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Topic: Why fear God?
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Wed 02/24/10 06:51 PM

and i know what you're getting at. You're going off of when Jesus told those people those without sin cast the first stone. But you have to keep in mind, Jesus had not died yet, thus resulting in Jesus hadn't died for their sins so they still sustained them.


I did keep that in mind...that is why I ask after Jesus supposedly died were there anyone that could cast the first stone ....you never did answer....and the answer would be "no" anyway....and that is why Jesus didn't die for any sins because there were never a point in time after Jesus that were people without sin

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Thu 02/25/10 08:23 AM


and i know what you're getting at. You're going off of when Jesus told those people those without sin cast the first stone. But you have to keep in mind, Jesus had not died yet, thus resulting in Jesus hadn't died for their sins so they still sustained them.


I did keep that in mind...that is why I ask after Jesus supposedly died were there anyone that could cast the first stone ....you never did answer....and the answer would be "no" anyway....and that is why Jesus didn't die for any sins because there were never a point in time after Jesus that were people without sin


yes i did answere, i said everone "SHOULD" be able to cast the first stone. Everyone that believes in God, Jesus, and believe Jesus was crucified for our sins is sinless. We have been forgiven and it has been scratched off like we had never done as such.

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Thu 02/25/10 08:46 AM



and i know what you're getting at. You're going off of when Jesus told those people those without sin cast the first stone. But you have to keep in mind, Jesus had not died yet, thus resulting in Jesus hadn't died for their sins so they still sustained them.


I did keep that in mind...that is why I ask after Jesus supposedly died were there anyone that could cast the first stone ....you never did answer....and the answer would be "no" anyway....and that is why Jesus didn't die for any sins because there were never a point in time after Jesus that were people without sin


yes i did answere, i said everone "SHOULD" be able to cast the first stone. Everyone that believes in God, Jesus, and believe Jesus was crucified for our sins is sinless. We have been forgiven and it has been scratched off like we had never done as such.


Cowboy...see how you use your belief in a God to give yourself the right to kill just because you claim to be religious...

your statement falls into the same mentality as those that strap bombs to themselves

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Thu 02/25/10 09:50 AM




and i know what you're getting at. You're going off of when Jesus told those people those without sin cast the first stone. But you have to keep in mind, Jesus had not died yet, thus resulting in Jesus hadn't died for their sins so they still sustained them.


I did keep that in mind...that is why I ask after Jesus supposedly died were there anyone that could cast the first stone ....you never did answer....and the answer would be "no" anyway....and that is why Jesus didn't die for any sins because there were never a point in time after Jesus that were people without sin


yes i did answere, i said everone "SHOULD" be able to cast the first stone. Everyone that believes in God, Jesus, and believe Jesus was crucified for our sins is sinless. We have been forgiven and it has been scratched off like we had never done as such.


Cowboy...see how you use your belief in a God to give yourself the right to kill just because you claim to be religious...

your statement falls into the same mentality as those that strap bombs to themselves


and you love to misconstrue peoples words. Christians would not stone that woman. We are not to be violent, heck we are to turn the other cheek.

I only confessed that true christians were "ABLE" to cast the stone, i in no way said they would or they should.

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Thu 02/25/10 10:24 AM

and you love to misconstrue peoples words. Christians would not stone that woman. We are not to be violent, heck we are to turn the other cheek.

I only confessed that true christians were "ABLE" to cast the stone, i in no way said they would or they should.


true Christians are those that truely follow "ALL" the teachings of Jesus without straying off the path.....and you already admitted to constantly straying off the path which in turn means you are not a true Christian

but yet your insistance that you do have the right to cast the first stone is an indication that you use religion as a means to justify your thirst for violence

as for Christians turning the other Cheek....you keep avoiding answering this question to prove if that is true or not

"will Jesus turn the other cheek at the battle of armageddon?" ...yes or no

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Thu 02/25/10 10:32 AM

and you love to misconstrue peoples words.


I'm not miscontruing your words but only using your own words in an attempt to un-miscontrue you

all you have to do is read your own posts and you will notice that all you been doing was trying to justify why drowning innocent babies and causing them to suffer is good just because you claim to be religious ...and you fail to even see the evil in your statements and in this type of mentality

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Thu 02/25/10 10:36 AM


and you love to misconstrue peoples words. Christians would not stone that woman. We are not to be violent, heck we are to turn the other cheek.

