yes she could have. But who would want to? A prophecy is only a foreseen action. As in i forsee that you'll post something after this post sometime trying to deny the lord again. Oh wow, look at that i just took away your free will. You'll also go to the bathroom sometime today, eat something, you'll talk to someone. Holy crap i'm destroying your free will all the way around.

you obviousely don't understand what a prophecy is. A prophecy is only a forseen action. DOES NOT meen the one who had the prophecy CAUSED it to happen, only forseen it coming just as what i did in my last post. And on the thing about marry having jesus, she could have very well freaked out about it and did something like a self abortion, she could have ate very little, had someone hit her in the stomach over and over, she could have done many things to kill Jesus.

but it wasn't a prophecy.....the angel told Mary that she was favored by God and would have a Child by him not by a stranger ....a God intervention takes away "Free Will"

also it's nice to know that you are willing to be inseminated by someone that claim to be God and have his baby

the angel delivered a message not a prophecy

the angel was a messenger not a prophet

was still a prophecy at that time of the angel coming to tell her. Nottice "would have a Child by him".... nottice the would have, that claims in the future thus resulting in a prophecy. And also knowtice she was willing to have the child, so therefor not taking her free will away she wasn't FORCED to do anything she DIDN'T want to do.

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Those questions are perfect waste of time and energy.

God (whichever one’s personal interpretation of the concept) exists ‘ON FAITH’ for those whom have faith in its existence, and doesn’t for those whom do not have faith in its existence. End of subject. End of question.

To raise the question is a waste of time. Those whom believe will not change their mind, just as those whom do not believe. Any discussion of faith or belief can only makes sense with 'like faith' and beliefs participants, or interested candidates.

Anything else is proselytizing.

To argue bible verses with people whom do not believe in god is insane. And to argue bible verses as crazy for one whom doesn't believe in any of it, is seriously suspect!!!

The whole confusion in this ‘GENERAL religion CHAT’ forum, boils down to insisting on ‘SELLING FAITH AND BELIEFS’, and countering it for its inconsistencies.

It also is a royal waste of time.

Obviously, I ask no one to take my version of it for ‘THE TRUTH’, it would be a complete contradiction with the very point I am proposing here.

I will however, share with you a personal story from my early college years.

I was interested in philosophy, ethics, and history of religions, like a whole bunch of others at the tiem, and among other courses, I had enrolled in a 'Christian Ethics' class.

The professor was an uncompromising fundamentalist guy - Southern Baptist, born-again Christian, Creationist, all that stuff - but he was pretty open-minded and tolerant, too. I didn't know much about chrisitian fundamentalism, much less about Southern Baptists or 'born-again' christians in those days, so I figured they all were a pretty good buch of open minded and tolerant people. Boy was I in for a rude awaking!!!

For those whom know me from these blogs, it will probably answer this ‘fascination’ I have for Christian fundamentalism and their fundamentalist militants.

I was then, as today a form of non-theist. The existent or non-existence of deity ‘FOR REAL’ is an absolute 'non-debatable' topic, and thus a perfect discussion waste of time.
I figured as I do now, if one believes, great! No need to talk about it. Get on with your life.

Back to my professor. Given my non religious attributes, you would think the two of us would've been at each other's throats the entire semester!

Well, nothing could have been further from the truth.

He only ever attacked something I said when it was illogical or inconsistent with MY stated beliefs. He never, ever called, or indirectly inferred that I or my beliefs were EVIL, though he would make it readily known that he disagreed with me.

At one point, during an informal after-class discussion, this topic came up,

"A Christian has no right to judge by the canon anyone who is outside the canon."

My christian fundamentalist professor had this to say (which I have still in my notebook of the time):

‘… It's basically an extension of the "judge not lest thee be judged thyself" principle, but a little refined.
It basically means one Christian can attack another for being un-Christian or for not following Christian principles, but he cannot attack a non-Christian for the same because that person is not bound by Christian principles.

Its a simple idea, but its amazing how little it is known or followed.

P.S. : if all fundamentalists and radical christians adopted the attitude and rigour of my ex ‘christian ethics’ professor, I would have no qualms with ‘christian fundamentalists’.

Cowboy...God sent the angel to tell her that she is going to have his baby ...that's not a prophecy that's a command and God's getting one of his Virgin children pregnant is clearly not "Free WIll" ...it's incest