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Topic: Sometimes the law forces you to live illegal...
msharmony's photo
Fri 01/29/10 06:42 AM

Laws dont make you live illegally, people make themselves live illegally by the choices they make.


Guns dont kill people, people kill people by the choices they make.

We may not agree with all the laws, but they are there to protect others.



This is true, but without guns people couldnt SHOOT people. Though they would always find other ways to kill.

Updawg's photo
Fri 01/29/10 06:48 AM


Laws dont make you live illegally, people make themselves live illegally by the choices they make.


Guns dont kill people, people kill people by the choices they make.

We may not agree with all the laws, but they are there to protect others.



This is true, but without guns people couldnt SHOOT people. Though they would always find other ways to kill.

Thats right and I would have to stab them when they came into my house after I hit them with a baseball bat

msharmony's photo
Fri 01/29/10 06:52 AM



Laws dont make you live illegally, people make themselves live illegally by the choices they make.


Guns dont kill people, people kill people by the choices they make.

We may not agree with all the laws, but they are there to protect others.



This is true, but without guns people couldnt SHOOT people. Though they would always find other ways to kill.

Thats right and I would have to stab them when they came into my house after I hit them with a baseball bat



lol, exactly, but I think that taking a life should require a bit of effort anyway,,,,

Updawg's photo
Fri 01/29/10 06:56 AM
Thats why I deer hunt with my bow and arrow.

franshade's photo
Fri 01/29/10 07:54 AM


Laws dont make you live illegally, people make themselves live illegally by the choices they make.


Guns dont kill people, people kill people by the choices they make.

We may not agree with all the laws, but they are there to protect others.



This is true, but without guns people couldnt SHOOT people. Though they would always find other ways to kill.


Of course they could, people shoot their mouths off daily, they shoot the sh__t, shoot arrows, shoot the breeze :wink:

yes where there is a will to kill someone, a way will be found.

Updawg's photo
Fri 01/29/10 08:27 AM

Flarob's photo
Fri 01/29/10 08:31 AM
My friend, you need to get a lawyer who can streighten your whole D/L mess out between Fl and Pa. Please dont drive without a valid DL. You say you are insured but I dont know how, as they require a valid DL to insure you. I'm afraid that if you should hit something or someone - a judge will just lock you away.

oldsage's photo
Fri 01/29/10 08:43 AM
A person driving WITHOUT a VALID license, is breaking the law & thus any INSURANCE Policy is VOID. NO insurance policy is vaild in the commission of a crime. Get shoot robbing a bank, healty & life are void.

"Don't do the crime, if you can't do the TIME"

Maybe this whole process should have been started earlier?

Duffy's photo
Fri 01/29/10 01:02 PM
this is how u get away driving W/O license and still have insurance, one or the other expires. And one is valid the other is not.
l/2 the drivers in WA state drive illegally it is said. now just whqt r u going to do about it.
about 2 camels hitting head on, stay off those stinking spitting things, and problem is solved.
he needs an attorney and pro bono, but he won't do it.
dr reports what he thinkpitchfork s. DMV acts on it.

and furthermore, it goes u do the crime, and u do the time.

Duffy's photo
Fri 01/29/10 01:19 PM
um so i am wondering while i was ranting how that devil got in there?

CatsLoveMe's photo
Fri 01/29/10 03:06 PM
For those of you, playing the role of Mom & Dad, consider for a moment what Intrepid is going through right now? Is it that impossible to put yourself in his shoes and maybe try to be an advocate? I know it's hard, but he's gotten a bad break from the system, maybe you could try to be a little more compassionate, and less preachy.

Shasta1's photo
Fri 01/29/10 07:59 PM
His dad is a lawyer, and he's 30! years old, why isn't dad or fellow lawyer involved instead of just saying "they're wrong". I just see alot of things missing from his story esp the part of why he has to have the dual control permit. He never answerd my statement of it was because he failed the drivers test 2x. If it was because of his disabilty theres a concern, but there was no mention of the reason for it because of a person having a disabilty. Also someone made a point of why this wasn't taken care of sooner? JMO.

DrRob's photo
Fri 01/29/10 08:53 PM

For those of you, playing the role of Mom & Dad, consider for a moment what Intrepid is going through right now? Is it that impossible to put yourself in his shoes and maybe try to be an advocate? I know it's hard, but he's gotten a bad break from the system, maybe you could try to be a little more compassionate, and less preachy.


compassionate?? sympathy??
go back n read what he says,look at the Pattern.

At the time I had a valid PA drivers license and an expired Florida DL. For no other reason than my injury my license was suspended. In order to get it back I had to pay $300 to a driving program and jump through 50 hoops to get all these papers signed as well as spend $1100 to get a speeding ticket in N.C. from 2004 resolved.


for no other reason?? how about them tickets he didnt bother paying from 2004?
think That might have had something to do with it?
he doesnt pay his tickets And whyd he need a driving program??

So two weeks from now I'm moving from PA to southern CA. I have a brand new Mustang conv. that I paid $12,000 to have altered so I can drive it.


12,000 bucks for hand controls on a Mustang..yeah right.
maybe 500 bucks or so at most..i just went on Ebay,and googled it too.
hand controls cost 700 new...used sets are 200-300 bucks.
so if you wish to believe a bunch of malarky,thats your perogative.

Oh yeah, Florida will send something to PA but I talked to the DMV in Florida where I got my DL. I have to have that sent from the main office in Tallahassee and it's always busy and I'm moving so I don't have time for all that. It may be a choice to drive without a license but considering the money I've spent on my car and to have it modified and the alternative, I'm going to drive.


see,he doesnt Care what we say,hes Going to drive anyways no matter what...he doesnt have Time to Fix his d/l ???

so this whole thread was just for him to vent...he didnt want our advice.
hes been Back,and Not replied here..
why do you think that is?

maybe its because everyone here except you is pretty much horrified at the thought of this guy getting into an accident.

what if,he hit Your mother,and Killed her?? what then?

sorry Catsloveme,but No..i have No compassion for this guy.
not now,not ever.
and if you had seen what he said To You,Before the mods removed it,i Highly doubt youd be waving a banner for this guy.

then After they removed it,hes stroking You.
you are awesome..blah blah blah.
then he goes Right back on the offensive with Melody too.

no offense intended,but im having a hard time understanding why you would defend a person who acts like this.

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