I dont understand the argument. God didnt make a mistake in how we are made. He did give us free will to destroy our bodies and whatever was inside them though. Spinal chords can BREAK,they are not made to be unharmable. None of us are unharmable nor are our children, nor are any of our organs or any living thing. This is why we are MORTAL and not IMMORTAL.

I am not aware and would not support any law requiring a mother to choose between her life and her childs. If it is an actual question of the mothers health, I would support her decision to choose her life.

Let me TRY this agin,wink,,ok..?
If GOD never wanted a baby to leave its mother before it was truly ready to be BORN,,,,,then HE SIMPLY,,would have MADE HER TO NOT "EVER" HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT HAPPENING AS TO EVEN "TRY" TO DO "ANYTHING TO BOTHER HER OR HER BABY",,
"Would mean DEATH to the "BOTH" of THEM"!
So ANY MAN OR WOMEN WHO "MIGHT ATTEMPT" TO STOP IT FROM BEING BORN,
"COULDN'T",,,,,
The act of BIRTH,,,would be AS VITAL,,,,,as the HUMAN HEART to ANY women's LIFE,,,as well as her CHILDS LIFE...THAT SIMPLE!!
GOD HAD THIS ABILTY TO MAKE A BABY FULLY SAFE TO BE BORN, just as SURE as he MADE ALL of our other VITAL ORGANS TO "BE"...
YET,,,,,,GOD MADE A BABY'S BIRTH SUBJECT TO BE TAKEN FROM ITS PATH OF BEING BORN,,,WITHOUT CAUSING DEATH TO THE MOTHER!!!!
I DO NOT WANT TO """"""""QUESTION"""""""" HIS PATH OF THOUGHTS AS TO """"WHY"""" HE ALLOWED THEM TO HAVE THAT TO HAPPEN...
Does THIS help you to see or invision if you will,,another concept of the same side of Christ's design of our human form and HIS WILL to KNOW ALL,and our one-day REACHING this time period we now live-in where man has involved medically suffecient to perform an abortion,,,,,WHERE I BELIEVE GOD HAS ALWAYS KNOWN THIS DAY TO BE UPON US,,,EVEN AT OU FIRST BIRTH OF EVE....

What is pro-life or pro-abortion has anything to do with religion?

Is this the Twilight Zone or what?

If someone is pro-life, why would it mean automatically that he or she must be religious?

Can I be pro-life without being religious, just because I like living things?

It's amazing how people get branded left and right,

Example:

Pro-Life = must be religious
Anti-Obama = must be a republican
Anti-Bush = must be a democrat
pro-abortion = must be liberal


Is this really how you people think? Because if it is, I can only feel sorry for you and I can almost congratulate the propaganda makers out there how easily they can sway you all around, any direction they want to, because you are too naive and underducated.

Wow,,,WHY can't I SPEAK VOLUMES in small form?????



YOU,,,just explained the much needed VIEWS to express as to WHY,,I feel that MANY FOLLOW,,,,,the PATHS of the ones THEY SEE and FEEL to believe in and LEAD THEM....instead of VIEWING ANY OTHER IDEAS.


Thank You!!

Like the, who we call terrorists, to some, they are heroes.

I know no one that is "pro-abortion"...but if that's the term then I guess that makes RW baggers as "anti-Constitution". The ruling stands...killing doctors is a terrorist act and no different than Muslim extremists.

IF abortion is outlawed the rich will go to countries that perform them and the poor will suffer bad medicine, there's no easy solution except attempting prevention. Half of all unwanted teen pregnancies happen while one of the kids is drunk...why don't people shoot at Anhauser Busch instead? Many unwanted pregnancies are the result of "Abstinence Only" programs...another flawed ideological gift we were given during the Dippic years. Thumpers shot themselves in the foot on that one.

I still disagree. That God gives us the ability to come up with ways to destroy ourselves does not mean that he wished it to be so. A baby is created separate from its mother, and is why it doesnt necessarily kill the mother, but neither does killing a child after birth(kill the mother). God created us in such a way that we can change our nose, our eyes, and any number of things HE gave us without dying, but it does not mean it is blessed or approved behavior.

my brother-in-law is pro-abortion.

he believes that anyone that makes less than forty thousand should have a forced abortion, and anyone that is pregnant with more than two should, as well.

he's very forceful about this, and screamed it in my face while i was seven months pregnant.

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i am pro-life on all levels, even to being a vegetarian. i do NOT condone the murder of this man (although, i admit that i personally won't miss his presence). murder is wrong, period. what happened to him and his family was atrocious.

Sounds as if your brother could have been from the same yolk as the founder of Planned Parenthood(Margaret Sanger).

they share some characteristics, that's for certain.

he also believes that all special-needs people should be put down. guess why i don't let him near my kids, uncle or not?

how sad, assigning life or death to children,,,I hope he learns better as he ages, if not, I hope he never has kids.

Now, this is the type of person that, I think, would be a candidate for doing asuch a crime as this topic is about. People don't just come up with these ideas, they already have them before they murder but it takes something to push them right over the edge. No offense to your BIL, but I'll bet the guy was similar.

hmmmmmm take another look. Some of the ones justifying this are of "other" religions.