I only confessed that true christians were "ABLE" to cast the stone, i in no way said they would or they should.


true Christians are those that truely follow "ALL" the teachings of Jesus without straying off the path.....and you already admitted to constantly straying off the path which in turn means you are not a true Christian

but yet your insistance that you do have the right to cast the first stone is an indication that you use religion as a means to justify your thirst for violence

as for Christians turning the other Cheek....you keep avoiding answering this question to prove if that is true or not

"will Jesus turn the other cheek at the battle of armageddon?" ...yes or no


without straying off the path? lol no one acheives that. That is why God sent his only begotten son. So that we can learn from our mistakes and try not to do the same things. Cause if no one strayed off the path from time to time unintentionally or intentionally for that matter Jesus would have been crucified in vein, his crusification would have been pointless.

I do not understand your commment about armageddon. Armageddon is the end of the world. What would their be turning the cheek of?

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Thu 02/25/10 12:24 PM

without straying off the path? lol no one acheives that.


see how you just accused and judged that all Christians stray off the path ..so do this means that you believe that there is not one Christian that loves Jesus enough to stay on the path and follow all his teachings

but anyway I asked you do you follow all the teachings of Jesus ...I guess the answer is no which means you are still a sinner

Cowboy...see how you are not even a True Christians but yet you find reasons to cast the first stone and drown innocent newborn babies as being good ...do you now see how you could be considered as being evil and using religion as a haven to practice and promote evil

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Thu 02/25/10 12:30 PM

I do not understand your commment about armageddon. Armageddon is the end of the world. What would their be turning the cheek of?


Cowboy....that's because Armageddon isn't the end of the world...it is supposedly the battle between Jesus and the Antichrist ...dude you are going to have to start reading the bible if you are going to preach about it

but anyway...the question is since Jesus taught to turn the other cheek...then will Jesus use his "Free Will" to turn the other cheek and not fight in the battle of Armageddon ...

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Thu 02/25/10 03:37 PM


without straying off the path? lol no one acheives that.


see how you just accused and judged that all Christians stray off the path ..so do this means that you believe that there is not one Christian that loves Jesus enough to stay on the path and follow all his teachings

but anyway I asked you do you follow all the teachings of Jesus ...I guess the answer is no which means you are still a sinner

Cowboy...see how you are not even a True Christians but yet you find reasons to cast the first stone and drown innocent newborn babies as being good ...do you now see how you could be considered as being evil and using religion as a haven to practice and promote evil


No it is because the bibles tells us we ALL fall short of the glory of God.

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Thu 02/25/10 03:39 PM


I do not understand your commment about armageddon. Armageddon is the end of the world. What would their be turning the cheek of?


Cowboy....that's because Armageddon isn't the end of the world...it is supposedly the battle between Jesus and the Antichrist ...dude you are going to have to start reading the bible if you are going to preach about it

but anyway...the question is since Jesus taught to turn the other cheek...then will Jesus use his "Free Will" to turn the other cheek and not fight in the battle of Armageddon ...


Armageddon is the end of the world. It is when Jesus will take his follows dead and alive out of this world with him. Only the lost will stay and be in armageddon, their last chance to proove themselves worthy of being in heaven.

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Thu 02/25/10 04:09 PM



I do not understand your commment about armageddon. Armageddon is the end of the world. What would their be turning the cheek of?


Cowboy....that's because Armageddon isn't the end of the world...it is supposedly the battle between Jesus and the Antichrist ...dude you are going to have to start reading the bible if you are going to preach about it

but anyway...the question is since Jesus taught to turn the other cheek...then will Jesus use his "Free Will" to turn the other cheek and not fight in the battle of Armageddon ...


Armageddon is the end of the world. It is when Jesus will take his follows dead and alive out of this world with him. Only the lost will stay and be in armageddon, their last chance to proove themselves worthy of being in heaven.


WOW, 'cowboy'!!!

I don't dislike you. I think you're basically a good person.

But, some of the stuff you and your friends put across as these threads as though it were 'real', and not just a belief, IS NOTHING SHORT OF SCARY!!!

