing we have this many dumbed down people... What do you believe evolution to be? I dont think that question is specific enough,, if they had asked do you think animals have evolved, they may have gotten one answer if they asked if humans came from apes,, yet another what does or doesnt fall under the topic of 'evolution' is not clearly understood by many and then there are those who believe some types evolved and others didnt,,(kind of like those who believe there is a creator but not the biblical God) I think the question is quite specific enough. Either evolution works or it doesn't. If it works, it works for all life everywhere. If that is not understood by someone, they're probably not going to believe that evolution is real. If it is, they probably will believe it is real. not really, there is a difference in the details,,,,similar to asking if one believes in the story of Jesus birth, some parts may be reconcilable and not others the same is true of evolution, if it includes big bang, thats not truly reconcilable, if it includes a more common sense explanation of things evolving to their environment , it holds more water I believe all species evolve , in the sense that they ADAPT to survive, I dont believe that evolution to be as DRASTIC as monkeys becoming humans or amoebas turning into monkeys,,,,, As I said, you either understand it or you don't. Obviously, you don't understand it. A 150 yrs ago or so, it was widely accepted that God made everything just the way they are. Now it is widely accepted that life adapts and changes. If one accepts that life adapts and changes, one must also accept that with enough adaptations you have a completely different species. In other words, if one accepts that MICROevolution is real, one must, or should, ask oneself how many MICROS does it take to get a MACROevolution. While it is somewhat accurate to say that amoebas turned into monkeys, although the are quite a few intervening steps inbetween, not to mention about 3 billion years, it is innaccurate to say monkeys turned into humans. Humans and monkeys shared a common ancester. and THAT is why the question was too broad,, I dont think Im alone in how well I 'understand' evolution. I believe men can take flight(jump) but I dont believe they can fly(attain extended periods in the air with no mechanism). I dont believe the bible said anything specifically about the physical malibility or adaptablity of humans or animals either. Many things in life come in varying degrees and with limits. I consider evolution to be one of those things. umm...WTF? LOL, I know, if they can't accept the question they try to confuse it...lol. Meanwhile, sadly so, our kids are being raised to be stupid. it wasnt a matter of confusing the question or not accepting it, it was a matter of explaining why the answer might need to be asked in a more specific manner,,,for example, do you belive MAN evolved from primates, the theory of evolution is more than just ONE sentence ya know so people may only agree with parts but not the whole theory,,,

MiddleEarthling Joined Tue 08/18/09 Posts: 1911	Mon 08/02/10 07:12 PM
if religion works for you,,,,keep it if not,,,, dont if spanking works for you,,,use it if not,,,,,dont if tattoos turn you on,,,get some if not,,,don't just wanted to share my epiphanies for the day,,,thanx Works for me. Unfortunatly, most people for whom religion works, won't keep it, to themselves. I've never known a woman who liked to be spanked that didn't have some deep rooted psychological malfunctions. Beyond my ability to accept. Same with tatoos. wait....what're we talking about again? LOL...that's their whole problem...they've pushed their religion so far for so long it's ruined about everything it touches. Their "good" is supposed to outweigh the likes if the Hitlers and the Dippics from our history. Egads, the religion and the damage done...and is STILL being done, see here how stupid religion has made so many Americans....it's amazing we have this many dumbed down people... What do you believe evolution to be? I dont think that question is specific enough,, if they had asked do you think animals have evolved, they may have gotten one answer if they asked if humans came from apes,, yet another what does or doesnt fall under the topic of 'evolution' is not clearly understood by many and then there are those who believe some types evolved and others didnt,,(kind of like those who believe there is a creator but not the biblical God) I think the question is quite specific enough. Either evolution works or it doesn't. If it works, it works for all life everywhere. If that is not understood by someone, they're probably not going to believe that evolution is real. If it is, they probably will believe it is real. not really, there is a difference in the details,,,,similar to asking if one believes in the story of Jesus birth, some parts may be reconcilable and not others the same is true of evolution, if it includes big bang, thats not truly reconcilable, if it includes a more common sense explanation of things evolving to their environment , it holds more water I believe all species evolve , in the sense that they ADAPT to survive, I dont believe that evolution to be as DRASTIC as monkeys becoming humans or amoebas turning into monkeys,,,,, As I said, you either understand it or you don't. Obviously, you don't understand it. A 150 yrs ago or so, it was widely accepted that God made everything just the way they are. Now it is widely accepted that life adapts and changes. If one accepts that life adapts and changes, one must also accept that with enough adaptations you have a completely different species. In other words, if one accepts that MICROevolution is real, one must, or should, ask oneself how many MICROS does it take to get a MACROevolution. While it is somewhat accurate to say that amoebas turned into monkeys, although the are quite a few intervening steps inbetween, not to mention about 3 billion years, it is innaccurate to say monkeys turned into humans. Humans and monkeys shared a common ancester. and THAT is why the question was too broad,, I dont think Im alone in how well I 'understand' evolution. I believe men can take flight(jump) but I dont believe they can fly(attain extended periods in the air with no mechanism). I dont believe the bible said anything specifically about the physical malibility or adaptablity of humans or animals either. Many things in life come in varying degrees and with limits. I consider evolution to be one of those things. umm...WTF? Well, to some there's no difference between specific and Pacific.

