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Topic: I have a question
morgannicole's photo
Tue 01/05/10 10:09 PM
Do you think that religious people should date non-religious?
I've fallen head over heels for this one guy,
and I found out today that he and I have totally different beliefs.

I don't want to see this as a "challenge" and I don't want to falter in my beliefs. I just know that he makes me laugh so much more than I can remember in the past few months, and he's brightened up my life.

Down2earthdebbie's photo
Tue 01/05/10 10:16 PM
I would continue at least a friendshup & talk about it with him & just see where things go! flowerforyou

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 01/05/10 10:16 PM
http://www.gotquestions.org/date-marry-unbeliever.html

For a Christian, dating a non-Christian is unwise, and marrying one is not an option. Second Corinthians 6:14 (KJV) tells us not to be “unequally yoked” with an unbeliever. The imagery is of two incompatible oxen sharing the same yoke. Instead of working together to pull the load, they would be working against each other. While this passage does not specifically mention marriage, it definitely has implications for marriage. The passage goes on to say that there is no harmony between Christ and Belial (Satan). There can be no spiritual harmony in a marriage between a Christian and a non-Christian. Paul goes on to remind believers that they are the dwelling place of the Holy Spirit, who inhabits their hearts at salvation (2 Corinthians 6:15-17). Because of that, they are to be separate from the world—in the world, but not of the world—and nowhere is that more important than in life’s most intimate relationship—marriage.

The Bible also says, “Do not be misled: ‘Bad company corrupts good character’ (1 Corinthians 15:33). Having any kind of intimate relationship with an unbeliever can quickly turn into something that is a hindrance to your walk with Christ. We are called to evangelize the lost, not be intimate with them. There is nothing wrong with building quality friendships with unbelievers, but that is as far as it should go. If you were dating an unbeliever, what would honestly be your priority, romance or winning a soul for Christ? If you were married to an unbeliever, how would the two of you cultivate a spiritual intimacy in your marriage? How could a quality marriage be built and maintained if you disagree on the most crucial issue in the universe—the Lord Jesus Christ?

morgannicole's photo
Tue 01/05/10 10:32 PM

http://www.gotquestions.org/date-marry-unbeliever.html

For a Christian, dating a non-Christian is unwise, and marrying one is not an option. Second Corinthians 6:14 (KJV) tells us not to be “unequally yoked” with an unbeliever. The imagery is of two incompatible oxen sharing the same yoke. Instead of working together to pull the load, they would be working against each other. While this passage does not specifically mention marriage, it definitely has implications for marriage. The passage goes on to say that there is no harmony between Christ and Belial (Satan). There can be no spiritual harmony in a marriage between a Christian and a non-Christian. Paul goes on to remind believers that they are the dwelling place of the Holy Spirit, who inhabits their hearts at salvation (2 Corinthians 6:15-17). Because of that, they are to be separate from the world—in the world, but not of the world—and nowhere is that more important than in life’s most intimate relationship—marriage.

The Bible also says, “Do not be misled: ‘Bad company corrupts good character’ (1 Corinthians 15:33). Having any kind of intimate relationship with an unbeliever can quickly turn into something that is a hindrance to your walk with Christ. We are called to evangelize the lost, not be intimate with them. There is nothing wrong with building quality friendships with unbelievers, but that is as far as it should go. If you were dating an unbeliever, what would honestly be your priority, romance or winning a soul for Christ? If you were married to an unbeliever, how would the two of you cultivate a spiritual intimacy in your marriage? How could a quality marriage be built and maintained if you disagree on the most crucial issue in the universe—the Lord Jesus Christ?

Thank you.
Yeah, I know. I agree with that. I want to pursue at least a friendship with him, but we dated before I knew of his beliefs.

I asked him once what church he goes to, and he just answered "I haven't been to church in a long time", but that's not always an indicator. Since I have moved I haven't found a church yet, but I'm still looking.

ughh. I feel kind of like it's a challenge, but Idk if it's a good one or a bad one. if that makes sense. I don't want to risk it.

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 01/05/10 10:34 PM
it's not easy at times. flowerforyou

morgannicole's photo
Tue 01/05/10 10:46 PM
I know.. I don't want to lose my beliefs because of someone else you know? And it sucks because I already care for him. gahhh.

