Or, or......How about this.Until we as humans find the missing link, humans just might be alien/caveman hybrids!


Aliens do exist, we keep them on isle 2 right next to bigfoot, and the loch ness monster.Oh and don't forget about the chupacabras! They're felling left out.

http://www.spiritofthebadge.com/


This is a book about law enforcement officers and their interactions with the unexplained. I know the author personally. Very interesting stuff.

Have you listened to the interview that she gave on Coast to Coast??

I was listening the night she was on.

VERY interesting interview.

I listened to some of it.....yes very interesting.

I think many of them do report their sights observed yet their commanders fail to express that to the news,,many pilots have ducumented their sightings on record,,yet they commanders have given less reasonings to what they feel really was seen,,or heard.

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Contextual interpretation. Very important; a big part of Theology 101, as it happens. <:|

Allegorizing and imposing aliens (or whatever) on the text sure seems like fun, kids, until the flying bricks come. Guess who's throwing those bricks?

My logic is solid; you just dismissed *it* out of hand. You obviously haven't read a word I wrote; otherwise, you would be convinced!

IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE WHETHER YOU ARE MILITARY PERSONNEL OR A SCHOOL JANITOR WHO CLAIMED TO HAVE SEEN THESE THINGS. THEY ARE ANECDOTAL, CIRCUMSTANTIAL ACCOUNTS--NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE. UNLESS PHYSICAL, CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE OF THESE CREATURES' EXISTENCE IS UNCOVERED, NO ONE--I MEAN, NO ONE--SHOULD CARE WHAT THESE 'EYE WITNESSES' HAVE TO SAY ABOUT SOMETHING ALREADY SO DUBIOUS--IN FACT, PUT THOSE "TESTIMONIES" ON THE SAME SHELF AS THE SNAKE OIL.

(UNFORTUNATELY, PEOPLE WILL STILL BUY THEM BOTH.)

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Heh.

Well, the casual dismissal of an idea that has in reality no logical basis itself whatsoever is probably the best kind of idea to dismiss. Why should I have to provide a basis for disregarding something that has not even been proven to be definitive in the first place? My logic is thorough and well-thought-out, anyway; my logic is not the problem here.

The problem is what one does with the information available: You take a few odd occurrences and superimpose presuppositions over it and draw absolute conclusions about things that are not even close to being absolute--that is a problem. I look at these phenomena, think they're odd, but do not base my abstract conceptions of aliens on these events. You can theorize up the wazoo, but it's useless; better to wait for some decisive evidence, which is what I'm doing and will do until the day I die.

Let's read a little more closely, shall we? I never said aliens *couldn't* or even *don't* exist; I said we do not know they exist and therefore should not automatically conclude that they do until we have some hard evidence. Anything is possible; but that does not mean that it is actual. Understand that, otherwise, you "might" look like a raving looney!

I completely understand your position, ZP.

Don't think that I don't.

I am not saying anything is " absolute ".

The problem, as I see it, is that you dismiss these things, without having looked into the reports, or anything else, that could potentially cause you to believe that things are closer to absolutes than you currently thing. Until we have actual contact with an alien race, it wouldn't be possible to say 100% one way or the other.

If you were to look past the obvious fakes, and a little deeper into the reports that have yet to be " reasonably " explained, of which there are many, you may ( or may not ) conclude that things aren't as clear cut as you currently believe them to be.

Wouldn't logical thinking dictate that one look at all available information before taking a position?

IF,,,our Government EVER had any real PROOF to show their was other forms of life,,,,THEY WOULD NEVER WILLINGLY SHARE THAT WITH US!

So the reasons comes to mind as, wondering , WHY DO I FULLY BELIEVE THAT?

JFK, was NOT killed by one BULLET!
Yet,,our Government still ascertains HE WAS?

IF WE made it to the moon 42 years ago,,why do we NOT have a moon station THERE, instead of just a space station,HERE?

IF ROSWELL, was NO BIG DEAL, why haven't they ever let private
details of its actions or duties there be looked into? Or LOOKED AT?

WE our kept BLINDED by our own Government for fears of fear..
Or facts to show our Government betrayed our trusts in them?

SO WITH THAT,,,,I feel ANYTHING that could have been seen as proof,has been hidden....?

In a way, I agree with that, T.

However, following that same vein of thought, take a look at Area 51.

if there was actually anything there....do you really think we would actually KNOW anything about the place even being there?? lol

You can believe in something without having to witness it for yourself. Do you admit that all matter is made up of protons, neutrons, and electrons? Have you ever seen any of those?

Absence of evidence, is not evidence of absence.

It is extremely arrogant of humans to believe that we are the pinacle of intelligence and advanced life in a universe containing millions of galaxies, each containing billions of stars and billions of planets.

That's one of my favorite quotes from NASA.

Difference: Scientists *have* witnessed those things. They actually have been observed and proven to exist. So, try that bit of logic.

Yes, well; absence of evidence is also not allowance to assume whatever you want is true and imagine it factual. Very "pithy" and overly-regurgitated, and all, but also not leave to assume whatever you want, pretending assumptions and imaginings to be as concrete as things that actually *have* evidence confirming their existence.

Who believes that? I never said I did; it is POSSIBLE, just not factual. We work with what we have--so, until aliens or whatever appear, let's go with the empirical. How's that grab ya?

anybody who posts in the forums might be one of THEM of course...

What about yourself? ? ?

When president Eisenhower was shown a corpse of a dead alien, he replied:
HIDE IT AWAY AND NEVER SHOW IT TO ANYBODY!!!

Excellent point. I actually dont think eyewitness testimony is extremely reliable. I give it a fifty fifty percent chance of being accurate as people generally arent paying close enough attention to real details to later remember in detail WHO they saw.

What is evidence of absence?

Name any piece of evidence that could prove the absence of something? I will not hold my breath.

redonkulous:


"Normal temperature" -- absence of fever!!!

ABSENCE OF BREATH HOLDING!!!!

Check your glasses - they may be half full!

OMFG!!!!

Absolutely perfect!