Arcamedees Joined Wed 04/22/09 Posts: 1817	Wed 08/04/10 09:13 AM
BROAD QUESTION: do you believe men can fly possible answers: no, man cant fly yes, man can fly for extremely brief periods under certain circumstances BROAD QUESTION: do you believe God created us in his image and exactly as we are today possible answers: no, God did not create us yes, God created us in his image and physically unchangable yes and no, God created us in his image, but not unable to be altered in the physical BROAD QUESTION: do you believe in evolution yes, I believe we started from a bang and just continued to evolve yes, I believe we all started as the same creature and evolved into many different types of creatures yes, I believe there were many creatures and we evolved from one of them yes, I believe after God created us we adapted as the environment changed in order to survive, but NO , I dont believe we evolved from some brainless caveman or primate no and yes, I dont believe we started from a mysterious bang, but I do believe we adapted to the elements as time went on the point was about the potential confusion or disagreement about what all is involved in the theory of evolution and how we might agree with some without agreeing with all... Your analogy is inaccurate. Your first broad question. It is not a broad question if one understands the definition of "fly" as a verb. Your second broad question doesn't seem broad at all to me. Even your second and 3rd answers are essentially the same. Your 3rd broad question only requires a yes or no answer. How is that broad? Your answers are more indicative of a lack of knowledge about the subject than how broad the question is. Perhaps the answer "don't know" should be included among possible choices.

Arcamedees Joined Wed 04/22/09 Posts: 1817	Wed 08/04/10 09:15 AM
if religion works for you,,,,keep it if not,,,, dont if spanking works for you,,,use it if not,,,,,dont if tattoos turn you on,,,get some if not,,,don't just wanted to share my epiphanies for the day,,,thanx Works for me. Unfortunatly, most people for whom religion works, won't keep it, to themselves. I've never known a woman who liked to be spanked that didn't have some deep rooted psychological malfunctions. Beyond my ability to accept. Same with tatoos. wait....what're we talking about again? LOL...that's their whole problem...they've pushed their religion so far for so long it's ruined about everything it touches. Their "good" is supposed to outweigh the likes if the Hitlers and the Dippics from our history. Egads, the religion and the damage done...and is STILL being done, see here how stupid religion has made so many Americans....it's amazing we have this many dumbed down people... What do you believe evolution to be? I dont think that question is specific enough,, if they had asked do you think animals have evolved, they may have gotten one answer if they asked if humans came from apes,, yet another what does or doesnt fall under the topic of 'evolution' is not clearly understood by many and then there are those who believe some types evolved and others didnt,,(kind of like those who believe there is a creator but not the biblical God) I think the question is quite specific enough. Either evolution works or it doesn't. If it works, it works for all life everywhere. If that is not understood by someone, they're probably not going to believe that evolution is real. If it is, they probably will believe it is real. not really, there is a difference in the details,,,,similar to asking if one believes in the story of Jesus birth, some parts may be reconcilable and not others the same is true of evolution, if it includes big bang, thats not truly reconcilable, if it includes a more common sense explanation of things evolving to their environment , it holds more water I believe all species evolve , in the sense that they ADAPT to survive, I dont believe that evolution to be as DRASTIC as monkeys becoming humans or amoebas turning into monkeys,,,,, As I said, you either understand it or you don't. Obviously, you don't understand it. A 150 yrs ago or so, it was widely accepted that God made everything just the way they are. Now it is widely accepted that life adapts and changes. If one accepts that life adapts and changes, one must also accept that with enough adaptations you have a completely different species. In other words, if one accepts that MICROevolution is real, one must, or should, ask oneself how many MICROS does it take to get a MACROevolution. While it is somewhat accurate to say that amoebas turned into monkeys, although the are quite a few intervening steps inbetween, not to mention about 3 billion years, it is innaccurate to say monkeys turned into humans. Humans and monkeys shared a common ancester. and THAT is why the question was too broad,, I dont think Im alone in how well I 'understand' evolution. I believe men can take flight(jump) but I dont believe they can fly(attain extended periods in the air with no mechanism). I dont believe the bible said anything specifically about the physical malibility or adaptablity of humans or animals either. Many things in life come in varying degrees and with limits. I consider evolution to be one of those things. umm...WTF? LOL, I know, if they can't accept the question they try to confuse it...lol. Meanwhile, sadly so, our kids are being raised to be stupid. twas ever thus.

