it wasn't about God changing plans...it was about Jesus's teachings about love, "free Will" and turning the other cheek...will Jesus follow his own teachings and turn the other cheek in the battle at armageddon...yes or no and why

Revelations isn't a description it a prophecy ...a description is human perception pertaining to a person place or thing ...a prophecy is an unstoppable event deemed to take place because of supernatural or divine intervention

do today's Christians no longer use the term prophecy because they now realize that it takes away "Free Will"

prophecy does not take away free will lol. I've showed you this before. Just as i profesise that you'll post something in this forum after i make this post. Again oh wow i'm taking away your free will. Prophecy is only a forseen action.

Cowboy....a prophecy is handed down "from or by" a supernatural entity about an event that will take place due to divine intervention.......is this what you are claiming that took place with you

also while you are trying to figure if God sent an angel down to you with a prophecy, you still didn't answer the questions


1.since you claim that prophecy can be changed and that Jesus has "Free Will" and taught to turn the other cheek ...then will Jesus use his "Free Will" to turn the other cheek in the battle of armageddon ....yes or no and why?

2.would you consider someone or something that intentionly cause a generation of innocent babies to suffer by drowning them good or evil

C'mon people, enough with the Kool-Aid.

ALL PROPHESIES ARE MAN THOUGHT!!!

The serious danger being that if enough Jews, Christians and Muslims at any one time were to share the insane story of 'Armageddon', with no sane souls calling them on their delusion, then the idiotic fable could become IN PART, A 'MAN MADE SELF-FULFILLING PROPHESY'!

In part,
... because the American Military backed Israel in its conflict with Palestine and the rest of the Arab world, taking place over this insane area of the globe, where people NEED to believe someone is '...coming to take them away... away!!!...', could very well turn into a 'MAN-MADE' destruction derby of apocalyptic proportions, given the depths of man's stupidity,

... but prophesy only realized in part, 'cause they're not coming '...to take you away!!! ...away!!!...'. Not Jesus, not Mohammed, and not Yashua!!!

We all need to cut back on the religious kool-aid and rhetoric.

Jews and Arabs must start now, to forgive each other, while christians must seriously get some help in dealing with this millenium old superiority complex, which only serves making enemies with 2/3 of the planet's inhabitants.

Co-existence, while giving the illusion of maintaining intact our different 'exclusive' fables, simply is no longer feasible.

Co-existence, in a context of scarcity of habitable space, diminishing essential resources (water), and gross inequality of financial means, becomes a clear form of cruel assimilation and/or exclusion of others.

Truly 'COMING TOGETHER' on this earth, through our own courage and wisdom, is the only possible metaphoric heaven!!!

If some here are true believers in christ, it is high time to start practicing his supreme teaching : 'love thy neighbor as you would yourself', PERIOD!!! Do not add anything qualifier, conditions, or other forms of back doors!!! That is one piece of wisdom which transcends all dogma.

What you hold as good for YOU, you must stop defending it just for yourself.
If you consider it good and ESSENTIAL for you, you MUST DEFEND IT FOR ALL!!!

No man made, self-fulfilling 'ARMAGEDDON' prophesy NEEDED!!!

If a State is good for the Jewish people,
... a State is just as good for the Palestinian people.

'... It shouldn't be a 'Jewish State', but 'a State for Jewish people'...', said Einstein before the creation of Israel.

And if that particular 'LAND' is good as a STATE for Jewish people, then, it is also good as a STATE for Palestinians people,

Brings us to the ONE land, which must become the ONE STATE FOR ALL, where they will live as ONE citizenry, and,

... SHOW THE WAY OF 'COMING TOGETHER' TO THE REST OF US!!!

That 'coming together' christ inspired teaching, is the only 'heaven' metaphor we should all believe in, care for, and act upon!!!

Anything else is contributing directly to this idiotic 'ARMAGEDDON' fable.

taking away free will with devine intrvention would involve God literally MAKING someone do something or not do something. God will not do this.

I've already answered your questions but i'll answere them again

1. No Jesus will not turn the other cheek at armegeddon because that is what armegeddon is, the detruction of all evil.

2. Again, i do not understand your question....... who's drowning? Armegedon is not going to be a flood.

"a prophecy is handed down "from or by" a supernatural entity about an event that will take place due to divine intervention"

No that is not a prophecy. A prophecy is a forseen thing. Like what fortune tells claim to be able to do. Has nothing to do with the one making the prophecy bring this profecy to trueth.

I will pray for you :(

Can't you tell that some will not give up their brainwashing no matter what?

Your prophet of choice, Jesus, told you to 'love your neighbor as you would yourself'.

He never said you were to spread idiotic tales, nor were you to spread YOUR personal delusional inventions and beliefs onto others, much less act as though you were 'HIM'.
And given your profoundly closed attitude towards anything which might disagree or contradict your dogma, I urge you not to pray for me. It is most insincere of you, and that insincerity only laces your words with condescendence and hypocrisy.

Cowboy.....if armageddon is the destruction of all evil...then explain why Satan will still be in existence during the 1000 year rule of Jesus ...

are you sure you even read the bible?

Cowboy....the question was never about armageddon...it been about newborns and the great flood for the last couple of pages ....but anyway what's to understand it's a simple question about morality

2.would you consider someone or something that intentionly cause a generation of innocent babies to suffer by drowning them to be good or evil ...just pick either good or evil

small and insignificant price for being given the gift of Heaven and all it's glory.

Yes of course Satan will be here doing armageddon. The destruction won't just happen over night, will take the entire armageddon time to destroy Satan and all his minions.

idiotic tales? hmmmmm, strange that i have can and will find the information out of the bible to support whatever at the time is being discussed. So now you're saying the bible is idiotic, may God have mercy on you.

still putting words under peoples fingers?

how does one turn a cheek in a battle? seems an oxymoron to me,,,anyhow I believe the promise will be kept to establish his Kingdom, whatever that entails

is it possible to write a prophecy without describing the events? I just chose to use description because I was avoiding these cirular debates about semantics,,,,any time we read a book, the writer has to DESCRIBE things,, thats hard to debate really

Cowboy ....I didn't ask you about the horrors those like hitler would have to commit to receive a gift in Heaven...the question had nothing to do with Heaven, as I said it was a question about your morality ....

I asked you if you would consider someone of something that cause innocent newborn babies to suffer by drowning them was good or evil

the question provides no way for you to hide behind the bible or anyone else...so you have to think for yourself on this one

all you have to do is choose either good or evil ..please choose only one of them

Cowboy....armageddon is not the battle with Satan...it is the battle with the antichrist ...

I'm going to start a bible study class for Christians ..I highly recommend that you enroll

if them fingers had some church attending tithes under them, then those fingers wouldn't have room under them for words