13 1/2 months of obama being in office.....that is WHAT.......

I do not expect billions of dollars to fall out of the sky........because with obama's deficit to date......it will take TRILLIONS of dollars to fall out of the sky.

What were you trying to communicate as I am at a total loss as to what it is you are attempting to opine...........

and where else to start a "New World Order" then the middle east,where traditions have been the same for thousands of years and also if you can spread "democracy" in a area where it was once spit on then you can do anything, like take control of the oil and brainwash civilians in believing that capitalism...ooops democracy is the way....wow what a great conspiracy that would be

What do you expect him to do in 13 and a half months? There, is that clear enough?

We were already in major debt to China when Obama took office. Trying to stop a depression involves taking desperate measures and risks. He had the best financial advisers to help with these decisions. We made it through the Big Depression and we'll make it through this recession. It takes time.

"The United World of America" wow thats kind of neat

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There ARE other countries where one could reside......I love my country and view with dismay people who mock it by making statements such as the one I just quoted.

Let me remind those posting in this thread that in other countries one could not mock one's country freely such as it can be done in the USA.......

Can we please continue on a CIVIL pattern?

some simple numbers


' Bush’s lowest annual deficit was just under $158 billion in fiscal 2002. It reached nearly $459 billion in the fiscal year ending Sept. 30, 2008, and, as we mentioned, was on track to reach $1.2 trillion by the time Obama took office.' www.factcheck.org

--ok 158 bill to 1.2 trill A NEARLY TEN FOLD DEFICIT INCREASE IN SEVEN YEARS WITH NO RECESSION, OR THREAT OF BANKING AND AUTOMITIVE INDUSTRY COlLAPSE , RIGHT?

'The simple fact is that Obama inherited a federal deficit of $1.2 trillion on the day he was sworn in last year. Barely two weeks earlier, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office issued its regular "Budget and Economic Outlook" document, stating:

CBO, Jan. 2009: The federal fiscal situation in 2009 will be dramatically worse than it was in 2008. Under the assumption that current laws and policies remain in place (that is, not accounting for any new legislation), CBO estimates that the deficit this year will total $1.2 trillion, more than two and a half times the size of last year’s' www.factcheck.org


'The long term budget picture, meanwhile, is brighter than previously thought. The total deficit for 2010-2019 is now projected to be $6.7 trillion; in August, the CBO estimated it would be $7.1 trillion. ' www.marketwatch.com


--- OK. 1.2 trill, to 7.1 trill, SLIGHTLY MORE THAN A FIVE FOLD INCREASE IN DEFICIT OVER NINE YEARS, after helping banking and automotive industry recover


I still think my vote was a good one, better than the atlernative, and I am still supporting this presidents decisions

I can truly say THIS about Mr. Obama,,,HE SAVED THIS COUNTRY FROM ANOTHER GREAT DEPRESSION,,when he was FIRST IN HIS NEW OFFICE!

NO ONE SEEMS TO REMEMBER THAT or don't WANT TO THINK OR FEEL HE DID THAT?

I WATCHED IT ALL PLAY OUT,,and if HE didn't act as fast and as MUCH monies as he did,,,WE as a Nation THEN,,,would have ALSO FELL TO BLEAK BREAKDOWN as did Wall Street..

His ACTIONS,,did NOT SAVE us in this long down fall,,,as WE will LIVE to see yet MORE loss's before we can REBUILD 8 Million JOBS again here as to all the ones WHO CLOSED OR LEFT HERE..

BUT HIS ACTIONS PRO-LONGED ALL THAT BLEAK for maybe a two year felt fall,,,as I am SURE HE is thinking we can re-do and rebound in that time period..

