let me rephrase to be more clear, as was implied by the words potential and might,,,,in reference to suffering

death is just where paradise might start,, a potential promotion from life

death is the end of our suffering here on earth,,,,death can be potentially a promotion or a demotion, a consequence of how we live(good or bad).

amen to the clearification.

Life is nothing but a test to decide how we'll spend our true existance.

well Cowboy...that's not exactly true because the newborn babies didn't have time enough to live life or make choices before God deem them to be tainted and drown them

since God is supposedly beyond time then what would age matter to him, God looks for souls and to him a tainted baby would be no more but a tainted soul

and because God deem these babies to be tainted is the reason why they could be tossed into the lake of fire and suffer for eternality

and that is the point that you and MsHarmony will find ways to justify as being good what the human race would consider to be extreme ultimate horror

and that is why the question becomes...why would people follow and worship and spread the word of such an entity ...is it out of fear or because the God fullfill their need for violence and blood lust

to put it in simplier terms....it falls into the category of being attracted to a bad boy or someone with thug mentality

Lol funches, you try very hard with this. For one, God doesn't kill anyone on earth,

Babies that die at birth do not go to hell. They have not reached the age of accountability. Only those who sin on purpose, deny the lord, and multiple other reasons of such will burn in the lake of fire.

How many has God killed? (Complete list and estimated total)

But that didn't include some of God's most impressive slaughters. How many did God drown in the flood or burn to death in Sodom and Gomorrah? How many first-born Egyptians did he kill? The Bible doesn't say, so there's no way to know for sure. But it's possible to provide rough estimates in order to get a grand total, and that's what I'm attempting here. (New total: 33 million.)

SAB, Brick Testament Number Killed Cummulative Total
God drowns everyone on earth (except Noah and his family) Genesis 7:23, 30,000,000?

God rains fire and brimstone on Sodom and Gomorrah, killing everyone. Gen.19:24, BT 1000? 30,001,000

Lot's wife for looking back Gen.19:26, BT 1

Er who was "wicked in the sight of the Lord" Gen.38:7, 1 Chr.2:3, BT 1 30,001,002

Onan for spilling his seed Gen.38:10, BT 1 30,001,003

7th Egyptian Plague: Hail Exodus 9:25, BT 30,000?

God kills every Egyptian firstborn child. Ex.12:29-30, BT 500,000?

God drowns Egyptian army Ex.14:28, BT 1000? 30,532,003

God and Moses help Joshua kill the Amalekites Ex.17:13, BT 1000? 30,533,003

For dancing naked around Aaron's golden calf Ex.32:27-28, 35, BT 3000 (so far the total of people killed is 30,536,003)

Aaron's sons for offering strange fire before the Lord Lev.10:1-3, Num.3:4, 26:61, BT 2 30,536,005

A blasphemer Lev.24:10-23, BT 1 30,536,006

God burned to death an unknown number for complaining Numbers 11:1, BT 100? 30,536,106

God sent "a very great plague" for complaining about the food. Num.11:33, BT 10,000? 30,546,106

God killed those who murmured with a plague. Num.14:35-36, BT 100? 30,546,206

A man who picked up sticks on the Sabbath Num.15:32-36, BT 1 30,546,207

Korah, Dathan, and Abiram (and their families) Num.16:27, BT 12+ 30,546,219

Burned to death for offering incense Num.16:35, 26:10, BT 250 30,546,469

For complaining Num.16:49, BT 14,700 30,561,169

Massacre of the Aradites Num.21:1-3, BT 3000? 30,564,169

For complaining about the lack of food and water, God sent fiery serpents to bite the people, and many of them died. Num.21:6, BT 100? 30,564,269

God delivers the Bashanites into Moses' hands and Moses kills everyone "until there was none left alive." Num.21:34-35, BT 1000? 30,565,269

For "committing whoredom with the daughters of Moab" Num.25:9, BT 24,000 30,589,269

Midianite massacre (32,000 virgins were kept alive) Num.31:1-35, BT 90,000+ 30,679,269

The slaughter of the Anakim, the childen of Esau, and the Horim
Deuteronomy 2:21-22 5000? 30,684,269