Oh well, thanks for the help. (: flowerforyou

Totage's photo
Tue 01/05/10 11:07 PM

Do you think that religious people should date non-religious?
I've fallen head over heels for this one guy,
and I found out today that he and I have totally different beliefs.

I don't want to see this as a "challenge" and I don't want to falter in my beliefs. I just know that he makes me laugh so much more than I can remember in the past few months, and he's brightened up my life.


I think this is more of a personal decision. How important is your religion in your life? How important is your relationship with God? Only you know the answer. Listen to your heart, NOT your feelings, but your heart. flowerforyou

Pray about the situation, listen to God and follow your heart, with the guidance of God. flowerforyou

msharmony's photo
Tue 01/05/10 11:45 PM

Do you think that religious people should date non-religious?
I've fallen head over heels for this one guy,
and I found out today that he and I have totally different beliefs.

I don't want to see this as a "challenge" and I don't want to falter in my beliefs. I just know that he makes me laugh so much more than I can remember in the past few months, and he's brightened up my life.



I think you shouldnt lose the friendship. From my experience in my forty years,, I wouldnt become serious with someone I ws 'unequally yoked' with. Depending upon what your faith is and how much of a priority it has in your life. I know God is priority in my life and will be in my childs so I dont want an influence in her life that contradicts that. You seem young and probably without kids though so you have to go with your heart and whats a priority to YOU.

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Wed 01/06/10 09:32 PM

Do you think that religious people should date non-religious?
I've fallen head over heels for this one guy,
and I found out today that he and I have totally different beliefs.

I don't want to see this as a "challenge" and I don't want to falter in my beliefs. I just know that he makes me laugh so much more than I can remember in the past few months, and he's brightened up my life.



Thier are over 1000 denominations out thier that claim thier way is right.

So how do you decide which for of religious belief you believe in.


So does that mean a baptists can not marry some one from the Assembly of G-d?



Or all the other sects?


We would be foolish to believe that you can not marry someone if they do not hinder your belief.

Paul spoke of those who had married then become a believer. He says they should stay together if thier spouce does not hinder thier walk.

He says the believing spouce covers the unbelieving spouce or else thier children would be unclean.


We can take the scriptures about being unequally yoked to extremes.


We are not to eat with a unbeliever but yet was not Yahshua accussed of eating with unbelievers?

Yes and he said he came to the lost sheep of Israel.

What is this lost sheep? Who really knows.

If Yahshua is our example then how many things did he do that was against what the elite religious leaders claim was against the law.


In Ezra the Priest who by law can only marry the daughter of another priest was told to take pagan wives.


Who was the one with the most faith in Israel? A pagan soldier.

Just because u say you believe means absolutely nothing and i am sure we all can attest to this being true.


Do as Yahshua did. Look at the character of who you will be joined to for a life time. Many will show the faith more than those who profess the faith.


Paul we are told many wrestle with his words to thier own destruction.

This is very true. One thing you know is Paul was struck down a person who the Apostles wanted nothing to do with who was out murdering was thier when Stephen was stoned to death yet Yahshua picks him to be his chosen vessel and the one the Apostles picked by lot Became his companion Barnabus.



So my advice is the same as many asked mback then Do you follow Paul of Saurus?


No you follow Yahshua's example and he was not unequally yoked u can bet on that so when you read Pauls writings before you think you understand them see how that interpretation lines up with the life of our Savior and who he was most comfortable with and then Paul will become more clear.

May Yahweh of Host Give You Wisdom Heading Forth in Your Life....Blessings of Shalom....Miles

msharmony's photo
Thu 01/07/10 12:48 AM
I use unequally yoked to describe my personal preference, not any specific religious law. Because God is important in my life and I wish to bring my child up in that way, I wish to have a partner who will do the same. So, for me,,I would not become involved with a non believer.