I'm pro-choice only because I know what it is like in certain situations

^I'm native american Indian on my mothers side, what religion would you like me to list:) as to the person who brought up women having to carry a fetus without a brainstewm full cycle, hardships are part of life, life being the key word, should we therefore automatically abort anything that isn't perfect within an ultrasound....Imagine Wilma Rudolph with her crooked leg being aborted, or maybe Obama because he was mulata, or anyone that didn't fit the all american child to be.....well they shoot horses don't they, so I guess it's ok to put everyone out of there misery before they even get to experience being miserable....

That's not what I said at all. And had you done due diligence, you'd know that anencephaly is impossible to miss on a ultrasound examination and is _invariably_ fatal.

One look at some pictures of anenecephalic fetuses should provide all the physical evidence needed to nuke your unwarranted comparisons. There are two in the Wikipedia article on the subject and more if you Google up some medical articles-- Caution: They're not for the squeamish.

Why put the mother and family through this when the prognosis is so utterly futile?


-Kerry O.

actually I posted that to show it's not a certain religion as if it HAS to be that religion. It's a common thing I see here.

You chose the right option IMO. But I didn't post it against any belief but to point out that it wasn't just one religion with these views in reply to some of the previous posts

I feel that through my living on this planet,lol,,of fifty two years and hearing, seeing, and knowing many people, many conversations....The ACT,,of an abortion by a mother,,,
WILL NEVER BE AN AGREED UPON MAJORITY ISSUE BASE FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE THE SAME OPINIONS!

I also feel that if our Society would put a BAN on ALL, and ANY abortions,,,,,,,
Two,,,to five years later....
THEN,,,,I truly believe that the NEXT phase of that controlled
GROUPS THOUGHTS,,,would be to say that ALL CONTRACEPTIVE DEVICES ALSO BE BANNED,,as "THEY" prevent the natural plantation and fertilization of a CHILD to be concieved....

IF WE AS A SOCIETY "START" TO CONTROL INDIVIDUALS ABILITIES TO ACT WITH THEIR BODIES "ONLY" WITHIN OUR THOUGHTS AS A WHOLE.

Then,,,"WHERE DOES OR WHERE WOULD WE EVER",,,,,"STOP"

I would NEVER, nor have I EVER asked or agreed for any woman to have or get an abortion...

I believe that ANY Human Life,,,IS LIFE and should be SAVED ALWAYS!

And MANY WOMEN ABUSE THE ACT OF HAVING an ABORTION, needlessly, and
with NO RESPECT for that child..

BUT,,also,,,many RAPED women would have to CARRY a child BORN THROUGH THAT ACT...

Then all the teenage girls,,killing them selves and their unborn babies, because of KNOWING they would HAVE-TO HAVE IT..


THE ONLY WAY TO TRULY CONTROL THE ACTS OF ABORTIONS BEING PERFORMED.
IS TO EDUCATE WOMEN AND MEN,,AS TO KNOW THAT THEY CAN NEVER PLAY
AS THE ACT OF SEX CARRIES ALWAYS A CHILDS POSSIBLE MAKING.

EDUCATE THEM TO FULLY USE ALL AND ANY CONTRACEPTIVES,,IF HAVING SEX.

HAVE A PRIVATE SHELTER THAT WILL '''PAY'''THE MOTHER TO HAVE HER CHILD,,AS TO GIVE-IT-UP AT ITS BIRTH FOR ADOPTION,,AND HAVE THESE SHELTERS WORLD-WIDE.

DEMAND A WOMEN TO BE CHARGED IN A COURT OF LAW IF SHE HAS HAD ONE ABORTION ALREADY PERFORMED, UPON HER SECOND ATTEMPT TO HAVE ONE DONE
WOULD BE IN VIOLATION OF THAT LAW TO HAVE DONE, UNLESS JUSTIFIABLE REASONS OR CONDITIONS OVER-RULED THAT..
YES,,THATS A LOT OF RECORD KEEPING BUT ITS LIKE ALL THE OTHER LAWS OF THIS LAND THAT WE ALL MUST FACE ITS GUIDELINES.
THEN WE ARE CONTROLING HER ACT OF MURDER,YET NOT PUNISHING ALL,AND EVERY FIRST ACT OF AN ABORTION...LET A COURT AND A JUDGE RULE EACH CASE,,,,BY EACH CASE....'''THATS'''MORE FARE AS TO A WOMEN'S INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS AS A HUMAN BEING.

YET,,I am a realist,,and IF the control of the rights of each of us here,,EVER BECOMES an issue that WE DO NOT HAVE FULL RIGHTS OF OUR INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS TO DO WITH OUR OWN BODIES,,WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
THEN WE WILL BE ONLY ALIVE, LIVING AS ROBOTIC CONTROLLED BEHAVIORAL
TEST SUBJECTS FOR THAT CONTROLLING GROUPS DESIRES TO HAVE US BE.

SOrry,,my caps were locked,,
just my thoughts on this subject....

this man. deserved to be execute. he killed a doctor. on some nutcase believe that and unborn is a human.until it comes out. to me its not a human. he deserved to die.

nutcase believe that and unborn is a human.until it comes out. to me its not a human. he deserved to die.

^I imagine a lot of things are distorted toyou as well.....look up the word organism...." a living thing" living being the key word there. , but I get your point, there have been some people born that aren't human, I think they call it Brain dead

Why put the mother and family through this when the prognosis is so utterly futile?

^because every birth is a chance regardless, life is not to be selective if it is, then why not just clone everyone....

oh i see . cause my views are distorted. cause i don't believe like you. or might be called conservative nutcase . sickness. don't you think.