God hardened the king of Heshbon's heart so that the Israelites could massacre his people. (included several cities) Dt.2:33-34, BT 3000? 30,687,269

God delievered the king of Bashan so that the Israelites could massacre his people. Dt.3:3-6 60,000? 30,747,269

Massacre of Jericho Joshua 6:21, BT 1000? 30,748,269

God tells Joshua to stone to death Achan (and his family) for taking the accursed thing. Joshua 7:10-12, 24-26, BT 5+ 30,748,274

God tells Joshua to attack Ai and do what he did to Jericho (kill everyone). Joshua 8:1-25, BT 12,000 30,760,274

God slaughters the Amorites and even chases them "along the way" as they try to escape. Joshua 10:10-11, BT 1000? 30,761,274

Joshua kills 5 kings and hangs their dead bodies on trees Joshua 10:24-26, BT 5 30,761,279

Massacre of 7 cities Joshua 10:28-42, BT 7000? 30,768,279

God delivers the Hazorites. Joshua 11:8-12, BT 1000? 30,769,279

Massacre of the Anakim Joshua 11:20-21, BT 1000? 30,770,279

God delivered Canaanites and Perizzites Judges 1:4, BT 10,000 30,780,279

Ehud delivers a message from God: a knife into the king's belly Jg.3:15-22, BT 1 30,780,280

God delivered Moabites Jg.3:28-29, BT 10,000 30,790,280

Massacre of the Canaanites Jg.4:15, BT 1000? 30,791,280

God forces Midianite soldiers to kill each other. Jg.7:2-22, 8:10, BT 120,000 30,911,280

God delivered the Ammonites to Jephthah to slaughter. Jg.11:32-33, BT 1000? 30,912,280

The Spirit of the Lord comes on Samson Jg.14:19, BT 30 30,912,310

The Spirit of the Lord comes mightily on Samson Jg.15:14-15, BT 1000 30,913,310

Samson's God-assisted act of terrorism Jg.16:27-30, BT 3000 30,916,310

"The Lord smote Benjamin" Jg.20:35-37, BT 25,100 30,941,410

More Benjamites Jg.20:44-46 25,000 30,966,410

For looking into the ark of the Lord 1 Sam.6:19, BT 50,070 31,016,480

God delivered Philistines 1 Sam.14:12, BT 20 31,016,500

God forces the Philistine soldiers to kill each other. 1 Sam.14:20, BT 1000? 31,017,500

God orders Saul to kill every Amalekite man, women, and child. 1

Sam.15:2-3, BT 1000? 31,018,500
Samuel (at God's command) hacks Agag to death 1 Sam.15:32-33, BT 1 31,018,501

God delivers the Philistines. 1 Sam.23:2-5 1000? 31,019,501

"The Lord smote Nabal." 1 Sam.25:38 1 31,019,502

God delivers the Philistines to David (again). 2 Sam.5:19, 25 1000? 31,020,502

Uzzah for trying to keep the ark from falling 2 Sam.6:6-7, 1 Chr.13:9-10 1 31,020,503

David and Bathsheba's baby boy 2 Samuel 12:14-18 1 31,020,504

God sent a three-year famine because of something Saul did. 2 Sam.21:1 5000? 31,025,504

Seven sons of Saul hung up before the Lord 2 Sam.21:6-9 7 31,025,511
From plague as punishment for David's census (men only; probably 200,000 if including women and children) 2 Sam.24:13, 1 Chr.21:7 70,000+ 31,095,511

A prophet for believing another prophet's lie 1 Kg.13:1-24 1 31,095,512

Baasha killed everyone in the house of Jeroboam "according to the saying of the Lord." 1 Kings 15:29 1000? 31,096,512
Zimri killed everyone in the house of Baasha "according to the word of the Lord." 1 Kg.16:11-12 1000? 31,097,512

Religious leaders killed in a prayer contest 1 Kg.18:22-40 450 31,097,962

God delivers the Syrians into the Israelites' hands 1 Kg.20:28-29 100,000 31,197,962

God makes a wall fall on Syrian soldiers 1 Kg.20:30 27,000 31,224,962

God sent a lion to eat a man for not killing a prophet 1 Kg.20:35-36 1 31,224,963

