apparently I am a dumb @zz...

The worse... hmmm... I would have to say B... violence trumps cheating... (physical vs. emotional -- emotional is painful but often won't kill or mame you)...

$.02

IM gonna clarify, that as a Christian, I should see them all the same. Even C, who has not directly harmed or helped anyone, has sinned in his life. It is important to me not to rank 'wrong' just to aknowledge it, try to avoid it, and forgive it when it occurs.

my err was in thinking of the numbers,,someone who saved or touched THOUSANDS Of lives in their lifetime to me,,, is worthy of an appreciation for their contribution for the sake of others,, even if they at some point in their life make bad judgment calls. In truth though,, we will all make poor judgment calls and none is better or worse than the other,, spiritually.

Just a personal thing, I've been through emotional abuse and I came out swinging. I'm not here to argue it, that is simply my opinion on the matter like it or not.

To answer Harmony's reply, good for you...I'd rather not hurt anyone.

How can they all be the same if person C has not harmed anyone, but A and B have?

Because person C has also not made the effort to help anyone. And for reasons of faith, the fact that he can and has committed sin without having to hurt someone else directly makes him no better or worse than the others. IT is worldly priorities that place the flesh at a higher priority than the spirit(emotions) so much that they completely disregard and tear down people for certain 'wrongs' and not others.

For me, we all have to be equal, regardless of the sin,,in order that forgiveness would mean anything. If someone spent everyday of their life, minus one saving lives but another just spent their life taking care of self,,most would see the former person as pretty special,,but let that first person err ONE day out of his life and because of how we RANK peoples mistakes,, everything special they have done for others suddenly means nothing. That is not the philosophy I choose to follow.

Although obviously passing judgment of others is.

passing judgment of actions and words are,,, not people, no

I have read several topics on this site. All of them had to do with judging people in some way.

Sometimes before we judge others we need to look deeper into ourselves.

I do judge words and actions,, some will translate that into judging people, but I disagree.

I have to have judgment, its part of being human and making good decisions,,the judgment to know what good and bad and right and wrong are. My aknowledgement of a bad decision by someone else,, isnt a judgment of them, for I do not know them well enough to judge them(only God can), I can only judge the words they spoke or the actions they took,, just as I would judge those words and actions had I spoke or done them.


I think the very philosophy that we are all equal, by default, means I do not pass judgement on others on a personal level.

Words and actions make up what we are. What else is there but a persons words and the actions he follows them up with?

I disagree, no one , two , or even three actions or words make up our spirit. WE are constantly learning, changing and growing. It is my belief that the totality of who we are is only known by HE who created us.

Then only he should pass judgment, for in the end he is the one the judges will answer to.

YEs, only he should pass judgment on our souls,

WE however have the conscienceand logic to make JUDGEMENTS about actions and words so that we can try to find the right path to him.

There are many roads that lead to the same destination. To judge someone on the path they choose is arrogance in the supreme.

I agree, because I dont believe any of us know someone elses path.


But we do have the necessary ability to judge right from wrong, good from bad,, hot from cold,, etc,,,,, our minds were built to make such judgements when choosing our own actions and words....

much like the distinction between legal and illegal, there is a distinction we are able and need to make between right and wrong and good and bad,, that requires judgment.

I agree, because I dont believe any of us know someone elses path.


But we do have the necessary ability to judge right from wrong, good from bad,, hot from cold,, etc,,,,, our minds were built to make such judgements when choosing our own actions and words....

much like the distinction between legal and illegal, there is a distinction we are able and need to make between right and wrong and good and bad,, that requires judgment.

Very well said!

I agree, which further explains my answer that A B and C were the same, none better or worse than the other.

a and b are exactly the same person and c has committed no crimes so c would be it.

C actually did contribute to the greater good because he/she did not participate in the bad behavior of the first two.

There are no victims of c running around in the world, a and b cannot say the same.

If you believe just existing contributes to the greater good, than that would be true of all three people as well. The difference being in addition to JUST existing to contribute, A and B actually did works to contribute as well, to others.

I think they are all the same, but the different points of view are interesting.