Arcamedees Joined Wed 04/22/09 Posts: 1817	Wed 08/04/10 09:19 AM
if religion works for you,,,,keep it if not,,,, dont if spanking works for you,,,use it if not,,,,,dont if tattoos turn you on,,,get some if not,,,don't just wanted to share my epiphanies for the day,,,thanx Works for me. Unfortunatly, most people for whom religion works, won't keep it, to themselves. I've never known a woman who liked to be spanked that didn't have some deep rooted psychological malfunctions. Beyond my ability to accept. Same with tatoos. wait....what're we talking about again? LOL...that's their whole problem...they've pushed their religion so far for so long it's ruined about everything it touches. Their "good" is supposed to outweigh the likes if the Hitlers and the Dippics from our history. Egads, the religion and the damage done...and is STILL being done, see here how stupid religion has made so many Americans....it's amazing we have this many dumbed down people... What do you believe evolution to be? I dont think that question is specific enough,, if they had asked do you think animals have evolved, they may have gotten one answer if they asked if humans came from apes,, yet another what does or doesnt fall under the topic of 'evolution' is not clearly understood by many and then there are those who believe some types evolved and others didnt,,(kind of like those who believe there is a creator but not the biblical God) I think the question is quite specific enough. Either evolution works or it doesn't. If it works, it works for all life everywhere. If that is not understood by someone, they're probably not going to believe that evolution is real. If it is, they probably will believe it is real. not really, there is a difference in the details,,,,similar to asking if one believes in the story of Jesus birth, some parts may be reconcilable and not others the same is true of evolution, if it includes big bang, thats not truly reconcilable, if it includes a more common sense explanation of things evolving to their environment , it holds more water I believe all species evolve , in the sense that they ADAPT to survive, I dont believe that evolution to be as DRASTIC as monkeys becoming humans or amoebas turning into monkeys,,,,, As I said, you either understand it or you don't. Obviously, you don't understand it. A 150 yrs ago or so, it was widely accepted that God made everything just the way they are. Now it is widely accepted that life adapts and changes. If one accepts that life adapts and changes, one must also accept that with enough adaptations you have a completely different species. In other words, if one accepts that MICROevolution is real, one must, or should, ask oneself how many MICROS does it take to get a MACROevolution. While it is somewhat accurate to say that amoebas turned into monkeys, although the are quite a few intervening steps inbetween, not to mention about 3 billion years, it is innaccurate to say monkeys turned into humans. Humans and monkeys shared a common ancester. and THAT is why the question was too broad,, I dont think Im alone in how well I 'understand' evolution. I believe men can take flight(jump) but I dont believe they can fly(attain extended periods in the air with no mechanism). I dont believe the bible said anything specifically about the physical malibility or adaptablity of humans or animals either. Many things in life come in varying degrees and with limits. I consider evolution to be one of those things. umm...WTF? LOL, I know, if they can't accept the question they try to confuse it...lol. Meanwhile, sadly so, our kids are being raised to be stupid. it wasnt a matter of confusing the question or not accepting it, it was a matter of explaining why the answer might need to be asked in a more specific manner,,,for example, do you belive MAN evolved from primates, the theory of evolution is more than just ONE sentence ya know so people may only agree with parts but not the whole theory,,, If they believe in parts of evolution but not all of it, they are deluding themselves. Something which humans are particularly good at doing. I've already shown how if part of it is true, all of it is true.