I think it is a delicate matter though that is not the same for everyone. People should be honest about what they want for their life(and kids if any are involved) and choose their partners accordingly.

itsnolongeri's photo
Mon 02/15/10 02:21 AM
Hey, i wouldnt date someone who wasnt a Christian myself, for 2 reason's the first being that Biblically it is clear we are not to marry outside the faith, second, actually i'll stick with the first, that should be enough imo, where you dating him before you got saved?

mrsheppherd's photo
Mon 02/15/10 02:35 AM
post a pic of him, im a good judge of character with guys, girls not so much... and remember : Good guys are bad guys that don't get caught! (exempting Me, Myself and some other guy)














"Why so serious? Lets get bizzy-ness!" :banana:

-Russell Peters

trubeliever's photo
Mon 02/22/10 09:01 AM
That is hard hard, when u dont believe the same there will be all sorts of problems. but if u r already invested that is something u r going to have to deal with.
I will be so much easier and u will have so much more in common if u find someone who is like u. Dont u want him to go to church with u and go to the church functions?
I have been there so i know first hand how hard it will be. Pray, pray then pray some more He will help.
blessings

RainbowTrout's photo
Mon 02/22/10 07:24 PM
Edited by RainbowTrout on Mon 02/22/10 07:31 PM
What surprises me is how many times I have agreed with msharmony. I was at a funeral with my wiccan friend. Like other friends I have made who believe or look at things differently this occasion was no different. My wiccan friend was upset at the funeral because our mutual friend had passed away. He the friend who passed away she thought should have more said about him. Instead it turned into a alter call meeting. It didn't bother me because to me it was a tribute to him and his life in my opinion. But still I held her hand why she grieved for him. She bought beautiful flowers and got some for me to take their, too. She is still a great friend and we have agreed on other matters other than religious beliefs. As far as belief goes we do believe in each other. I don't how many times she has been there for me and me for her. Its a beautiful friendship; I can't deny that. I mean look at King Soloman and the Queen of Sheba; I am just crazy about their love. Have you read the Songs of Soloman?

It is related further that the queen was awed by Solomon's great wisdom and wealth, and pronounced a blessing on Solomon's God. Solomon reciprocated with gifts and "everything she desired," whereupon the queen returned to her country. The queen apparently was quite rich, however, as she brought four and a half tons of gold with her to give to Solomon (1 Kings 10:10).

In the biblical passages which refer explicitly to the Queen of Sheba there is no hint of love or sexual attraction between Solomon and the Queen of Sheba. The two are depicted merely as fellow monarchs engaged in the affairs of state.

The Qur'an, the central religious text of Islam, never mentions the Queen of Sheba by name, although Arab sources name her Balqis or Bilqis. The Qur'anic narrative has Solomon getting reports from the Hoopoe bird about the kingdom of Saba (Sheba), ruled by a queen whose people worship the sun instead of the god Allah. Solomon sends a letter inviting her to visit him and submit fully to Allah, the one God and Lord of the Worlds according to the Islamic text. The Queen of Sheba is unsure whether to accept his invitation and does not wish to behave as a king would: 'entering a country, despoiling it and making the most honorable of its people its lowest'. So she decides to send Solomon gifts and await his response. Solomon is unimpressed by the Queen's gifts, stating that the gifts he has received from God are far greater in value. He orders the Queen's messengers to return with a warning that he will send great hosts to expel her and her people in disgrace and humility. Solomon, knowing that the Queen and her people will accept his invitation and submit fully to Allah, challenges anyone of his men to bring him her throne before she arrives. A jinn under the control of Solomon proposes that he will bring it before Solomon rises from his seat, using strength and ability. Then one who has some knowledge from the kitāb proposes to bring him the throne of Bilqis 'in the twinkling of an eye' and accomplishes that (27:40). Solomon accepts this as a bounty from God. He then asks that the throne be disguised to test the Queen when she arrives, in order to see if she accepts the throne as her own or rejects it. When the Queen arrives at his court and is shown her throne, she recognizes and accepts it as her own. However, the Queen continues to worship other Gods, so Solomon attempts to divert her from this and invites her to enter his palace. The palace is paved with smooth slabs of glass which the queen mistakes for a pool of water, and she lifts her skirts, revealing her legs. When Solomon corrects her mistake she feels humbled and realizes her wrongs and that her knowledge was lacking. She then declares her submission with Solomon to the one God of Islam (Allah).

Josephus says in his Antiquity of the Jews, book 8 chapter 6, that it was the "queen of Egypt and Ethiopia" who visited King Solomon. Also, Jesus refers to her as the "queen of the south" in Matthew 12:42. Daniel 11:5 and 8 identify the South as Egypt.

The Queen of Sheba is mentioned as the Queen of the South in Matthew 12:42 and Luke 11:31 in the New Testament, where Jesus indicates that she and the Ninevites will judge the generation of Jesus' contemporaries who rejected him.