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Thu 02/25/10 04:48 PM




I do not understand your commment about armageddon. Armageddon is the end of the world. What would their be turning the cheek of?


Cowboy....that's because Armageddon isn't the end of the world...it is supposedly the battle between Jesus and the Antichrist ...dude you are going to have to start reading the bible if you are going to preach about it

but anyway...the question is since Jesus taught to turn the other cheek...then will Jesus use his "Free Will" to turn the other cheek and not fight in the battle of Armageddon ...


Armageddon is the end of the world. It is when Jesus will take his follows dead and alive out of this world with him. Only the lost will stay and be in armageddon, their last chance to proove themselves worthy of being in heaven.


WOW, 'cowboy'!!!

I don't dislike you. I think you're basically a good person.

But, some of the stuff you and your friends put across as these threads as though it were 'real', and not just a belief, IS NOTHING SHORT OF SCARY!!!


Well how is it obsurd or any other when the ones like you that say it's wrong can't prove or show other wise? Armegeddon is when Jesus comes to the earth to Judge this world. After judgement, those that failed God shall go to the lake of fire and the rest of the people will remian on earth and earth will then be like it is in heaven. This is what i was infering by the end of the world, i didn't meen it literally end of the world as in like the world blows up or something.

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Thu 02/25/10 05:51 PM



I do not understand your commment about armageddon. Armageddon is the end of the world. What would their be turning the cheek of?


Cowboy....that's because Armageddon isn't the end of the world...it is supposedly the battle between Jesus and the Antichrist ...dude you are going to have to start reading the bible if you are going to preach about it

but anyway...the question is since Jesus taught to turn the other cheek...then will Jesus use his "Free Will" to turn the other cheek and not fight in the battle of Armageddon ...


Armageddon is the end of the world. It is when Jesus will take his follows dead and alive out of this world with him. Only the lost will stay and be in armageddon, their last chance to proove themselves worthy of being in heaven.


after armageddon isn't Jesus suppose to rule on the Earth for a Thousand years ....unless you consider Jesus ruling the earth the end of the world ...it may as well be..heretics once again being killed by a religious government

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Thu 02/25/10 06:04 PM



without straying off the path? lol no one acheives that.


see how you just accused and judged that all Christians stray off the path ..so do this means that you believe that there is not one Christian that loves Jesus enough to stay on the path and follow all his teachings

but anyway I asked you do you follow all the teachings of Jesus ...I guess the answer is no which means you are still a sinner

Cowboy...see how you are not even a True Christians but yet you find reasons to cast the first stone and drown innocent newborn babies as being good ...do you now see how you could be considered as being evil and using religion as a haven to practice and promote evil


No it is because the bibles tells us we ALL fall short of the glory of God.


you mean the bible talks to you....hummm that's scary ...so ...er..do you talk back to it

but anyway the question was not about the conversations that you and the bible have

it's about what would you think about a person that claim that causing newborn babies to suffer by drowning them were a good thing...would you consider such a person good or evil

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Thu 02/25/10 07:01 PM




I do not understand your commment about armageddon. Armageddon is the end of the world. What would their be turning the cheek of?


Cowboy....that's because Armageddon isn't the end of the world...it is supposedly the battle between Jesus and the Antichrist ...dude you are going to have to start reading the bible if you are going to preach about it

but anyway...the question is since Jesus taught to turn the other cheek...then will Jesus use his "Free Will" to turn the other cheek and not fight in the battle of Armageddon ...


Armageddon is the end of the world. It is when Jesus will take his follows dead and alive out of this world with him. Only the lost will stay and be in armageddon, their last chance to proove themselves worthy of being in heaven.


after armageddon isn't Jesus suppose to rule on the Earth for a Thousand years ....unless you consider Jesus ruling the earth the end of the world ...it may as well be..heretics once again being killed by a religious government


yes after armageddon Jesus will rule the earth and earth will be like in heaven.

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Thu 02/25/10 08:57 PM
Edited by voileazur on Thu 02/25/10 08:59 PM





I do not understand your commment about armageddon. Armageddon is the end of the world. What would their be turning the cheek of?