Ahaziah is killed for talking to the wrong god. 2 Kings 1:2-4, 17, 2 Chr.22:7-9 1 31,224,964

Burned to death by God 2 Kg.1:9-12 102 31,225,066

God sends two bears to kill children for making fun of Elisha's bald head 2 Kg.2:23-24 42 31,225,108

Trampled to death for disbelieving Elijah 2 Kg.7:17-20 1 31,225,109

God calls for a seven year famine. 2 Kg.8:1 10,000? 31,235,109

Jezebel 2 Kg.9:33-37 1 31,235,110

Jehu killed "all that remained unto Ahab in Samaria ... according to the saying of the Lord" 2 Kg.10:16-17 100? 31,235,210

God sent lions to kill "some" foreigners 2 Kg.17:25-26 3+ 31,235,213
Sleeping Assyrian soldiers 2 Kg.19:35, 2 Chr.32:21, Is.37:36 185,000 31,420,213
Saul 1 Chronicles 10:14 1 31,420,214

God delivers Israel into the hands of Judah 2 Chronicles 13:15-17 500,000 31,920,214

Jeroboam 2 Chr.13:20 1 31,920,215

"The Lord smote the Ethiopians." 2 Chr.14:9-14 1,000,000 32,920,215

God kills Jehoram by making his bowels fall out 2 Chr.21:14-19 1 32,920,216

Judean soldiers because they had forsaken the Lord 2 Chr.28:6 120,000 33,040,216

God delivered the Israelites into the hand of the Chaldeans. 2 Chr.36:16-17 1000? 33,041,216


so Cowboy can we please stop this nonsense that God never killed anyone on Earth

Cowboy ....the age of accountability is when the Man pass the seed to the woman ...this is why married people are only supposed to have sex in the missionary position and for reproduction purposes only and not lust or desire or the baby will be born of the sin of lust ...

God killed the babies in the great flood because he deem them tainted perhaps they were tainted by lust or born by those that didn't believe in him.......but either way there are no passages in the bible that states that no babies will be tossed into the lake of fire

Is a 'sin' considered a sin if the one 'committing' it has no knowledge of god?

Those are from the old testiment. In the old testiment times *before Jesus came to earth* People were jugded and punished while they were still on earth, thus resulting in people dieing for thier sins. After Jesus came and died for our sins we will not be judged until we pass away here on earth.

LoL, funches a child's time of accountability start once they learn right from wrong. It is the perents duity to teach the children of such.

and another thing that changed with Jesus coming to earth similar to what is talked about previousely.

Old testiment times it was "an eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth"
NewTestiment times*now* "turn the other cheek"

After Jesus came and died for our sins we will not be judged until we pass away here on earth.

Cowboy...if that was true then explain why God deem the children to be tainted and then proceed to drown them ...

sorry but I have already proved how Jesus didn't die for anyone sins .....as I asked you once...name anyone in recorded history after Jesus died that was without sin and could cast the first stone

and besides as you keep pointing out Jesus is still alive ...

sorry but I have already proved how Jesus didn't die for anyone sins .....as I asked you once...name anyone in recorded history after Jesus died that was without sin and could cast the first stone

and besides as you keep pointing out Jesus is still alive ...

again you are looking at it in a worldly manner. It does suck they had to suffer the feeling of being drowned and all, but they are in heaven with God and have to suffer no more pain.

so they suffered a few minutes of suffering compared to eternity of love and care.

Cowboy...see how you are trying to find ways to justify the killing of newborn babies as being good ....and in the previous posts you also tried to find ways so that you could cast the first stone and kill the adultress ...

in society your views would be evil and you would be considered as being evil.......and this may explain why you are attracted to a God that would drown babies and commit other such henious atrocities that in society will be deemed as being evil ...

but i killed no mistress. To be forgiven of your sin(s) you must first repent and truely feel remorseful for doing as such to obtain forgiveness. It's not like someone can go and kill a few people, turn around and say Father forgive me and then turn around and do it again and expect to receive forgiveness.

but i killed no mistress. To be forgiven of your sin(s) you must first repent and truely feel remorseful for doing as such to obtain forgiveness. It's not like someone can go and kill a few people, turn around and say Father forgive me and then turn around and do it again and expect to receive forgiveness.