AND,,as WALL STREET got to GREEDY,,,the INSURANCE COMPANIES AND MEDICAL COMPANIES NEED THAT SAME FIX AND FALL to regenerate this economy to WHERE we are truly living in and with as to our recent jobs lost and their monopolizing their RATES and COSTS far exceeding their actual COSTS SPENT....
THEIR RAPING US ALL,,,and THEY don't WANT the GOVERNMENT INSIDE THEM WATCHING THAT AND MAKING CHANGES TO THEIR DAMN GREED.
EVERYTHING YOU HERE AND HAVE CAME TO BELIEVE ABOUT THEM and OUR GOVERNMENT BEING CONSIDERED GOING SOCIALIZED,,,,,
PLEASE!!!!WE HAVE BEEN MEDICAL SOCIALIZED SINCE BEFORE I WAS BORN THROUGH MEDICARE AND SOCIAL SECURITY!!!!!!!
THIS WORD,,,,,"SOCIALIZED" WAS MAGNIFIED TO YOU BY ALL STATIONS AND TALK SHOW FOLKS TO OVER DRAMATIZE THEIR WANTS AND NEEDS FOR """NOT""" WANTING TO OPEN THEIR RATES OR CHARGES TO BE SET BY OUR GOVERNMENT STANDARDS...
EVERY AMERICAN """""SHOULD"""" HAVE SOME FORM OF HEALTH-CARE PROVIDED BY OUR GOV. AND THROUGH US PEOPLE, AND PERSONALLY I WOULD GIVE TODAY 20 PERCENT OF MY WAGES TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN IF THAT WAS ASKED OR NEEDED OF ME TO DO..

Dear Lady 'lindyy',

With all due respect, I find it hard to believe that you started this thread «... hoping for intelligent, honest opinion and debate...»

You accuse people for allegedly not giving «... intelligent, honest, CIVIL response ...... with correct and current information and facts being cited ...... with nothing substantial to contribute...».

Again, without meaning to show any form of disrespect to you personally Lady 'linddy', I found your opening statement totally lacking on each of the following counts: «... intelligent, honest opinion, with correct information and facts...», which you allegedly seemed to 'hope for', and accused OTHERS of failing to live up to.

An opportunistic 'false' statement (unsubstantiated) is hardly the path to an intelligent and HONEST discussion or debate.

Your OP:
«... Is obama's 'change' and 'hope' what the American people thought it was?
I sincerely do not think so...........I do not think the people who did vote for the individual expected to have a deficit in the trillions of dollars the first year he was in office...»

The facts unfortunately do not agree with your statement Lady 'lindyy'. The deficit WAS 1,3USD (trillion) on the day that President Obama took office. Be my guest and check the following link:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aei7Fn0ISrwo&refer=news
... one of several links you could have visited, instead of erring further.

What's more, 'fearandloathing's most pertinent and 'intelligent' question might have allowed you to verify your sources, and rectify your error:

His question:
«... Err...wasn't the deficit there when he arrived?...»

Your answer:
«... Errrrrrr not in the trillions that obama has created! ...»

You chose to reiterate the false information, in spite of an intelligent question which could have corrected the situation.

And yet again, you come back with a variation on the same unfounded, unsubstantiated and flat out false statement on the deficit:

«... obama has done nothing but increase the deficit to an ungodly amount...»

Your 'editorial' statements should have been addressed to President Bush, while HE was in office, since it is HIS deficit that we are all 'stuck' with at this point. As I recall though, you didn't speak out back then!!!

In closing, many here 'hope for' intelligent, honest and facts backed opinions and statements, potentially leading to stimulating debates.

Now, let the teachers apply their own lessons.

Well, Mr. V....for someone who does not reside in the USA....that is all that needs to be said........

BUT, is it not a little demeaning on YOUR part to ".....With all due respect, I find it hard to believe that you started this thread «... hoping for intelligent, honest opinion and debate...»

What a clever way to demean someone's intellect......just what are you insinuating Mr. V?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iIQLKzH_u8

not too demeaning to imply that anyone not in the USA has a less valid opinion ,,,,

ahh, the hypocrisy and blindness continues..

My post was directed to Rkisit's humor.