Cowboy....that's because Armageddon isn't the end of the world...it is supposedly the battle between Jesus and the Antichrist ...dude you are going to have to start reading the bible if you are going to preach about it

but anyway...the question is since Jesus taught to turn the other cheek...then will Jesus use his "Free Will" to turn the other cheek and not fight in the battle of Armageddon ...


Armageddon is the end of the world. It is when Jesus will take his follows dead and alive out of this world with him. Only the lost will stay and be in armageddon, their last chance to proove themselves worthy of being in heaven.


WOW, 'cowboy'!!!

I don't dislike you. I think you're basically a good person.

But, some of the stuff you and your friends put across as these threads as though it were 'real', and not just a belief, IS NOTHING SHORT OF SCARY!!!


Well how is it obsurd or any other when the ones like you that say it's wrong can't prove or show other wise? Armegeddon is when Jesus comes to the earth to Judge this world. After judgement, those that failed God shall go to the lake of fire and the rest of the people will remian on earth and earth will then be like it is in heaven. This is what i was infering by the end of the world, i didn't meen it literally end of the world as in like the world blows up or something.


OK 'cowboy',

'ABSURD' (I think is the word we're looking for here), ABSURD!!!

Here is what's absurd:
... pulling this fable out of a 2 000 year old book of assembled fables,
... presenting it as fact and truth,
... not having one single element of proof for it,
... and accusing of 'absurdity', those whom call you out of your delusional slip!!!

That my friend is what's ABSURD!!!

Unless you come up with unconditional proof for your claims, STOP REPRESENTING YOUR METAPHORS AS THOUGH THEY WERE FACTS!!!

Mixing up these simple concepts of facts and faith, is not honoring your god, it is not honoring yourself, and it sure as heck not honoring human beings as a whole.


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Fri 02/26/10 04:25 AM





I do not understand your commment about armageddon. Armageddon is the end of the world. What would their be turning the cheek of?


Cowboy....that's because Armageddon isn't the end of the world...it is supposedly the battle between Jesus and the Antichrist ...dude you are going to have to start reading the bible if you are going to preach about it

but anyway...the question is since Jesus taught to turn the other cheek...then will Jesus use his "Free Will" to turn the other cheek and not fight in the battle of Armageddon ...


Armageddon is the end of the world. It is when Jesus will take his follows dead and alive out of this world with him. Only the lost will stay and be in armageddon, their last chance to proove themselves worthy of being in heaven.


after armageddon isn't Jesus suppose to rule on the Earth for a Thousand years ....unless you consider Jesus ruling the earth the end of the world ...it may as well be..heretics once again being killed by a religious government


yes after armageddon Jesus will rule the earth and earth will be like in heaven.


Cowboy....you not knowing that armageddon is not the end of the world clearly displays why Christians should attend church, many are now making excuses why they do not have to attend church by saying things like you don't have to go to church to worship God,

it's probably because they don't want to give that 10 percent income in tithes... but as we see now some christians like yourself are spreading mis-information about Christianity

but anyway you accuse me of asking the same questions over and over and now you see why....because you do everything you can even dishing out mis-information in the attempt to not answer them...so perhaps you will answer them now

1.since you claim that prophecy can be changed and that Jesus has "Free Will" and taught to turn the other cheek ...then will Jesus use his "Free Will" to turn the other cheek in the battle of armageddon ....yes or no and why?

2.would you consider someone or something that intentionly cause a generation of innocent babies to suffer by drowning them good or evil

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Fri 02/26/10 06:42 AM
when in doubt,,, look in a book (or use a study site) from biblestudy.org


Armageddon
Revelation 16:16 speaks of a final, climactic battle at the time of the Second Coming that is centered at a place in the land of Israel called Armageddon. Because of this, the term Armageddon has come to be used as a shorthand way to label the period of conflict in which the human and spiritual forces of evil on Earth resist Christ as He returns to set up His Millennial Kingdom.

personally, I believe God is capable of all things and could change the plan, i just dont think it is likely and hope he will proceed to establish his Kingdom as is described in Revelations

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Fri 02/26/10 08:24 AM
Edited by funches on Fri 02/26/10 08:25 AM

when in doubt,,, look in a book (or use a study site) from biblestudy.org


still looking for ways not to go to church or pay them tithes...even Jesus felt the need to go to temple



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