Topic: Now here's an odd thought
JustAGuy2112's photo
Thu 02/04/10 09:58 PM

not sure what the smiley means. Tell us what u think.


That smiley would mean that she ( as well as I ) agree with you on that point...lol

paul1217's photo
Thu 02/04/10 10:04 PM
I'm not that up on computer slang. When I started using these things we saved our data on cassette tapes and DOS didn't exist. Yeah I'm Old LOL.

JustAGuy2112's photo
Thu 02/04/10 10:11 PM

I'm not that up on computer slang. When I started using these things we saved our data on cassette tapes and DOS didn't exist. Yeah I'm Old LOL.


Hey now. I remember the old TRS80 computers and the cassette tape memory...lmao

paul1217's photo
Thu 02/04/10 10:27 PM
I learned on a Pet 64. I still have an Atari 80 xl and an AT&T 8086 in my basement. I Remember Time share, RPG and Cobal. We have seen a lot of changes.

JustAGuy2112's photo
Thu 02/04/10 10:40 PM

I learned on a Pet 64. I still have an Atari 80 xl and an AT&T 8086 in my basement. I Remember Time share, RPG and Cobal. We have seen a lot of changes.


Most definitely. lol

JustAGuy2112's photo
Thu 02/04/10 10:43 PM
Ya know....it would be interesting to see the demographics on what certain age groups feel that it wouldn't seem right if we were the only intelligent form of life in the Universe.

I know that a lot of the folks around my age have found that thinking we are alone/unique is rather arrogant.


JustAGuy2112's photo
Thu 02/04/10 10:51 PM
Edited by JustAGuy2112 on Thu 02/04/10 10:52 PM


I'd still like to see what people's thoughts are about why in a court of law, eyewitness testimony is sometimes very important....

But...eyewitnesses in a UFO case, even if they are normally considered completely honest and reliable....are somehow " lessened " when reporting a UFO sighting.
Because UFO's--"outer space aliens"--aren't real. And anyone, regardless of their occupation, who claims to have seen one has officially lost their mind, negating any authority, and is currently living in a fairy land.


Here's my question to that statement.

What was it that convinced you that " outer space aliens " don't exist??

Was it because someone said so and you simply believed them?

Is it because you can't accept the fact that they might, indeed, exist??

I am not going to be trying to insult anyone here. I am genuinely curious. That means I am going to question some of the statements I may see.

paul1217's photo
Thu 02/04/10 10:54 PM
Unfortunately most people, of any age, are more concerned with their own insignificant lives than the future of the species as a whole.

JustAGuy2112's photo
Thu 02/04/10 10:55 PM
True enough. But, I think, as those people grow older, they start to think about more than just themselves.

ZPicante's photo
Fri 02/05/10 10:14 PM
Edited by ZPicante on Fri 02/05/10 10:17 PM



I'd still like to see what people's thoughts are about why in a court of law, eyewitness testimony is sometimes very important....

But...eyewitnesses in a UFO case, even if they are normally considered completely honest and reliable....are somehow " lessened " when reporting a UFO sighting.
Because UFO's--"outer space aliens"--aren't real. And anyone, regardless of their occupation, who claims to have seen one has officially lost their mind, negating any authority, and is currently living in a fairy land.


Here's my question to that statement.

What was it that convinced you that " outer space aliens " don't exist??

Was it because someone said so and you simply believed them?

Is it because you can't accept the fact that they might, indeed, exist??

I am not going to be trying to insult anyone here. I am genuinely curious. That means I am going to question some of the statements I may see.
Ha--oh, yes. I'm in denial. That's the real problem here.

In reference to this and some previous comments, let's do a little defining here, shall we? I know understanding these things is tricky, tricky stuff!

UFO (acronym):

Unidentified Flying Object.

Now, this is not so important to understand as the connotations it has come to gather, from lunatic "pioneers," mainly--it has come to imply not a mere object that is unidentified, but an object--a spaceship, actually--that is suspected to be occupied by extraterrestrials. Deny these connotations, and you are kidding yourselves.

If it *were* a mere "unidentified flying object," sans said connotations, then, well, I doubt there were would be so much hullabaloo about this. So, a bunch of people saw something "odd" and indeed "unidentifiable" in the sky. And? Who really cares? Does this affect our lives? I have no doubt that it does NOT in the slightest!

Unless anyone can prove that these unidentifiable and--I have no doubt whatsoever--logically or scientifically explicable phenomena somehow relate to aliens, no one cares--no one should care and anyone who does care is a conspiracy theorist. Period.

Unfortunately most people, of any age, are more concerned with their own insignificant lives than the future of the species as a whole.