Christian interpretations of the scriptures mentioning the Queen of Sheba in the Hebrew Bible, the Old Testament, typically have emphasized both the historical and metaphorical values in the story. The account of the Queen of Sheba is thereby interpreted by Christians as being both a metaphor and an analogy: the Queen's visit to Solomon has been compared to the metaphorical marriage of the Church to Christ where Solomon is the anointed one or the messiah and Sheba represents a Gentile population submitting to the messiah; the Queen of Sheba's chastity has also been depicted as a foreshadowing of the Virgin Mary; and the three gifts that she brought (gold, spices, and stones) have been seen as analogous to the gifts of the Magi (gold, frankincense, and myrrh). The latter is emphasized as being consistent with a passage from Isaiah 60:6; And they from Sheba shall come: they shall bring forth gold and incense; and they shall show forth the praises of the Lord.[13] This last connection is interpreted[who?] as relating to the Magi, the learned astronomers of Sheba who saw a new star and set off on a journey to find a new ruler connected to the new star, that led them to Bethlehem.


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Tue 03/09/10 09:00 AM
I'll try to keep it simple here. Ask him to go to some services with you at a church of yours or his choosing. Let him know that your spiritual bond with Jesus is unbreakable, and nothing and no one will break the bonds you have forged with Jesus. Let him know that it would mean alot to you if he would attend church service with you, and that you want to share God's love, joy, and wisdom with him. If this is too tall an order, perhaps it was not meant to be to fall in love with this man.

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Tue 03/09/10 09:22 AM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 03/09/10 09:23 AM

I'll try to keep it simple here. Ask him to go to some services with you at a church of yours or his choosing. Let him know that your spiritual bond with Jesus is unbreakable, and nothing and no one will break the bonds you have forged with Jesus. Let him know that it would mean alot to you if he would attend church service with you, and that you want to share God's love, joy, and wisdom with him. If this is too tall an order, perhaps it was not meant to be to fall in love with this man.


I agree, the courtship phase(if anyone actually COURTS anymore)will disclose compatibility. If we use this time to share honestly with each other who we are,,,it becomes clear whether we have a match or not. Whether we dont match because of differing views of God, or differing views about raising children,,,its all about what is a PRIORITY in your life and what your STANDARDS are. If someones priorities and standards align with yours, its gonna make for much fewer complications than it will dating someone who is on a different page.

Because God being real and with us is a PRIORITY and STANDARD I wont compromise on, for me, someone who is a non believe would not make a good life partner but could make an awesome friend. But my priorities are my own and its always good to be honest with oneself about their OWN priorities.

CatsLoveMe's photo
Tue 03/09/10 10:58 AM
Anyone regardless of background or religious affiliation can come to accept Christ as their Lord and Savior. His heart welcomes all souls, and if he has strayed off the path, perhaps you could lead him to follow in the light of God's righteousness again. People are saved and redeemed every day, who's to say that this man can't be? Jesus has the power to lift him up, all he needs to do is take His hand.

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Thu 03/11/10 07:35 PM

Do you think that religious people should date non-religious?
I've fallen head over heels for this one guy,
and I found out today that he and I have totally different beliefs.

I don't want to see this as a "challenge" and I don't want to falter in my beliefs. I just know that he makes me laugh so much more than I can remember in the past few months, and he's brightened up my life.



I would say no unless he has thought about becoming a Christian or would consider becoming a Christian.I dated a girl who was a Atheist for over 3 years.In the beginning it was no big deal but after things settled down and when you had your typical lover spats the more she would insult Christians and Christianity and the more she would try to convince me that I was brainwashed and stupid for believing in a made up God.Months after I broke up with her I looked back and saw how much damage over the years she had done to my faith.I didn't see it when I was with her because I was in love but I saw it after.

I have dated Christian girls and life is so much easier when you both agree on the same thing.I have no intention on dating a girl who is not Christian again even if it means I have to go years with out a GF.I know as a Christian I will only be truly happy in the long run with a girl who is also Christian as Christ comes first not second in my life.

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Fri 03/12/10 07:49 AM
Do what you want. Pray for him. Live by your standards and your values. If it is impossible to work the relationship through the different beliefs, then maintain a friendship before it gets more painful than you can handle.

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Tue 03/30/10 05:25 PM
hi. good question. i say do not push it.god is something you will need to see eye to eye on.

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