So are u saying that because some men cheat then the "claim" to universal infedility in men is justified? That coin analogy "in real life" alludes to the fact that all men cheat but I will give you the benefit of the doubt in saying that you don't truly believe that..

6 a : a hypothesis assumed for the sake of argument or investigation.

...No offense taken.

ok.. none taken just clarification..

Makes ya' wonder if ya' ain't got yerself a two-headed coin?

perhaps cause they been treated as dogs, which indeed, make each new man met by a women accept a larger challenge, to show something better, but what man that be actually be better, does not see such as a huge opportunity to shine, as the more failure of another of the same spieces, only leave more opportunity and priviledge for what know who itself is, and no maloe can know himself, until he first know the grandest and most purpose of what a women is to teach him, not him teach her....

for the first notion of men, is that a women is but born to satisfy the whims of himself, and such is what many think and act unto about the canine spieces, but indeed, the beast be there to teach self, not self teach it, and so such things make obvious why a women would speak and act as such, for it be obvious if she think and act as such, then this be the most part of all she has been witness to thus far...

I don't believe that all men cheat, and I have some first-hand knowledge of that.

Actually, my coin reference was pointed (if a round coin can be said to be "pointed"!!) in an entirely different direction -- i.e., my many many relationships with women who inevitably decided to change me into a goat after 90 days.

Even with all that, I would not be so presumptuous as to say that every woman in the world would try to change me into a goat. Most certainly, there are some women in the world who have never even SEEN a goat. I imagine they would use a yak or some sort of ox as their domesticated animal of choice.

a quarter maybe?

i depends on how u are..and if u dont like that a woman thinks of you that way then theres no need to be with her..

Because some secretly admire the power the Master/Slave, Owned vs. Own gives them in the human/dog relationship?

It's been my experience that women who say they prefer pets over men are often Control Freaks with little sense of reciprocity.

-Kerry O.

WOW just WOW!

I happen to love men, every little thing about them.
I think their wonderful...

I thought the term was "men are pigs".

I think making the new pay for the sins of the old is wrong. But it is done by everyone I know.

The trick is to learn the lesson that is there to learn without becoming bitter about the pain we needed to learn properly.

It is a hard trick to pull off.

I don't think it's that hard of a trick "if" one is self-actualized and self-reflects a bit... Not everything is the opposite sexes fault and not all people are the same... Being careful and being bitter are two different things...

I get pizzed at the person not the gender...

Exactly, people's minds will naturally form correlations based in their own experience. I know an african american female who has had no luck with the few african american males she has dated and therefore has concluded they are all dogs( I cant relate because my experience doesnt reflect that at all). I was assaulted twice in my youth by white males and briefly concluded I was not safe around any white males(continuing to live and experience, and use my common sense got me through that time and I no longer feel that way).

Its natural for these correlations to occur, but hopefully people have the will and logic to think beyond their experience and think on a larger scale.

I agree.

But it seems lots of people cannot do what you just listed when it comes to the pain of a break up or bad relationship.

So true! I mean at first you're angry so yeah it's hard but as time goes by you need to reflect to try to identify where and why it went the way it did... If you've helped in turning it bad, it's best to know so you don't keep repeating it...

I think being married to one who ultimately betrayed the relationship and ruined my life for quite a few years qualifies me to have that opinion and those feelings.

Apparently, you disgree that women are sometimes like this? Or maybe even that I have no right to feel this way. Or that it's somehow emotionally unhealthy to _not_ lead with one's heart on one's sleeve? Or that there's something wrong about being able to spot the beginning of betrayal a mile away?

Frankly, I found a Near Death Experience to be a lot less stressful than betrayal and having to start all over again.

-Kerry O.

Any person who takes NO self responsibility in their relationships is doomed to not only repeat but hold everyone else responsible for their failures.

oh yeah.. We see that quite often...