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True enough. But, I think, as those people grow older, they start to think about more than just themselves.
Okay, are we done with the age discrimination comments now, or what? Let's give not doing that again a try. Or, keep it up, and see what happens.

Got news for ya, pallies; your lives are pretty darn insignificant, as well, no matter how "keen" you are about imagining aliens in other galaxies or whatever. Fact is, until the invention of long-term space travel or until these alleged "outer space aliens" choose to communicate with us, guess we're not ever going to be even distantly affected by their existences. So, the point of hypothesizing about them is...? Why, there is no point, is there?! ...Unless you're a great science fiction author, a reality I doubt even more than aliens' existence (at the moment--until some *real* evidence appears).

How's that grab ya, captain?

Ladylid2012's photo
Fri 02/05/10 10:16 PM

not sure what the smiley means. Tell us what u think.


It's thumbs up...I'm agreeing with you.

Ladylid2012's photo
Fri 02/05/10 10:17 PM

Unfortunately most people, of any age, are more concerned with their own insignificant lives than the future of the species as a whole.


True...it is changing. The shift in consciousness is quickening...
maybe just in the nick of time.

JustAGuy2112's photo
Fri 02/05/10 11:09 PM
If it *were* a mere "unidentified flying object," sans said connotations, then, well, I doubt there were would be so much hullabaloo about this. So, a bunch of people saw something "odd" and indeed "unidentifiable" in the sky. And? Who really cares? Does this affect our lives? I have no doubt that it does NOT in the slightest!


So...if there is something in the skies over the United States...or ANY country, that the military can't explain....that would have no effect on our lives at all??

But yet, people are terrified of terrorist attacks??

I'm pretty sure the government and military would be pretty concerned about it.

Have you actually looked into any of the reports, such as the one a O'Hare airport a couple of years ago....or Mexico City where THOUSANDS reported the object...or the mass sighting over Washington D.C.????

Or do you dismiss them out of hand because someone sez they were swamp gas or ball lightning or they were just mass hallucinations???


JustAGuy2112's photo
Fri 02/05/10 11:23 PM
One thing I would like to point out is that, at no point did I equate UFO's with Aliens.

My question mentioned nothing of aliens.

no photo
Sat 02/06/10 12:56 AM
I think it's almost impossible NOT to equate UFO's with aliens.Why don't people take eye witness accounts of "UFO's" seriously?Let's just say with a criminal trial or whatever there is always some kind of materalistic proof....like a dead body, or drugs,or a weapon, or some kind of fradulent document.Now with UFO's all we really have to go by are grainy pics, or vids.Still no materlistic proof of UFO's as of yet.I'm sure if you saw a guy kill a man, and was asked if he killed that man you would say yes.If you didn't see that same man kill a man(even though he still did)you answer wouldn't be so clear would it?

redonkulous's photo
Sat 02/06/10 10:40 AM
Take an oar, place it in the water, it looks bent.

If you said it is bent you would be wrong, if you said it looks bent you would be right. One is a conclusion based on an observation the other is just a detail of an observation.

Its the conclusions that should be doubted even if the witness is to be trusted.

JustAGuy2112's photo
Sat 02/06/10 10:46 AM

Now with UFO's all we really have to go by are grainy pics, or vids.Still no materlistic proof of UFO's as of yet.


That's not entirely accurate.

There have been " material " things reported along with some of the sightings.

Such as, someone reporting seeing a UFO on land ( technically no longer a " flying " object at that point ) and when the spot where it was seen is investigated, there are burned spots, radioactive spots, places where nothing ever grows in those spots again.

But still, people ignore those instances.

JustAGuy2112's photo
Sat 02/06/10 10:47 AM

Take an oar, place it in the water, it looks bent.

If you said it is bent you would be wrong, if you said it looks bent you would be right. One is a conclusion based on an observation the other is just a detail of an observation.

Its the conclusions that should be doubted even if the witness is to be trusted.


So what would you make of the O'Hare case where the object actually punched a hole in the cloud cover as it rose??

Dict8's photo
Sat 02/06/10 11:00 AM

I learned on a Pet 64. I still have an Atari 80 xl and an AT&T 8086 in my basement. I Remember Time share, RPG and Cobal. We have seen a lot of changes.
Remember the Timex Sinclair? God...know how many programmers got their start on THAT thing? laugh :tongue:

redonkulous's photo
Sat 02/06/10 11:20 AM


Take an oar, place it in the water, it looks bent.

If you said it is bent you would be wrong, if you said it looks bent you would be right. One is a conclusion based on an observation the other is just a detail of an observation.

Its the conclusions that should be doubted even if the witness is to be trusted.


So what would you make of the O'Hare case where the object actually punched a hole in the cloud cover as it rose??
Do you understand the point I am making?